G14S5 Seasonal Update Discussion

• Kollin wrote on 2011-07-05 06:56
  dungeon revamp please *dreams*
• Kenero wrote on 2011-07-05 13:43

  Quote from Aubog007;500559:

  I dream. That my 600 stamina... Affects my alchemy damage.
  
  
  Yes.
  
  Yes.

  
  
  It could be like Final Fantasy Tactics.
  
  Special clothing effect: Turbo Stamina.
  
  Alchemy skills cost 2x the stamina cost, but does 250% more damage!
  
  xD
• Azareel wrote on 2011-07-05 16:52

  Quote from Kenero;500869:

  It could be like Final Fantasy Tactics.
  
  Special clothing effect: Turbo Stamina.
  
  Alchemy skills cost 2x the stamina cost, but does 250% more damage!
  
  xD

  
  
  Even for 2x stamina, 350% of an Alch's current damage would turn everyone into Alchs. Do not want. :c
• Kenero wrote on 2011-07-05 17:03

  Quote from Azareel;501001:

  Even for 2x stamina, 350% of an Alch's current damage would turn everyone into Alchs. Do not want. :c

  
  
  It would only be 1.5x, since 100% is base. xD
  
  Besides, Alchemy has limited growth. Having a special clothing effect like that can easily close the gap.
• Moon wrote on 2011-07-05 17:20

  Quote from Kenero;501013:

  It would only be 1.5x, since 100% is base. xD

  
  It would be 350% because he said 250% more. 100% + 250% = 350% 8D
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-07-05 17:35

  Quote from Kenero;500869:

  It could be like Final Fantasy Tactics.
  
  Special clothing effect: Turbo Stamina.
  
  Alchemy skills cost 2x the stamina cost, but does 250% more damage!
  
  xD

  
  
  Except that Stamina cost almost nothing. (Stamina Pots are cheap for most people)
• Kenero wrote on 2011-07-05 17:52

  Quote from Moon;501029:

  It would be 350% because he said 250% more. 100% + 250% = 350% 8D

  
  
  1.5x = 150% with 1x being the base.
  
  100% + 150% = 250%.
  
  So it's roughly 1.5x.
  
  Making it 350% would be 3x stronger than the current alchemy, my goal is to only have 2 and a half alchemy spells worth for our current 1.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2011-07-05 18:02

  Quote from Kenero;501071:

  1.5x = 150% with 1x being the base.
  
  100% + 150% = 250%.
  
  So it's roughly 1.5x.
  
  Making it 350% would be 3x stronger than the current alchemy, my goal is to only have 2 and a half alchemy spells worth for our current 1.

  
  
  
  Or just make it stat based.
  
  Although i wouldn't mind either way since water cannon and heat buster will rarely if ever crit on elite mobs without sacrificing a lot of damage potential.
• TropicalCat wrote on 2011-07-05 18:38

  Quote from Iyasenu;500610:

  Imagine Paladins. :P
  
  Oh man.
  
  I'd....
  I'd almost want to go back...

  
  
  /1.7k stamina in trans
  /Jizface
• Kenero wrote on 2011-07-05 19:06

  Quote from Aubog007;501083:

  Or just make it stat based.
  
  Although i wouldn't mind either way since water cannon and heat buster will rarely if ever crit on elite mobs without sacrificing a lot of damage potential.

  
  
  If they made heat buster critical regardless of the monster's protection, its usefulness will skyrocket.
  
  It's bad enough that Alchemist's main weapon, the Cylinder (5% base) compared to other weapons (that can reach 40%+ crit easily just on weapon alone) has low crit, but you need more to be able to crit in elite, while those in Warrior, Ranger, Magic division can crit in elite easily.
• Mentosftw wrote on 2011-07-05 19:25
  -.- Why is bunshin so cheap...
  
  It's only 173 ap to rank 1 it! Damn, 23 extra str and 18 stam too...
  
  It hits blinkers and mobs that are ice speared -.-
• Aubog007 wrote on 2011-07-05 19:30

  Quote from Kenero;501156:

  If they made heat buster critical regardless of the monster's protection, its usefulness will skyrocket.
  
  It's bad enough that Alchemist's main weapon, the Cylinder (5% base) compared to other weapons (that can reach 40%+ crit easily just on weapon alone) has low crit, but you need more to be able to crit in elite, while those in Warrior, Ranger, Magic division can crit in elite easily.

  
  
  
  Good intentions with alchemy.
  
  Bad implementation with it.
  
  Frankly i love heat buster and i will do my best to be able to crit elite mobs with it and not sacrifice too much damage potential.
  
  I will be content with 100% crit rate on cylinders. Which i can achieve with Steam Synergy and Flame.
  
  However i can sacrifice some damage for Restored and produce some astonishing results.
  110-120% Cylinder crit.
• Kenero wrote on 2011-07-05 19:36

  Quote from Aubog007;501201:

  Good intentions with alchemy.
  
  Bad implementation with it.
  
  Frankly i love heat buster and i will do my best to be able to crit elite mobs with it and not sacrifice too much damage potential.
  
  I will be content with 100% crit rate on cylinders. Which i can achieve with Steam Synergy and Flame.
  
  However i can sacrifice some damage for Restored and produce some astonishing results.
  110-120% Cylinder crit.

  
  
  Really? You can get to 120% crit?
  
  That's really amazing. I can't do that, at best, if I sacrifice all potential fire upgrade and go for all crit on the cylinder, stiff caliburn + stiff tail cap, + who Saved the Goddess title, as well as Wooden Needle... I can get up to 80% crit, however that's sacrificing a lot of damage potential which makes me a bit curious about it.
  
  I've heard people who rebirth at young age can easily get to 100+ luck, but as it stands, my luck has eternally been stuck on 19 base. x_X
• Aubog007 wrote on 2011-07-05 19:43

  Quote from Kenero;501210:

  Really? You can get to 120% crit?
  
  That's really amazing. I can't do that, at best, if I sacrifice all potential fire upgrade and go for all crit on the cylinder, stiff caliburn + stiff tail cap, + who Saved the Goddess title, as well as Wooden Needle... I can get up to 80% crit, however that's sacrificing a lot of damage potential which makes me a bit curious about it.
  
  I've heard people who rebirth at young age can easily get to 100+ luck, but as it stands, my luck has eternally been stuck on 19 base. x_X

  
  
  The crit set im talking about will apply to all forms of combat.
  
  Also it will allow water cannon to crit consistently too.
  
  Meaning potentially R typing Tidal Waves
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-07-05 19:59

  Quote from Kenero;501210:

  Really? You can get to 120% crit?
  
  That's really amazing. I can't do that, at best, if I sacrifice all potential fire upgrade and go for all crit on the cylinder, stiff caliburn + stiff tail cap, + who Saved the Goddess title, as well as Wooden Needle... I can get up to 80% crit, however that's sacrificing a lot of damage potential which makes me a bit curious about it.
  
  I've heard people who rebirth at young age can easily get to 100+ luck, but as it stands, my luck has eternally been stuck on 19 base. x_X

  
  
  Don't forget that having tons of +will from a variety of skills helps a lot as well. Some people can get 80+/20+ levels in one rebirth, so it isn't much of a surprise.