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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-10-25 15:19
Your life maybe.
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RealityBreak wrote on 2012-10-25 15:20
Quote from Sumpfkraut;969179:
Your life maybe.
In my opinion, abortion at age 18 is only okay for me. So yeah, my life.
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Maenad wrote on 2012-10-25 17:07
If abortion is murder, then miscarriages/stillbirths are accidental manslaughter/negligent homicide, and masturbation, birth control, and sterilization/castration is mass genocide.
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RealityBreak wrote on 2012-10-25 17:09
Quote from Maenad;969248:
If abortion is murder, then miscarriages/stillbirths are accidental manslaughter/negligent homicide, and masturbation, birth control, and sterilization/castration is mass genocide.
Delicious reasoning. Now, if we could get this message to the
Italians...
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-10-25 17:10
Quote from Maenad;969248:
If abortion is murder, then miscarriages/stillbirths are accidental manslaughter/negligent homicide, and masturbation, birth control, and sterilization/castration is mass genocide.
Nope! Miscarriage and stillbirth would definitely be cases of force majeure (
unless definitely caused by negligent behaviour during pregnancy, which has to be proven though), and in those other cases the genetical data is incomplete and in this state not any more the schemes for a human being than a rough sketch makes a technical drawing.
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Maenad wrote on 2012-10-25 17:32
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Nope! Miscarriage and stillbirth would definitely be cases of force majeure (unless definitely caused by negligent behaviour during pregnancy, which has to be proven though), and in those other cases the genetical data is incomplete and in this state not any more the schemes for a human being than a rough sketch makes a technical drawing.
And yet I don't see it being too much of a stretch, having a mother of a stillborn baby arrested and taken to court until they prove whether or not she exhibited negligent behavior.
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-10-25 17:39
Well yeah. Custody may be a problem.
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RealityBreak wrote on 2012-10-25 17:57
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Well yeah. Custody may be a problem.
Huh?
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-10-25 18:12
Quote from RealityBreak;969281:
Huh?
I was agreeing that in such a scenario it would be possible that women who suffered a stillbirth may be put into custody. Grotesque, but that is irrelevant to the point. Man has done more grotesque things anyway.
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Monarchist wrote on 2012-10-26 08:33
The only things I have strong convictions about are the use of alcohol, tobacco products, or any other controlled substance used with the purpose is getting a high of some sort, and I'm very strongly against organized religion. Other than that, I adapt my views as I learn new information pertaining to whatever subject is in question. Oh and I wouldn't classify it as a belief or view, but I very firmly despise pop, dubstep, rap, and any sort of derivative genre of those three types of music, by which I mean anything that sounds similar to the genre in question. The only exceptions I make are some classic pop groups such as The Beatles and Queen, but I personally classify them as classic rock rather than pop.