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Milk wrote on 2012-12-05 18:51
Quote from radionoise;992445:
Except I never had DK elf/pake/exploitation, inappropriate names, etc but okay. And everything else I've posted is indeed correct, as all PTS members do know. Even Osay could read my nation inbox for PTS people contacting me if he so desired.
Why don't you just post the conversation yourself?
Nexon is calling you a liar so why not just show the prof that says otherwise and you never posted any physical prof for the exact reason why you got banned yourself.
As for "Araria of Ruairi" I don't think she ever claimed that she was banned for data mining.
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radionoise wrote on 2012-12-05 18:52
Quote from Milk;992453:
Why don't you just post the conversation yourself?
Nexon is calling you a liar so why not just show the prof that says otherwise and you never posted any physical prof for the exact reason why you got banned yourself.
As for "Araria of Ruairi" I don't think she ever claimed that she was banned for data mining.
Because every time I discuss my banning I seem to put people I know that are close to the matter in trouble or treathened and I'm tired of that + there's nothing to gain.
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Taycat wrote on 2012-12-05 18:59
Quote from Milk;992453:
As for "Araria of Ruairi" I don't think she ever claimed that she was banned for data mining.
She didn't, she just didn't know why she was banned. She thought it was because of a failed credit card.
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Cynic wrote on 2012-12-05 19:04
I love how they claim that most players are making excuses for themselves, when in reality Nexon are the only ones making excuses.
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Milk wrote on 2012-12-05 19:08
Quote from radionoise;992454:
Because every time I discuss my banning I seem to put people I know that are close to the matter in trouble or treathened and I'm tired of that + there's nothing to gain.
Physical proof would be something like nexon's reply to your appeal (if it stated the actual reason instead of saying "this account was banned because of malicious activities" or w.e. Or maybe just posting what a Nexon employee said to you on the matter that may have suggested that "Data Mining" was the reason for your ban. All we can assume is that the data mining incident brought attention to your account. Though the exact reason why your account was banned could possibly be for a number of other reasons.
The only thing you can gain by showing us prof is the value of your words. This whole situation has brought up a lot of anger and confusion.
You can either prove that your word is the truth and Nexon Mabinogi Team is just lying or stay quite and let this whole mess die down eventually.
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radionoise wrote on 2012-12-05 19:17
Quote from Milk;992466:
Physical proof would be something like nexon's reply to your appeal (if it stated the actual reason instead of saying "this account was banned because of malicious activities" or w.e. Or maybe just posting what a Nexon employee said to you on the matter that may have suggested that "Data Mining" was the reason for your ban. All we can assume is that the data mining incident brought attention to your account. Though the exact reason why your account was banned could possibly be for a number of other reasons.
The only thing you can gain by showing us prof is the value of your words. This whole situation has brought up a lot of anger and confusion.
You can either prove that your word is the truth and Nexon Mabinogi Team is just lying or stay quite and let this whole mess die down eventually.
The physical proof is what happened, which the people involved already know.
Because saying "data mining has nothing to do with it" is the same as "because of your data mining we investigated your account and banned it, or better yet we banned it for using tiara and running two different nexon games or the same game on separate computers and we can use that as a perfectly valid reason for permaban!".
Either you say "data mining has nothing to do with it" or "data mining will get you investigated and we'll be INCREDIBLY anal about anything we find if we don't ban you for the mining itself" but you don't get to say one while meaning the other.
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Milk wrote on 2012-12-05 19:34
Quote from radionoise;992474:
The physical proof is what happened, which the people involved already know.
Because saying "data mining has nothing to do with it" is the same as "because of your data mining we investigated your account and banned it, or better yet we banned it for using tiara and running two different nexon games or the same game on separate computers and we can use that as a perfectly valid reason for permaban!".
Either you say "data mining has nothing to do with it" or "data mining will get you investigated and we'll be INCREDIBLY anal about anything we find if we don't ban you for the mining itself" but you don't get to say one while meaning the other.
This whole situation can come down to the very nitty detail. Though you may be telling the truth, Nexon could always just turn it around and say that they had banned you for a completely different reason. But in the end being called out as a "Data Miner" on a website not runned by Nexon themselves did lead to your banning but it was not the official reason why you were "permanently banned."
I realize that this is your own personal business, that you have nothing to prove to us, and I respect the fact that you don't wish to be the reason why certain others may suffer a similar faith.
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Nithiel wrote on 2012-12-05 19:39
Quote from Milk;992482:
This whole situation can come down to the very nitty detail. Though you may be telling the truth, Nexon could always just turn it around and say that they had banned you for a completely different reason. But in the end being called out as a "Data Miner" on a website not runned by Nexon themselves did lead to your banning but it was not the official reason why you were "permanently banned."
That's why Nexon is Hitler.
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Claudia wrote on 2012-12-05 19:39
I love how they named people, 3 (possibly 4?) of whom are/were members.
Stay classy, Nexon.
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Shinespike wrote on 2012-12-05 19:41
Maybe a screenshot/youtube video of you is showing that you're using mods. That's enough to get permabanned based on Sabina's post.
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epichild wrote on 2012-12-05 19:41
Try again. This is the multi-clienting they banned for.
Quote from Sabina;5451620:
Running two Mabinogi clients on the same computer. This is only possible by modifying the client.
How about proving it to everyone else because those that are "involved" have not come up and defended you.
All these players have is your word which is not the most reliable even your "Bye" thread contained a multitude of incorrect information.
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Kyubey wrote on 2012-12-05 19:47
Quote from epichild;992491:
Try again. This is the multi-clienting they banned for.
Multi client is the stupidiest reason to ban a person as the only thing nexon will detect is 2 equal IPs. Which can be for any reason such as running mabi in 2 different computers.
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Code2008 wrote on 2012-12-05 19:47
Quote from Claudia;992486:
I love how they named people, 3 (possibly 4?) of whom are/were members.
Stay classy, Nexon.
I don't see them naming anybody?
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epichild wrote on 2012-12-05 19:54
Quote from Kyubey;992497:
Multi client is the stupidiest reason to ban a person as the only thing nexon will detect is 2 equal IPs. Which can be for any reason such as running mabi in 2 different computers.
You can trace an IP to the actual computer used. I don't know what Nexon used but each person mentioned were guilty of at least two of the things mentioned.
Even if you do not agree with multi-clienting as a reason to ban don't forget they broke other rules as well.
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Nithiel wrote on 2012-12-05 19:54
Quote from Code2008;992499:
I don't see them naming anybody?
Then read it again? It's right there in the quote.
Quote from epichild;992503:
Each person mentioned were guilty of at least two of the things mentioned so even if you do not agree with multi-clienting as a reason to ban don't forget they broke other rules as well.
Or so they claim. But Nexon is well known for their lies and 'silencing' nonbelievers.