My views are far from set in stone

• TLCBonaparte wrote on 2012-10-25 01:08

  Quote from RealityBreak;968741:

  Please learn to follow arguments leading to this point? It is only considered a parasite if it is not considered part of the woman's body. The woman should have the right to an abortion with either perspective. And yes, I am a parasite. I've been sucking money out of my parents since I was born, and am taking more for college (not on full scholarship). 100% parasite.
  
  I'm justifying abortion.

  
  
  Then do you retract your state about fetus being parasitic? If not then ur justifying calling fetus parasites.
• Chiyuri wrote on 2012-10-25 01:08

  Quote from TLCBonaparte;968740:

  How does parasitic mono specie work exactly? You guys are just digging in deeper, stop trying to justify calling fetus parasites lol.

  
  
  It probably doesn't work for long to begin with.. having a parasitic phase at the begining of life is normal for some species (laying eggs is a non parasitic way I guess..).. Remaining a parasite for an entire life is a different matter..
• RealityBreak wrote on 2012-10-25 01:10

  Quote from Chiyuri;968745:

  From your point of view maybe; personally, my point of view indicates that my existence is ever changing, and if there is a true beginning to it, it was at the ages 1-2.. At that age, the body is beyond the parasite phase; hence I don't see myself as ever having been one.
  
  P.S.
  Drinking water is an action you can deliberately take, but some forms of parasites that affect humans can infect you from the water you drink(in certain locations of the world)
  Even if the action created such a consequence, it doesn't mean the consequence was something accepted. Something desired, something mutual.

  
  
  Not sure what you meant with the last phrase.
• Episkey wrote on 2012-10-25 01:10

  Quote from RealityBreak;968741:

  Please learn to follow arguments leading to this point? It is only considered a parasite if it is not considered part of the woman's body. The woman should have the right to an abortion with either perspective. And yes, I am a parasite. I've been sucking money out of my parents since I was born, and am taking more for college (not on full scholarship). 100% parasite.

  
  
  What I'm calling into light is a very wrong usage of the term "parasite".
  
  With such a broad definition anything could be considered a parasite.
  
  
  

  Quote from Chiyuri;968745:

  From your point of view maybe, personnaly, my point of view indicate that my existance is ever changing and if there is a truth begining to it, it's at age 1-2.. At that age the body is beyond the parasite phase, hence I don't see myself has ever having been one.
  
  P.S.
  Drinking water is an action you can deliberatly take but some form of parasite that affect human can contaminate you from water you drink(in certain location of the world)
  Even if the cause create such a consequence, it doesn't mean the consequence was something accepted. Something desired, something mutual.

  
  
  ...
  
  You know. Never mind. This is something on a completely different realm.
• Chiyuri wrote on 2012-10-25 01:12

  Quote from Episkey;968757:

  
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  You know. Never mind. This is something on a completely different realm.

  
  
  Why even write anything then =.=
• RealityBreak wrote on 2012-10-25 01:13

  Quote from Episkey;968757:

  What I'm calling into light is a very wrong usage of the term "parasite".
  
  With such a broad definition anything could be considered a parasite.
  
  
  
  
  ...
  
  You know. Never mind. This is something on a completely different realm.

  
  
  What are you arguing for? It's a parasite if you don't want it <.<
• TLCBonaparte wrote on 2012-10-25 01:13

  Quote from Chiyuri;968752:

  It probably doesn't work for long to begin with.. having a parasitic phase at the begining of life is normal for some species (laying eggs is a non parasitic way I guess..).. Remaining a parasite for an entire life is a different matter..

  
  
  I prefer the term "in the womb" instead of "parasitic phase". Anyway, if you want to kill fetus, I can't stop you, if you think it's the right thing to do then go ahead, too tired to argue the trivial, it's not like I murdered someone.
• Chiyuri wrote on 2012-10-25 01:17

  Quote from TLCBonaparte;968760:

  I prefer the term "in the womb" instead of "parasitic phase". Anyway, if you want to kill fetus, I can't stop you, if you think it's the right thing to do then go ahead, too tired to argue the trivial, it's not like I murdered someone.

  
  
  Indeed, I feel the same way. Which is fine. My ponit is mostly, people's view differ, and we can't really argue inbetwen each other's view since most of the time, views and opinion are set in stone -.-
  I'm just arguing because people keep talking as if their view is the only one that count in the world, and maybe cause some people piss me off so I can't help but want to keep countering their faulty argumentation(not you through).
• Episkey wrote on 2012-10-25 01:18

  Quote from RealityBreak;968759:

  What are you arguing for? It's a parasite if you don't want it <.<

  
  
  

  Quote from Chiyuri;968758:

  Why even write anything then =.=

  
  
  
  I was trying to understand the viewpoint being stated, but quickly realized this is something that I personally could never hope to comprehend.
  
  So please. Just continue ... or stop. Whatever works best.
• Chiyuri wrote on 2012-10-25 01:19

  Quote from Episkey;968763:

  I was trying to understand the viewpoint being stated, but quickly realized this is something that I personally could never hope to comprehend.
  
  So please. Just continue ... or stop. Whatever works best.

  
  
  Ah ok, it's fine then ^^ If people understand that atleast there are stuff they can never fully understand about the point of view of others, than I'm happy.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2012-10-25 01:22
  Oh jeez. You guys are still at this?
  
  

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  If you keep going there's an Abortion service station a few more miles down the road.
• RealityBreak wrote on 2012-10-25 01:24

  Quote from Chiyuri;968761:

  Indeed, I feel the same way. Which is fine. My point is mostly, people's views differ, and we can't really argue between each other's view since most of the time, views and opinion are set in stone -.-
  I'm just arguing because people keep talking as if their view is the only one that counts in the world, and maybe cause some people piss me off so I can't help but want to keep countering their faulty argumentation (not you through).

  
  
  My views on morality have been set in stone since I was aware they existed, and by these views, I like to argue with people who have false logic. Because I'm just that bored.
  
  

  Quote from Chiyuri;968764:

  Ah ok, it's fine then ^^ If people understand that at least there are things they can never fully understand about the point of view of others, than I'm happy.

  
  
  To be unable to understand is ignorance, and ignorance is a sin. But luckily, blood cleanses all sins...
  
  

  Quote from Kingofrunes;968766:

  Oh jeez. You guys are still at this?
  
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  If you keep going there's an Abortion service station a few more miles down the road.

  
  
  Find yourself some steadfast values. Don't be lax with what you believe in, or your sense of justice will slip away. It also helps to have something to argue about, since people love to argue.
• Drizzit wrote on 2012-10-25 02:52

  Quote from RealityBreak;968741:

  Please learn to follow arguments leading to this point? It is only considered a parasite if it is not considered part of the woman's body. The woman should have the right to an abortion with either perspective. And yes, I am a parasite. I've been sucking money out of my parents since I was born, and am taking more for college (not on full scholarship). 100% parasite.
  
  
  
  I'm justifying abortion.

  
  You're attempting to justify abortion by dehumanizing the fetus. However, I have already demonstrated why all such arguments are flawed. Violence against another is in itself a dehumanizing act, which is essentially what makes killing anther human such a heinous thing in the first place. Thus, all murderers try to justify their actions be dehumanizing their victims in such a way as to claim that the victim was somehow less than human beforehand. Oddly enough, you refute your own argument by admitting that you are still a parasite, yet I assume you do not believe your parents have the right to abort you at this stage in your development.
• Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-10-25 08:19
  Because I can't be bothered, just read through this if you will, which I don't expect you do.
• RealityBreak wrote on 2012-10-25 15:08

  Quote from Drizzit;968858:

  You're attempting to justify abortion by dehumanizing the fetus. However, I have already demonstrated why all such arguments are flawed. Violence against another is in itself a dehumanizing act, which is essentially what makes killing anther human such a heinous thing in the first place. Thus, all murderers try to justify their actions be dehumanizing their victims in such a way as to claim that the victim was somehow less than human beforehand. Oddly enough, you refute your own argument by admitting that you are still a parasite, yet I assume you do not believe your parents have the right to abort you at this stage in your development.

  
  
  Yes, I am dehumanizing a fetus. A fetus is just a mass of developing cells. I do not believe parents in general should have the right to abort at my stage of development (18 years), as the fetus would have become a self conscious individual. I would however, allow my parents the right to do this to myself. Life is boring.