G14S5 Seasonal Update Discussion

• Aubog007 wrote on 2011-07-04 18:00

  Quote from Tropacat;499906:

  Watercannon needs a 30% Buff and Shock needs a 50% buff :L
  and i personally want more +Water dmg perfixes aswell

  
  
  
  Buffing the skill doesn't need to happen.
  
  Make the skills SLIGHTLY (and i mean like very slightly) nerfed.
  
  However make it so damage is also calculated via stamina or mana as well.
  
  Kinda like Bunshin
• Kaeporo wrote on 2011-07-04 18:14

  Quote from Tropacat;499906:

  Watercannon needs a 30% Buff and Shock needs a 50% buff :L
  and i personally want more +Water dmg perfixes aswell

  
  Rather than buffing the skills themselves, they should really improve the mastery skills. The bonuses for elemental alchemy mastery skills are pretty awful.
  
  Water Alchemy: Water Cannon damage +10%, Frozen Blast freeze duration +3 seconds, approx, Life Drain damage +2.5%
  Fire Alchemy: Flame Burst/Heat Buster damage +10%, Shock Damage +5%, Life Drain damage +2.5%
  Clay Alchemy: Barrier Spikes HP +10%, Summon Golem status +10%, Sand Burst damage +10%, Life Drain damage +2.5%
  Wind Alchemy: Wind Blast damage/range +10%, Shock Damage +5%, Frozen Blast freeze duration +3 seconds, approx, Life Drain damage +2.5%
  
  Those are some pretty weak buffs.
  
  Though I like the stat dependent alchemy idea, it would be difficult to implement.
• ikotomi wrote on 2011-07-04 18:26

  Quote from sakraycore;499869:

  But when it comes down to it, ranged is still much safer if you're playing safely with it and not going all gung ho with the 0 shot crash shot.
  
  AR is perpetual stun fest for a single enemy and magnum spam is ridiculously safe with a FB cover pet. There isn't such a thing for melee.

  
  
  Range is safer when you can use it to prevent multi aggro on you. Once you've multi'd though, there are many situations where melee is safer, and vice versa. Often times, melee will end up being the safer option just because you kill things on you faster, and a windmill finish will lock the aggro giving you time to breathe.
  
  1 on 1, I'd say that melee is almost always safer if the monsters don't have passive defenses.
• Mentosftw wrote on 2011-07-04 19:08
  Melee needs more aoe skills, most of what melee does is 1 v 1 combat which was fine one year ago.
• Kenero wrote on 2011-07-04 21:41
  I've always imagine melee to be similar to vindictus.
  
  Click the mouse to swing your sword, making weapon attack speed and number more caring. You can also attack when there's no monster nearby, so you can time your last hit or to continue a combo and make stun effective. You can make 2h even more effective since you can then abuse the larger splash radius of the combo.
  
  Load the skill using the usual keys, but to execute it, you must be near a target and then right click to execute it. So you can have, for say, Smash loaded, but still use normal attack until you right click the mouse to excute the skill on the nearest monster, making queue skills easier.
  
  For magic, you can manually aim where you want to shoot it, or for alchemy, you can use flame burst, without a target, so you can make some neat strategies with it.
  
  It would also justify the WASD movement. You can choose to play traditional or this new style.
  
  Of course to do that, you need a whole system revamp, which to say, it's impossible as of now but it's fun to dream.
• TropicalCat wrote on 2011-07-04 22:24

  Quote from Kaeporo;499927:

  Rather than buffing the skills themselves, they should really improve the mastery skills. The bonuses for elemental alchemy mastery skills are pretty awful.
  
  Water Alchemy: Water Cannon damage +10%, Frozen Blast freeze duration +3 seconds, approx, Life Drain damage +2.5%
  Fire Alchemy: Flame Burst/Heat Buster damage +10%, Shock Damage +5%, Life Drain damage +2.5%
  Clay Alchemy: Barrier Spikes HP +10%, Summon Golem status +10%, Sand Burst damage +10%, Life Drain damage +2.5%
  Wind Alchemy: Wind Blast damage/range +10%, Shock Damage +5%, Frozen Blast freeze duration +3 seconds, approx, Life Drain damage +2.5%
  
  Those are some pretty weak buffs.
  
  Though I like the stat dependent alchemy idea, it would be difficult to implement.

  
  
  Shield be 25% instead of 10% :l
• Ryoko wrote on 2011-07-04 23:08

  Quote from Kenero;500110:

  I've always imagine melee to be similar to vindictus.
  
  Click the mouse to swing your sword, making weapon attack speed and number more caring. You can also attack when there's no monster nearby, so you can time your last hit or to continue a combo and make stun effective.

  
  
  I can be able to imagine someone just swinging their sword in front of them wildly and never be able to get hit ever again. Before their mouse breaks. xD
• Azareel wrote on 2011-07-04 23:55

  Quote from Xemnas;497357:

  dragon slasher of the gods
  
  armor of the gods
  
  piano of shakespeare

  
  
  Speaking of...
  Instrument rebalance pl0x, DevCAT.
  
  Seriously, the wind instruments are synthesized horribly. There's even a synthesized flute in Cobh's music that sounds actually similar to an actual flute. >:l
  
  Also, LF>Violin, Piano, and Music Box.
• Fabian wrote on 2011-07-05 01:15

  Quote from Mentosftw;499963:

  Melee needs more aoe skills, most of what melee does is 1 v 1 combat which was fine one year ago.

  
  
  I'm more in favor of something that reduces risk of dying. Melee users have to get near a monster in order to kill it, thus drawing the attention of the other 5+ monsters. If they have more than, lets say, 2,000 hp, you are pretty much dead, or going to play dead for a while. Meanwhile Rangers can safely snipe from afar, alchemist can use Golems, flame burst, water cannon, and Mages can use their magic from a distance.
  
  I think a skill that prevents other enemies from noticing you while you are fighting 1v1 would be quite useful. This would be abused badly though (mainly by people other than melee).
  
  So yeah, us melee users need something to survive more. Windmill might be epic, but against monsters that can survive it (as in adv/hard missions and adv/hm dungeons) it is useless (if you are fighting multiaggro).
• Osayidan wrote on 2011-07-05 02:30
  If potions stack to 20 can I auto-make 20 at a time in potion making?
  /lazy
• Iyasenu wrote on 2011-07-05 02:42

  Quote from Osayidan;500410:

  If potions stack to 20 can I auto-make 20 at a time in potion making?
  /lazy

  
  
  Heh.
  
  Actually this would make making wound potions fit perfectly in the allowed size of the production menu. :P
  
  Since there are 10 slots. xD
  
  gold gold
  base base
  blood blood
  mana mana
  (base base pots? :V)
  
  
  It kind of makes me wish that other things would stack higher.
  
  Like herbs and threads and fabrics/leathers. xD
  Ores. :\
  And Mining being a skill.
  
  
  Heh...
  THERE SURE IS A LOT OF DREAMING GOING ON IN THIS THREAD.
  I like that. :D
• kevinXIV wrote on 2011-07-05 02:46

  Quote from Fabian;500355:

  I'm more in favor of something that reduces risk of dying. Melee users have to get near a monster in order to kill it, thus drawing the attention of the other 5+ monsters. If they have more than, lets say, 2,000 hp, you are pretty much dead, or going to play dead for a while. Meanwhile Rangers can safely snipe from afar, alchemist can use Golems, flame burst, water cannon, and Mages can use their magic from a distance.
  
  I think a skill that prevents other enemies from noticing you while you are fighting 1v1 would be quite useful. This would be abused badly though (mainly by people other than melee).
  
  So yeah, us melee users need something to survive more. Windmill might be epic, but against monsters that can survive it (as in adv/hard missions and adv/hm dungeons) it is useless (if you are fighting multiaggro).

  
  
  :srsly?:
• Aubog007 wrote on 2011-07-05 04:50

  Quote from Iyasenu;500425:

  Heh.
  
  Actually this would make making wound potions fit perfectly in the allowed size of the production menu. :P
  
  Since there are 10 slots. xD
  
  gold gold
  base base
  blood blood
  mana mana
  (base base pots? :V)
  
  
  It kind of makes me wish that other things would stack higher.
  
  Like herbs and threads and fabrics/leathers. xD
  Ores. :\
  And Mining being a skill.
  
  
  Heh...
  THERE SURE IS A LOT OF DREAMING GOING ON IN THIS THREAD.
  I like that. :D

  
  
  
  I dream. That my 600 stamina... Affects my alchemy damage.
  
  
  Yes.
  
  Yes.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2011-07-05 05:43

  Quote from Aubog007;500559:

  I dream. That my 600 stamina... Affects my alchemy damage.
  
  
  Yes.
  
  Yes.

  
  
  Imagine Paladins. :P
  
  Oh man.
  
  I'd....
  I'd almost want to go back...
• System wrote on 2011-07-05 06:49
  Arrow Revolver buff.
  
  YAY