New weapon, skills, items, and tweaks you'd like to see!~

• DefinitelyNotTwin wrote on 2015-03-16 14:05

  Quote from Zeo;1267995:

  I certainly don't see that like this way... If anything, I'd also remove the cap off stats, because there's no point in having the stat cap in first place anyway.

  
  
  let's agree to disagree, because I think even with are capped stats and below, content is steam rolled like nothing.
• Zeo wrote on 2015-03-16 14:07

  Quote from Kaeporo;1268000:

  I agree that the stat cap should be removed but I also agree that our stat inflation is pretty ridiculous.
  
  Equipment restrictions have become the biggest limiting factor for talent usage. Regardless, Mabinogi doesn't have much left to be proud of. Life skills are in shambles and combat talents are so universally effective that they've all become interchangeable. Nexon even abandoned the "Fantasy Life" slogan that people loved to cling on to as if it meant something meaningful.

  
  
  I agree with you for some points on this post... I do think Mabinogi have lot of 'fantasy life' feel to it still, but it is starting to fade away, with all the restrictions devCat are trying to slap onto Mabinogi.
  
  But what do you exactly mean by equipment restriction?
  
  

  Quote from DefinitelyNotTwin;1268001:

  let's agree to disagree, because I think even with are capped stats and below, content is steam rolled like nothing.

  
  
  It have been starting to be like that ever since chapter 4 was introduced and was starting to get worse, because developers seem to not know how to make the difficult contents right. Lot of people insist on nerfing and rebalancing lot of skills just to make our current content more difficult, but to be honest, I'd rather see developers release new contents that are actually challenging, but like Kaeporo said, we all always find some loopholes to make that content easy, and developers doesn't always focus on updating the contents such as dungeons or shadow missions, and just throw new contents at us every time only for it to collect the dust after.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-03-16 17:42
  Before taking off the stat cap, nerf the fucking combat power gains from them.
• Tropa wrote on 2015-03-16 18:58

  Quote from Zeo;1267995:

  I certainly don't see that like this way... If anything, I'd also remove the cap off stats, because there's no point in having the stat cap in first place anyway.

  
  
  game forever easymodo
  
  
  
  They really need to tone tone down the stat giving sources in that game, namely talents.
• Daniel1235 wrote on 2015-03-16 20:59

  Quote from Darkboy132;1268014:

  Before taking off the stat cap, nerf the fucking combat power gains from them.

  
  
  Damn straight! :thumb::cheer::sing::2thumb:
• Zeo wrote on 2015-03-16 21:29

  Quote from Tropa;1268017:

  game forever easymodo
  
  
  
  They really need to tone tone down the stat giving sources in that game, namely talents.

  
  
  Quite too late to take out talents now, the damage has been done.
  
  

  Quote from Daniel1235;1268019:

  Damn straight! :thumb::cheer::sing::2thumb:

  
  
  I third this, less CP power from stats please... Or at least, give us new CP enchants.
• Tropa wrote on 2015-03-16 21:47

  Quote from Zeo;1268021:

  Quite too late to take out talents now, the damage has been done.

  
  
  Ah well, this game had a good run.
• Zeo wrote on 2015-03-16 22:32

  Quote from Tropa;1268024:

  Ah well, this game had a good run.

  
  
  While I do not mind talents... I quite dislike the GM system for it because it's quite restricting and would rather there's no GM for the talents.
  
  I think C4 director is to blame (unless we got a different director for G17 and both saga) for most of the damages being done to Mabinogi.
• DefinitelyNotTwin wrote on 2015-03-16 22:40

  Quote from Zeo;1268002:

  It have been starting to be like that ever since chapter 4 was introduced and was starting to get worse, because developers seem to not know how to make the difficult contents right. Lot of people insist on nerfing and rebalancing lot of skills just to make our current content more difficult, but to be honest, I'd rather see developers release new contents that are actually challenging, but like Kaeporo said, we all always find some loopholes to make that content easy, and developers doesn't always focus on updating the contents such as dungeons or shadow missions, and just throw new contents at us every time only for it to collect the dust after.

  
  
  I think we all have to realize something pretty obvious before we can even think of rebalancing missions/dungeons, and adding real challenge. I had a ideal rebalance of an existing mission named defeat the shadow wizard that friends seem to like, but would be pretty easy In this meta soo..I can understand the directors a little bit.
  
  But since we're taking adding more challenging content to fit this meta, what would be your idea of challenging?
• Zyrus wrote on 2015-03-16 23:09
  Finest Reforging Tool:
  
  Has a 50% chance or ranking item to a higher level.
  Cannot add lines.
  Cost:15k nx
  
  Finest Credhine Reforging Tool:
  Has a 100% chance of making item 3 lines.
  Cannot Rank Item to higher level
  Cost:20k nx
  
  Elite Reforging tool:
  Only works on R1 reforged items.
  Will give at least 1 level 20(or 100% of max) stat other lines have minimum cap of 10(or 50% of max).
  Cost 20k nx.
  
  All are tradable:
  
  I know its pay to win but I'm working on reforging like 4 sets currently...Would be nice.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-03-17 00:07

  Quote from Zeo;1268026:

  While I do not mind talents... I quite dislike the GM system for it because it's quite restricting and would rather there's no GM for the talents.
  
  I think C4 director is to blame (unless we got a different director for G17 and both saga) for most of the damages being done to Mabinogi.

  
  
  C4 director worked on C5 as well.
  
  Grandmaster could use some better achievements and touch-ups, but talents in general needs a nerf.
  
  

  Quote from Zeo:

  Lezzaro: Gimme money to get grandmaster everything.

  
  
  LOL wow. As if the duke of Aliech wasn't rich enough. :XD:
• Kapra wrote on 2015-03-17 03:34

  Quote from Darkboy132;1268035:

  C4 director worked on C5 as well.

  
  We don't know for sure if the director that worked on G13 was the same director as the one that worked on G17 and Drama/Saga 1/2 (or Saga 1 was made by the same person as G17). Also there is no C5.
  
  I don't really see stat inflation as a problem. Well I mean it could be a problem but I don't see the state of stats right now as inflated yet. That being said, I'm not for Zeo's GM idea. Nor do I want the frame of Hero talents to ever change (no it's not the same as a silver frame).
  

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  But I do think the GM frame should be available to hidden talents only if 1 of the talents involved in the title is GM and the others are all Master. (So if you have GM Lance, and Master Close Combat and Fighter, then you'd have GM Striker instead of Master Striker.)
  
  But yes, stat CP is a huge issue. Rather than being based on how many stats there are in total (game still acts as if there is only a handful of Str/HP available when it comes to calculating how much CP a stat should give), it should be based on how easy it is to get those stats.
  
  I will never understand people like Tropa and Kaeporo, who make it sounds like people are 1 or 2 hitting all the monsters in Elite and Lord missions with NPC bought-tier weapons. That sounds really unrealistic to me. If you have to rely on items and other buffs to get to that level, then I don't see stats as the problem. No fence Kaeporo.
• DefinitelyNotTwin wrote on 2015-03-17 04:37
  Homestead items no longer use a box system, and items can be put close to eachother. Fences merge to make a connected wall
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2015-03-17 05:18
  Monster types like Apostles handles stat inflation pretty well since most of its attack is % based. The raid itself encourages teamwork as well.
• DefinitelyNotTwin wrote on 2015-03-17 07:26

  Quote from EndlessDreams;1268056:

  Monster types like Apostles handles stat inflation pretty well since most of its attack is % based. The raid itself encourages teamwork as well.

  
  
  [video=youtube;TBUhLqTrGIY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBUhLqTrGIY[/video]
  
  Well..at least there's still teamwork? lolol
  
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