G13 grievances addressed?

• paladin wrote on 2010-07-28 17:19
  Well
  Saka
  People who just dont want a class dont have to
  Its all about choice right?
  And good job to devcat
  Instead of risking losing their playerbase with someing that was questionable
  They gave us something to help make the game deeper
• Phanterz wrote on 2010-07-28 17:32
  This better stay permanent :V
• Kayate wrote on 2010-07-28 17:37
  Ah sweet no more class specific skills
• Tatsigi wrote on 2010-07-28 17:41

  Quote from Juno;107899:

  Yeah, of all the things they were planning that was the one I most looked forward to.
  
  This seems rather pointless now, you get a moderate stat boost and maybe some class specific equipment but that's it. No negative stats, no skill restrictions...basically it's hybrid or bust yet again. Even if I work 10 times as hard as the next person, if I'm melee and they're hybrid I can't hold a candle to them. In other words, giants are just as screwed as they've always been while humans are even stronger on the relative scale. If they don't have class specific skills it's literally pointless.
  
  Oh and fyi, the archer class is probably going to be identical to the bard class without the music yet people will be totally satisfied.

  
  
  I hate devcat now, The class sytem before this was much better. So they are just gonna give classless people all the skills, and give the knights hailstorm. What the F***. Pure players are being jacked once again. Not Just pure melee. Pure everyone. Mages, Alchemist, and archers. Once again mabi is going to go back to the same old s***. Melee people spamming WM and melee attack and now they can switch to the trinity stafff whenever they need a strong magic attack with no penalty. And too all you archers, you are happy now just cause u got ur name changed. It was the SAME thing even when it was called bard. The whole system before was a way to make everyone unique. So everyone wouldnt have the same God D*** skills and thats all gone now.This was one of the only chances they had to increase party play and overall fairness and they ruined it. Good F****** job devcat.
  
  If my post is jumbled up, its cause im pissed
• Andy-Buddy wrote on 2010-07-28 17:44

  Quote from Tatsigi;107943:

  I hate devcat now, The class sytem before this was much better. So they are just gonna give classless people all the skills, and give the knights hailstorm. What the F***. Pure players are being jacked once again. Once again mabi is going to go back to the same old s***. Melee people spamming WM and melee attack and now they can switch to the trinity stafff whenever they need a strong magic attack with no penalty. And too all you archers, you are happy now just cause u got ur name changed. It was the SAME thing even when it was called bard. The whole system before was a way to make everyone unique. So everyone wouldnt have the same God D*** skills and thats all gone now.This was one of the only chances they had to increase party play and overall fairness and they ruined it. Good F****** job devcat.
  
  If my post is jumbled up, its cause im pissed

  
  
  This revision keeps Mabi at its roots, of freedom of choice, and you aren't restricted by any skills you like. It gives you a chance to boost the skills and stats you want, and you can still use everything.
  
  To the "Bard -> Archer" thing, that was just a sarcastic remark. There most likely is a bigger change, but I cannot be sure.
• Tatsigi wrote on 2010-07-28 17:47

  Quote from Andy-Buddy;107945:

  This revision keeps Mabi at its roots, of freedom of choice, and you aren't restricted by any skills you like. It gives you a chance to boost the skills and stats you want, and you can still use everything.
  
  To the "Bard -> Archer" thing, that was just a sarcastic remark. There most likely is a bigger change, but I cannot be sure.

  
  
  The revisions made mabi better for people who don't wanna spend thousands on the game. What is the point of gonig pure anything. If u can just get Rank 1 AR, Range, WM, Thunder and be able to do any dungeon. And don't say it isnt possible cause thats how some of my guildies started the game. They ranked those skills 1st and was able to do nearly any dungeon.
• Moppy wrote on 2010-07-28 17:52

  Quote from Tatsigi;107949:

  The revisions made mabi better for people who don't wanna spend thousands on the game. What is the point of gonig pure anything. If u can just get Rank 1 AR, Range, WM, Thunder and be able to do any dungeon. And don't say it isnt possible cause thats how some of my guildies started the game. They ranked those skills 1st and was able to do nearly any dungeon.

  
  
  What about the people who have spent thousands on the game? The people who have played Mabi since the beginning. Classes were unfair to their biggest fans...
• JustNoOne wrote on 2010-07-28 17:53

  Quote from sakraycore;107897:

  so why would anyone pick adventurer now?

  
  

  Quote from Swordslayer;107452:

  This was posted by Neverending on nexon forums:
  
  "Ok I got the patch notes translated CORRECTLY still not word for word but what it says is uh... "Classes will not recieve any stat penalties, All classes will have access to all skills and will be able to train all skills. Depending on the class chose, certain stats will rise faster than others while leveling or aging compared to adventurer. Skills related to the class chose will be much easier to train. Knight: Smash, Defence and Combat Mastery, Wizard: Various Magic skills, Archer: Magnum Shot and Ranged attack, Alchemist: most alchemy skills. Players may change their class at any time by rebirthing." I think this is awesome. So now classes do the following: Increase certain stats when aging/leveling more than they used to, Quick train certain skills, higher starting stats depending on class. Select skills train at 2x the normal rate. There are only 4 classes now and you must pick 1: Warrior, Archer, Mage, Alchemist."
  
  Nexon Forums - Confirmed - No skill limitations between "classes"
  
  Nice save Devcat, this is how classes in Mabinogi should work

  
  You don't get an option to be an Adventurer really, this is makes to pick what you want to specialize in. So really... there is no point in become an Adventurer because there is none. Which makes me sad :T_T:
• Tatsigi wrote on 2010-07-28 17:56
  Well there "biggest fans" should go adventurer. >:C
  
  They cant expect to have all the original skills and all of the skills and masteries coming out.
  
  You can't have your cake and eat it too.
  :mad:
• Tatsigi wrote on 2010-07-28 17:58

  Quote from JustNoOne;107966:

  You don't get an option to be an Adventurer really, this is makes to pick what you want to specialize in. So really... there is no point in become an Adventurer because there is none. Which makes me sad :T_T:

  
  
  Well accorsing to wiki, you can be classless
  
  Jobs - Mabinogi World Wiki
  
  Classless = Adventurer
• Andy-Buddy wrote on 2010-07-28 18:06
  But classless only doesn't help you, as you don't get the benefits, and your ability to grow (the point of mabi rebirths and etc) is cut.
  
  (In the old system especially, somewhat in the new system)
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-07-28 18:07
  Classless is the old system. ;_; The one we all learned to love and hate. So nothing changes. If your playing Mabi now and liking it you'll still like it after the update.
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-07-28 18:08

  Quote from Tatsigi;107943:

  I hate devcat now, The class sytem before this was much better. So they are just gonna give classless people all the skills, and give the knights hailstorm. What the F***. Pure players are being jacked once again. Not Just pure melee. Pure everyone. Mages, Alchemist, and archers. Once again mabi is going to go back to the same old s***. Melee people spamming WM and melee attack and now they can switch to the trinity stafff whenever they need a strong magic attack with no penalty. And too all you archers, you are happy now just cause u got ur name changed. It was the SAME thing even when it was called bard. The whole system before was a way to make everyone unique. So everyone wouldnt have the same God D*** skills and thats all gone now.This was one of the only chances they had to increase party play and overall fairness and they ruined it. Good F****** job devcat.
  
  If my post is jumbled up, its cause im pissed

  
  
  go play mabinogi moar
  instead of some stereotypical wow mmorpg
• Cide wrote on 2010-07-28 18:09

  Quote from abc33kr;107985:

  go play mabinogi moar
  instead of some stereotypical wow mmorpg

  
  
  or they could, alternatively, go play wow moar seeing as they seem to like set classes soooo much.
• Tatsigi wrote on 2010-07-28 18:12

  Quote from abc33kr;107985:

  go play mabinogi moar
  instead of some stereotypical wow mmorpg

  
  
  

  Quote from Cide;107988:

  or they could, alternatively, go play wow moar seeing as they seem to like set classes soooo much.

  
  
  Maybe i will consdering they understand the point of a MMORPG