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epichild wrote on 2012-12-02 20:58
They did rerealease Kartrider:
http://apps.facebook.com/kartriderdash?kt_type=partner&kt_st1=nexon&kt_st2=nexon.net&kt_st3=mainportal&campaign=nexon
The ticket thing sounds like they were just overconfident in their security system. They made announcements and password campaigns to correct that once they learned it was true.
We can go around looking for lies they've told for days, but that is beside the point. If they told someone that they were banned for data mining then that person should have a ticket response or email that they could post and prove it to us easily.
But for now I have to take some guesses as to who your guildmate was. This is the only person that is vocal about their ban and has used Data Mining as an excuse.
http://mabination.com/threads/63553-Bye
I can tell you right now that they did not get banned for Data Mining.
They were asked for proof countless of times. The most they have is someone that has some connection to Nexon told them, they could not even provide a name of the person.
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Claudia wrote on 2012-12-02 21:21
Well, what I personally think on the matter is that Indexu shouldn't have to or feel the need to justify himself to anyone.
I personally believe Indexu and I would wager a guess that many people here do as well, considering Indexu is a well-respected forumer who has contributed a lot to both this community and the Mabinogi community at large.
So whether you choose to or not, random lurker, is your problem.
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Maenad wrote on 2012-12-02 21:29
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Teemo wrote on 2012-12-02 21:31
Quote from Claudia;990645:
Well, what I personally think on the matter is that Indexu shouldn't have to or feel the need to justify himself to anyone.
I personally believe Indexu and I would wager a guess that many people here do as well, considering Indexu is a well-respected forumer who has contributed a lot to both this community and the Mabinogi community at large.
So whether you choose to or not, random lurker, is your problem.
this
you have like, what? 6 posts, some of us have gotten to know members pretty well, well enough to know they wouldn't lie.
They don't have to prove ANYTHING to you.
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BuckyballC60 wrote on 2012-12-02 21:59
Quote from Teemo;990652:
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you have like, what? 6 posts, some of us have gotten to know members pretty well, well enough to know they wouldn't lie.
They don't have to prove ANYTHING to you.
Trust me, there are things you know nothing about. I'm not here to drag any names through the mud though, so I won't say any more.
But if Nexon was lying about nobody being banned for wiki contributions, it would be very easy for anyone banned for that reason to disprove them by posting the ticket.
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Slayerj wrote on 2012-12-02 22:05
Quote from BuckyballC60;990669:
Trust me, there are things you know nothing about. I'm not here to drag any names through the mud though, so I won't say any more.
But if Nexon was lying about nobody being banned for wiki contributions, it would be very easy for anyone banned for that reason to disprove them by posting the ticket.
So, from that logic....
-Know someone for 10 years.
-They get accused of something and say they didn't do it.
-You stand behind them and believe them because you've known them so long.
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Random person that doesn't know either person to start with: There are things you know nothing about.
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-profi-er, logic?
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Nithiel wrote on 2012-12-02 22:34
Quote from Slayerj;990672:
So, from that logic....
-Know someone for 10 years.
-They get accused of something and say they didn't do it.
-You stand behind them and believe them because you've known them so long.
-Random person that doesn't know either person to start with: There are things you know nothing about.
-????
-profi-er, logic?
Don't you know? Random Nexon worshiping lurkers who know nothing about anyone on these forums, secretly know everything about everyone. They even know, for a fact, the private details not shared with anyone (because they don't exist) of our members' bans.
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Altava wrote on 2012-12-02 22:48
A company covering up the actions they've taken that would make them seem unpopular to more people?????
No never, that never happens.
Nope.
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BuckyballC60 wrote on 2012-12-02 22:58
Quote from Slayerj;990672:
So, from that logic....
-Know someone for 10 years.
-They get accused of something and say they didn't do it.
-You stand behind them and believe them because you've known them so long.
-Random person that doesn't know either person to start with: There are things you know nothing about.
-????
-profi-er, logic?
tl;dr pics or it didn't happen.
Mod Edit: Hey, here's an idea! How about you stay on topic and not try to bad mouth fellow Nationers just for the hell of it? The information in this post prior was unnecessary and contributed nothing of value to this discussion. Seize and desist from doing that again.
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Nithiel wrote on 2012-12-02 23:01
Quote from BuckyballC60;990703:
tl;dr pics or it didn't happen.
You two are the only ones who need pictures to believe him. So. Majority rules, no pictures needed. Hail democracy.
Oh, sorry. I forgot. Nexon worshipers don't believe in democracy, you prefer tyrannical dictatorships.
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BuckyballC60 wrote on 2012-12-02 23:08
Quote from Nithiel;990706:
You two are the only ones who need pictures to believe him. So. Majority rules, no pictures needed. Hail democracy.
Oh, sorry. I forgot. Nexon worshipers don't believe in democracy, you prefer tyrannical dictatorships.
I don't even play Nexon games anymore bro. Your assumptions are pretty flawed.
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MareneCorp wrote on 2012-12-02 23:19
Quote from epichild;990625:
They did rerealease Kartrider:
http://apps.facebook.com/kartriderdash?kt_type=partner&kt_st1=nexon&kt_st2=nexon.net&kt_st3=mainportal&campaign=nexon
That is the shittiest excuse of a game I've ever seen in my life.
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epichild wrote on 2012-12-02 23:20
Actually quite a few people in this thread were asking for proof.
http://forum2.nexon.net/showthread.php?626420-Odd-bannings-lately&nxid=10
Let me quote someone that summarized the thread.
Quote from Safari:
So can I clarify what I've gathered from this thread:
[1] Posting information contained within the live mabinogi servers is accepted. Both foreign servers and NA.
[2] Posting information contained within the test servers is prohibited.
[3] Luring sheep and spiders behind is not bannable.
[4] No one has been banned from editting the wiki or discussing things on a chat.
The information in that thread was given by Morbious17, who does not actually work for Nexon and is known as the voice of the players.
He has defied Sabina countless times by locking, sticking and removing threads for the sake of the players. So I don't see why he would lie about that, even if Sabina was trying to cover it up.
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radionoise wrote on 2012-12-02 23:59
Not sure why people keep arguing considering Osay stated his stance in his post and I doubt it had anything to do with anything I've said.
Secondly, @people making a ruckus, just talking about what happened in that one thread already got unrelated people close to me and even people that I don't know in trouble so I don't really care to talk more about the subject, considering I'm perfectly okay with the way things ended up. Nexon contacted me through a liaison in order to prevent me from divulging any more privileged information as well as to pinpoint their information leaks since they do need to protect their intellectual property, dunno how they ended up sorting things out on their end but it was a process that bothered unrelated people (besides those I happened to know, I also received messages through nation and Skype adds from people freaking out about the matter) so I'd rather not go through it again.
@BuckyballC60
This person and close friends of him do know me outside of mabi, but due to unrelated long passed personal disagreements will say anything to make things difficult if something involves me and they don't have to go out of their way for it. Whether others will find their opinion constructive or not is up to them.
@everyone else
I'm okay with what happened, those who know me also knew that I'd been planning to quit the day before g17s3 came out, since Mabi jumps the shark and most of the enjoyment these days comes from fishing AFK and discussing mechanics in this forums. All nexon did was cut those plans short a month or two, so it's not a big deal because I even got to try out the content I was missing on my girlfriend's character, which is practically a copy of my character.
What I think? I don't want anyone contacting me again and Osay said everything he felt about the matter unrelated to me or anyone, so trying to argue one way or the other is just gonna waste time.
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Xemnas wrote on 2012-12-03 01:43
I just came back to say I told you guys stuff like this would happen