G13 Class System

• Everwanderer wrote on 2010-07-25 05:16

  Quote from Kyouriharu;103977:

  Adventurerers are naked
  
  Because when you're naked, it's always an adventure!

  
  
  They obviously get to wear anything, maybe they need to fulfill a requirement to wear plate/heavy armour.
  
  If the teaser picture is to be interpreted as the class teaser, then devcat seems to follow my logic.
  

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• Moppy wrote on 2010-07-25 05:17

  Quote from bradstrt;103975:

  Well seeing as how they let you pick and choose (but you have to pay for weekly or wait 3 weeks Q_Q) I'm still kinda iffy about it. People are gonna complain about Archers being too strong or Wizards being to strong and call for a nerf. I just see more problems coming out of this change then good.

  
  
  Archers bugging you? Hit them with some magic. Wizards bugging you? Archery and Leap Attack. Classes add balance and team play. Giving you strengths and weaknesses and acquiring people to work together more. People may complain, but their class is better at one thing then the other ones. People will complain in the beginning but they will soon realize that this will benefit the community and gameplay.
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-07-25 05:19

  Quote from Everwanderer;103978:

  They obviously get to wear anything, maybe they need to fulfill a requirement to wear plate/heavy armour.
  
  If the teaser picture is to be interpreted as the class teaser, then devcat seems to follow my logic.
  

  [Image: http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5716/chapter4illust.jpg]

  
  I sense new art style :3
  
  AND FUUUUUUU- GOD DAMIT! WAIIIIII!?!?!?!?!?!!??!?!!? /emo
• Zid wrote on 2010-07-25 05:24

  Quote from pataterose;103969:

  on a side note, how was melee damage nerfed with g13? i heard about magic, but nothing about it o-o;

  
  
  http://mabination.com/mabinogi/mabinogi-talk/5786-ranged-combat-update.html#post99141
  
  I really am skeptic of Adventurer class because of G13 test server Melee/Magic nerf.
  
  EDIT: I also don't believe implementing a class system will discourage solo play in anyway. If anything, I think it encourages it more, because of class-specific buffs.
• Moppy wrote on 2010-07-25 05:30

  Quote from Zid;103986:

  http://mabination.com/mabinogi/mabinogi-talk/5786-ranged-combat-update.html#post99141
  
  I really am skeptic of Adventurer class because of G13 test server Melee/Magic nerf.
  
  EDIT: I also don't believe implementing a class system will discourage solo play in anyway. If anything, I think it encourages it more, because of class-specific buffs.

  
  
  But what about enemies with HS, MD and NS. Being a class will make it difficult to defeat these enemies.
  
  ...
  
  I guess you can say it encourages both solo and multi play... In other words, I may play Mabi more! :D
• Taliya wrote on 2010-07-25 05:41
  I'm looking forward to this. I'm mainly Melee but use Alchemy to back up my skills. Oh well.
• JustNoOne wrote on 2010-07-25 05:43

  Quote from Juno;103972:

  That's pretty much how it is. Bards get extra HP/Stam/Dex and less Intelligence or something. I don't know what the skill restrictions are but I imagine windmill isn't as effective...which makes sense.
  
  Knights get extra HP/Stam/Will but much less Int/Mana.
  
  Wizards get massive Int/Mana boosts and much less HP/Stam and it seems they get a 1% magic damage increase per 20 points of int or something like that.
  
  
  People are complaining that hybrids may no longer be the best at everything, but I think that's sort of the point. You shouldn't be able to at the same time be the master of all things. It makes a game very difficult to support since you have to cater to the guy who may not be able to wm the zombies and also to the guy who clears the whole mob in one shot after spamming thunder and AR on the previous mobs.

  
  
  Well that's okay if Adventurers aren't the best at everything, as long as they have access to everything I'm perfectly fine with it, but restricting people because they chose x path doesn't feel right too me, I mean, if you've achieved x skill (for example ice spear) and you chose to be a bard, shouldn't you have the option to use it regardless of the class you chose? I mean, it's the skill you took time to rank and you should have the ability to use it. I'm just paranoid about if this update will restrict us, because I don't want to be stripped of my right to use a skill I earn just because I switched classes.
  
  Also why can't I be the master of all things or why cant' I go solo? I see no reason why I shouldn't be the master of all things or be a soloist, investing a little in Alchemy, Combat and Magic should be allowed if the player desires to do this, and to nerf combat damage and magic damage for those that are Adventures isn't helping the situation at all. It just makes thing ever-so-more complicated and thus the player will end up having to switch classes.
  
  And this is not "fantasy life" to me at all, to be somewhat "forced" to change classes because someone what they want isn't "fantasy life" at all, I have to change to x class if I want to be good at this aspect at Mabinogi.
  
  Why not just have the ability to be good at all?
• Zid wrote on 2010-07-25 05:45

  Quote from Moppy;103990:

  But what about enemies with HS, MD and NS. Being a class will make it difficult to defeat these enemies.
  
  ...
  
  I guess you can say it encourages both solo and multi play... In other words, I may play Mabi more! :D

  
  
  If the Adventurer class can solo hard dungeons...
  
  And everybody wants the classes to be balanced...
  
  Wouldn't it be expected that either Adventurer class gets nerfed, or the rest of the classes be able to solo?
  
  As much as I see people's points in supporting a class system, there are signs and issues pointing out that the whole class system might flop.
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-07-25 05:47
  Or the monsters get nerfed .__.
  
  
  So complicated adding this in ;_;
• Moppy wrote on 2010-07-25 05:49

  Quote from Zid;104004:

  If the Adventurer class can solo hard dungeons...
  
  And everybody wants the classes to be balanced...
  
  Wouldn't it be expected that either Adventurer class gets nerfed, or the rest of the classes be able to solo?

  
  
  Perhaps the Adventurer has the advantage of being able to technically solo everything but they do not get stat bonuses and most likely won't be able to get all the future skills. I think that's pretty fair giving them the ability to solo everything if they can't be sufficient in one kind of skill.
  
  Will there be an Adventurer nerf? I would assume not much of one. There will be other class buffs instead to make up for the Adventurer's flexibility.
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-07-25 06:00
  Also, Archers have to become a Bard to get any good DEX bonuses.
  
  Yet they don't get Mastery skills?
  
  It seems a little unfair, even if it's optional.
  
  Plus, Bard =/= Archer. I just don't see it.
  
  
  All I see from this is some people becoming super uber, but those others who want to remain as hybrids don't get bonuses. Whether that's good or bad, it depends on your opinion.
  
  I personally do not like it.
  
  However, it does encourage party play.
• Moppy wrote on 2010-07-25 06:03

  Quote from Phunkie;104033:

  Also, Archers have to become a Bard to get any good bonuses.
  
  Yet they don't get Mastery skills?
  
  It seems a little unfair, even if it's optional.

  
  
  I'm sure we can expect those kind of skills in future updates. This is going to be helluva hard thing to balance so we can assume tons of skills, buffs and nerfs each season.
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-07-25 06:06

  Quote from Moppy;104037:

  I'm sure we can expect those kind of skills in future updates. This is going to be helluva hard thing to balance so we can assume tons of skills, buffs and nerfs each season.

  
  
  Totally. I guess I'll just sit back and wait to see.
  
  These specializations are not at all a horrible idea. I just hate how limiting they are.
• Moppy wrote on 2010-07-25 06:08

  Quote from Phunkie;104045:

  Totally. I guess I'll just sit back and wait to see.
  
  These specializations are not at all a horrible idea. I just hate how limiting they are.

  
  
  I think we can agree with that. But as a giant, I'm kinda used to to this limiting stuff. Humans will be the ones having the hardest time with it. :D
• pkMaster wrote on 2010-07-25 06:10
  Anyone notice the merchant class? That seems like an odd class to include since it probably wouldn't have any combat worthy skills/buffs. Not really sure what to think of this since there's not information available to determine how things would play out. This class system might be a cool addition it they play their cards right, but it could also break the game if it becomes too restrictive. I guess we'll have to see what happens in the future.