"Mine" all the data you want.

• Maenad wrote on 2012-12-06 03:35

  Quote from Teemo;992864:

  HAH. They can't even shut down the largest maplestory private servers.
  I'd like to see them try.

  
  
  They can, however, identify the members associated with various wiki accounts.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2012-12-06 03:35

  Quote from Maenad;992854:

  Actually, the bottom line is that the wiki is now disallowed to use extremely accurate, readily available info to increase their wealth of information, just because the North American branch of Nexon doesn't like it.

  
  
  We don't know what the foreign versions have for wiki or what their policies are due to the language barrier. You're pulling assumptions out of your ass at this point.
  
  You know what I can see there is no point or getting through to any of you guys whatsoever. I think we're all pointing guns at Nexon and everyone needs to calm the fuck down already.
  
  Are they completely right? Heck No
  
  Are they completely evil as Soviet Russia or Hitler Germany? Certainly not.
  
  Anyways what's done is done and Nexon is not likely to budge anytime soon.
• Maenad wrote on 2012-12-06 03:49

  Quote from Kingofrunes;992868:

  We don't know what the foreign versions have for wiki or what their policies are due to the language barrier. You're pulling assumptions out of your ass at this point.

  
  
  Yes we do. Have you seen the Japanese wiki?
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2012-12-06 03:52

  Quote from Maenad;992878:

  Yes we do. Have you seen the Japanese wiki?

  
  
  I have not cause it's not in English and I can't read Japanese. Accurate data or not. Nexon made known their wishes and the wiki complied end of story. If you want to be a champion of 100% accurate information, promote an unofficial wiki that blocks NA Nexon's IP and have all the XML ripped data from the client that you want.
  
  Osay can host it if he so wishes.
• Blassreiter wrote on 2012-12-06 03:55
  http://mabinogi.wikiwiki.jp/index.php
  
  Here's the page for JWIKI Windmill. If you look at the chart you can see values that are not known unless mined.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2012-12-06 04:01
  Either way what JP does is their business. This is NA. NA does a lot of things that other servers do not.
  
  NA does not promote modding and they obviously do not promote data mining. You are free to data mine as an unofficial Nexon website. You just can't do it as an "official" one.
  
  I'm not saying either side is wrong. Of course making a new wiki is difficult but really you can either.
  
  1) Raise a hellfire storm here and just cause a lot of noise that only trolls will look for from the Nexon Forums
  
  2) Raise a lot of hellfire on the Nexon Forums and get banned from their forums (at the very least offense) and they probably won't change.
  
  3) Quit Mabinogi in mass so only a very small portion remains and mabye Nexon will get a clue then.
  
  Frankly I want this mess to die already. Go raise a ruckus on Nexon Forums if it matters that much to you.
  
  *sigh*
  
  I honestly don't use the wiki except for recipes and I may as well just copy that stuff off. I occasionally look at released weapon upgrades now and then to see what's available or I experiment on my own.
  
  So for me this wiki hellfire and issue is of no concern of mine.
  
  Plus I'm not a competitive gamer so it doesn't matter to me if the "hidden" data values are off by a certain amount as long as the core information is there I'm good.
• Maenad wrote on 2012-12-06 04:02

  Quote from Kingofrunes;992889:

  Either way what JP does is their business. This is NA. NA does a lot of things that other servers do not.
  
  NA does not promote modding and they obviously do not promote data mining. You are free to data mine as an unofficial Nexon website. You just can't do it as an "official" one.

  
  
  Obviously. The question is why?
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2012-12-06 04:06

  Quote from Maenad;992891:

  Obviously. The question is why?

  
  
  Nobody knows why but it comes down to their new CEO either way cause that's when all this shit started going down. What Nexon left alone for a long time has only just now stirred them up.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2012-12-06 04:17
  Because it spoils information that will eventually come out, because nexon puts crap from future content in our own files, so they gave a blanket restriction to data mining.
• Nithiel wrote on 2012-12-06 04:34
  Basically it's so they can be lazy. "We don't want to hire decent coders and translators, so we'll just ban people for data mining so we don't have to worry about taking that crap out. We'll just put a break in right about... here. That way none of it will work until we delete that."
• Mystickskye wrote on 2012-12-06 04:45
  Nexon doesn't "put" it in, that's how they get their files and this is how all the regions do it.
• Hazeri wrote on 2012-12-06 04:54

  Quote from Kingofrunes;992889:

  Either way what JP does is their business. This is NA. NA does a lot of things that other servers do not.
  
  NA does not promote modding and they obviously do not promote data mining. You are free to data mine as an unofficial Nexon website. You just can't do it as an "official" one.
  
  I'm not saying either side is wrong. Of course making a new wiki is difficult but really you can either.
  
  1) Raise a hellfire storm here and just cause a lot of noise that only trolls will look for from the Nexon Forums
  
  2) Raise a lot of hellfire on the Nexon Forums and get banned from their forums (at the very least offense) and they probably won't change.
  
  3) Quit Mabinogi in mass so only a very small portion remains and mabye Nexon will get a clue then.
  
  Frankly I want this mess to die already. Go raise a ruckus on Nexon Forums if it matters that much to you.
  
  *sigh*
  
  I honestly don't use the wiki except for recipes and I may as well just copy that stuff off. I occasionally look at released weapon upgrades now and then to see what's available or I experiment on my own.
  
  So for me this wiki hellfire and issue is of no concern of mine.
  
  Plus I'm not a competitive gamer so it doesn't matter to me if the "hidden" data values are off by a certain amount as long as the core information is there I'm good.

  
  

  
  It doesn't concerns me, so you should all stop talking about it

  
  
  That sounds kind of selfish bro, just saying
• Maenad wrote on 2012-12-06 06:18
  The one thing we have to remember, while Nexon has zero obligation to tell the truth about anything, they have much obligation to lie in order to protect their image. A good example of such is when all posts regarding how Yoorah helped fix the G15 patch were deleted from Nexon Forums for no reason whatsoever.
• Zyferous wrote on 2012-12-06 07:33
  Idea: Change forum name to name of known hackers that you'd like to see banned and post about data mining? :D?
• Taycat wrote on 2012-12-06 07:35

  Quote from Zyferous;992981:

  Idea: Change forum name to name of known hackers that you'd like to see banned and post about data mining? :D?

  
  
  That's wrong.