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Chihaya wrote on 2012-12-03 02:23
I would laugh so much if epichild and BuckyballC60's characters were suddenly banned for no reason.
But then again, they spread their legs for the tyrant, so the chances of that are pretty slim.
Hey, don't get me wrong; I genuinely had no expectations for NA Mabi; all they do is make horrible translations and break something once they manage to fix another. This is what happens to all forms of localization, so I'm not surprised.
What I am surprised about is that the above two players still have hope in Nexon. It's only a matter of time until their hopes are crushed, so let's all leave them alone.
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December wrote on 2012-12-03 02:34
Quote from epichild;990723:
Actually quite a few people in this thread were asking for proof.
http://forum2.nexon.net/showthread.php?626420-Odd-bannings-lately&nxid=10
Let me quote someone that summarized the thread.
The information in that thread was given by Morbious17, who does not actually work for Nexon and is known as the voice of the players.
He has defied Sabina countless times by locking, sticking and removing threads for the sake of the players. So I don't see why he would lie about that, even if Sabina was trying to cover it up.
You're quoting me there, I want a Nexon employee to clarify that.
As you said, Morbious17 is
not a Nexon employee, meaning he doesn't get information about Nexon workings - he's not in the loop. Furthermore, anything he says probably doesn't have to be upheld by Nexon. In fact, Sabina statements don't always get up held - she said he would be the Shadow Clone skill and there were no plans to add reforge kits.
Voice of the people? Ha! He hardly represents any of the concerns I hold, not to mention resolve any. His title is "Sabina's Senior Minion" for christ sake, he's just something like an overworked forum monitor that doesn't get paid. Just look at the thread, all he said was more or less Keep Calm Carry On. I don't see why Sabina herself couldn't respond on the thread.
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BuckyballC60 wrote on 2012-12-03 03:50
Quote from Chihaya;990842:
I would laugh so much if epichild and BuckyballC60's characters were suddenly banned for no reason.
But then again, they spread their legs for the tyrant, so the chances of that are pretty slim.
Hey, don't get me wrong; I genuinely had no expectations for NA Mabi; all they do is make horrible translations and break something once they manage to fix another. This is what happens to all forms of localization, so I'm not surprised.
What I am surprised about is that the above two players still have hope in Nexon. It's only a matter of time until their hopes are crushed, so let's all leave them alone.
Personally, I wouldn't mind one of those billing refund bans. Christmas steam sales are coming up soon, so the extra dosh would be nice.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2012-12-03 06:31
To whichever nexon staffer that is going to read this since i know you do late night fansite prowls.
I have pictures of every ticket that was mass banned during the wiki escapade. And they all said the account would not be released due to malicious activities.
Now if NONE of them know what they did wrong in that ban, how do you prevent such occurance from happening again.
It would be quite in your favor if you let us in on your banning process and publicize it like Maplestory does.
Also it seems from looking at forum mods, you removed Kitten, i do not know the reasonin behind it but i suspect my own.
And if i suddenly get banned, a shit storm will happen and you will be unable to stop it.
Data mining is not a hostile act, just relax and let the players be, quelling information is like China.
Just let the players be.
And lets not get started on Mods that are assigned other forums that are asserting their power on ours.
This is the last i will discuss on this matter, because im absolutely tired of rumors and misinformation, if you want all of this to stop, spend an entire day on PR and host questions and answers for the public.
Everyone wins, people get to relax and enjoy the company.
Also, whatever malicious activity they did, IT HAD BETTER BE FUCKING WORSE THAN ELF/DK STACKING, BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE STILL NOT FUCKING BANNED YET.
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XIII wrote on 2012-12-03 07:50
This incident is quite sad to be honest. No one can say that Nexon did this in the most mature way possible (because they didn't). Test beta information should either be public, so that everyone could see, or that no one could see.
Banning people won't resolve the matter, as it only feeds the hateful flame grow bigger, besides there was a really easy fix; nexon na could just stay fully caught up and nothing would be spoiled to anyone.. But obviously (I know people will argue this against me) Nexon na is not really diligent with their patches and "translating" takes too long.
As for last words, nexon you dun goofed and i hope you realise it and fix it before you lose your valuable player base, Also best wishes to those wrongfully banned though, I hope you receive the proper compensation.
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epichild wrote on 2012-12-03 07:52
Quote from Aubog007;990941:
To whichever nexon staffer that is going to read this since i know you do late night fansite prowls.
I have pictures of every ticket that was mass banned during the wiki escapade. And they all said the account would not be released due to malicious activities.
Now if NONE of them know what they did wrong in that ban, how do you prevent such occurance from happening again.
It would be quite in your favor if you let us in on your banning process and publicize it like Maplestory does.
Quote from Aubog007;990941:
This is the last i will discuss on this matter, because im absolutely tired of rumors and misinformation, if you want all of this to stop, spend an entire day on PR and host questions and answers for the public.
Everyone wins, people get to relax and enjoy the company.
Well actually other than Indexu, the other banned players have admitted to their "malicious" activity. So there is only one that
supposedly does not know what they did.
Why are they still playing if they are permabanned? Isn't that ban-dodging?
I suggest you just wait and see what they do. I think that notice was just the beginning.
Quote from Aubog007;990941:
Also it seems from looking at forum mods, you removed Kitten, i do not know the reasonin behind it but i suspect my own.
And if i suddenly get banned, a shit storm will happen and you will be unable to stop it.
Data mining is not a hostile act, just relax and let the players be, quelling information is like China.
Just let the players be.
And lets not get started on Mods that are assigned other forums that are asserting their power on ours.
I didn't notice Kitten was gone. What happened to her?
What mods that are assigned to other forums have been messing on ours?
Quote from Aubog007;990941:
Also, whatever malicious activity they did, IT HAD BETTER BE FUCKING WORSE THAN ELF/DK STACKING, BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE STILL NOT FUCKING BANNED YET.
A pretty well known stacker was permanently banned on my server, maybe you should file a ticket to get the ones on your server checked out.
XIII as far as I can see none of the newly banned players are innocent in any way, they all deserved to be banned and I thank Nexon for finally doing it.
You like most people posting on this thread seem confused about what Nexon is prohibiting.
You are allowed to talk about unreleased content from other servers and their test servers. However, you cannot data mine any of the test servers and posting that sort information on Nexon forums gets you banned from
the forums.
By those rules, staying caught up really does not help anything.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2012-12-03 10:32
To what happened with Kitten, i do not know, but peruse tarlach forums and talk to someone ingame for that information, if the same person that noted me was Kitten, i surely know why, and out of respect i will not divulge personal information.
After showing the people who got the same ticket counter evidence, they all retracted their claims of maliciousness.
Please note i have sent countless reports on the stackers on our servers, reports on daisama, etc
When Daisama thouroughly trashed our server, his penalty was a temp ban, he was only faux banned when he had two elsnoires.
Faux in the sense that i was there listening to the calls on skype when it happened, a Gm came up and banned him, IT FAILED because he broke the game so badly, that when he was faux banned, it made it CRASH any channel he decided to log on to.
I was fortunate to know when he would strike, and that is why in 2011 ch 1 was the only channel left for a while.
Daisama still prowls nexon forums, he posted there last week and noone even knew it was him.
There are people still blackrobed by his antics.
There is not a person on tarlach that has been around during the era of daisama that believe nexon actually will ban hackers and stackers rightfully or even at all.
Prove us wrong nexon, countless reports have been sent.
Prove. Us. Wrong.
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BuckyballC60 wrote on 2012-12-03 16:37
Quote from Aubog007;991009:
After showing the people who got the same ticket counter evidence, they all retracted their claims of maliciousness.
"Yes I was exploiting________. What? They didn't specifically ban me for that malicious activity? UNBAN ME PLEASE I AM COMPLETELY INNOCENT NEXON IS WORSE THAN HITLER"
What?
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Nithiel wrote on 2012-12-03 16:51
Quote from BuckyballC60;991098:
"NEXON IS WORSE THAN HITLER"
Yes, yes they are.
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BuckyballC60 wrote on 2012-12-03 16:56
Quote from Nithiel;991101:
Yes, yes they are.
I hope you're not being completely sincere. Otherwise I would have to really worry about you
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Teemo wrote on 2012-12-03 17:04
Quote from BuckyballC60;991104:
I hope you're not being completely sincere. Otherwise I would have to really worry about you
let's not turn this thread into a discussion about the holocaust
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Kitten wrote on 2012-12-03 18:17
Threads like this are why its being treated unofficial. If you own a site that has a clean slate, I am pretty sure you can get it back up there by using that email. Fansites should not have conflicting TOS and should be treated as a player-owned extension of the main site (This bit is pure opinion). I dont fully agree with the actions though.
So no, don't mine all the data you want.
Just biting yourself by breaking the rules on purpose.
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Cynic wrote on 2012-12-03 18:25
Quote from Kitten;991126:
Threads like this are why its being treated unofficial. If you own a site that has a clean slate, I am pretty sure you can get it back up there by using that email. Fansites should not have conflicting TOS and should be treated as a player-owned extension of the main site (This bit is pure opinion). I dont fully agree with the actions though.
So no, don't mine all the data you want.
Just biting yourself by breaking the rules on purpose.
So if a rule was made telling you not to breathe.. you'd say it's stupid to break it simply because it's a rule?
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Osayidan wrote on 2012-12-03 18:28
Quote from Kitten;991126:
Threads like this are why its being treated unofficial. If you own a site that has a clean slate, I am pretty sure you can get it back up there by using that email. Fansites should not have conflicting TOS and should be treated as a player-owned extension of the main site (This bit is pure opinion). I dont fully agree with the actions though.
So no, don't mine all the data you want.
Just biting yourself by breaking the rules on purpose.
No, nexon can go fuck themselves.
This is a mabinogi fansite, not a nexon fansite.
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Nithiel wrote on 2012-12-03 18:44
Quote from Osayidan;991132:
No, nexon can go fuck themselves.
This is a mabinogi fansite, not a nexon fansite.
Why can't I rep this post more then once?