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How so? It's your job to resolve issues/disputes, so do it properly. 8D
And for those who do not know, Global Ignore is a function that adds a user to everyone's ignore list without anyone else knowing. Essentially, it's a form of ban, without actually banning someone. The offending user will just keep posting, but other users will not know they exist. The idea is that unlike with a ban, the user will not complain about being banned, the community will not notice them being banned, and the possibility of the user to make an alt to continue harassing/spamming is lowered.
A tactic commonly used on forums that are either too massive to properly manage, where the staff are disconnected from the community, or out of plain lazyness and incompetence.
One can ignore the above, although the pagination issue would still be annoying. Look at the Member's Photos! thread as an example of this. Try to go to the last page, and you'll find that you'll get sent back to the previous page instead.
I know, and like I said, your job is to resolve issues like that properly. (And I know at least one example of who you're talking about, though I don't feel particularly sympathetic to that person.)
Anyone on said list was talked to extensively by a number of Staff members and refused to cooperate, either from sheer stubbornness or an inability to do so.
In an ideal world, we could talk to these people and they would improve their behavior, or we could just ban them and the problem would go away. But this isn't a perfect world.
People who are banned around here tend to have a real nasty tendency to not stay banned and to repeatedly come back with proxies just to torment the **** out of us.
So what's better?
1) Poor Yoorah getting flustered that he occasionally comes upon a thread that has the wrong number of pages?
2) An entire outraged community constantly flaming and trolling everywhere because of a single problem member, which in turn will result in us having to punish these members repeatedly, perhaps even be forced to ban many of our regulars and constantly have to deal with the flood of havoc wreaked upon the forums every single day.
3) Ban said person. And now, problem #2 is still present except now it happens seemingly randomly from new users with completely different IP's, so we are forced to treat each case separately and fairly, which just increases the length of time said person is still on the forums until we come to a conclusion without a doubt that it is either that member or this person is a problem too, in either of which case, the entire process now repeats itself. #2 again. Ad infinitum.
Quote from Yoorah;717909:
Only if you're lazy and you don't feel like dealing with someone, or lack the skills to deal with someone. :|
This is very disrespectful Yoorah. The staff here works hard every single day to keep this place running smoothly, and it's all volunteer work. None of us get paid for this.
And you're delusional if you think we just magically "lack the skills to deal with someone" or that we're all just lazy.
Opposed to what you may believe, some people cannot be swayed or reasoned with. Some people will just inherently be pricks to others or borderline retards, no matter what we say or do, and there's nothing we can do about that. That's just how those people are.
It's a bit like this... Let's think of this person as a chair. A chair is great for sitting. But we don't want a chair, we want a table.
But a chair isn't a table. A chair is a completely different piece of furniture, one which will never be a table because it's something that that it simply isn't.
Do you get mad at a chair for not being a table? No, because it can't do anything about it. That's just how it is.
We want someone to be something that is impossible for them to be. There's nothing that will ever change that.
So, the only solution is to get rid of them in one way or another. Most people tend to not stay gone when they're gotten away with properly. They just keep coming back again and again, and the problem continues as if it had never stopped, except it's now worse because there's no precedent for the person and each time it has to be reanalyzed.
Some people, though, will never even realize that they're globally muted, or it will take them some time to find out. This means that, effectively, the problem has went away.
There is one single person that we have had to ban now well over a hundred times, and they still just keep coming back to torment the community for their own amusement. There's nothing that can be done except banning them when we find them. Their local law enforcement has refused to cooperate on multiple occasions. It's not like we're lazy and don't take these things seriously.
Sometimes, there's just not a better solution.