Your thoughts on Mods.

• Finnea wrote on 2010-08-09 17:14

  Quote from paladin;119059:

  
  Things like sog,pe is where people begin to put mods as evil
  

  
  
  The problem is these aren't mods. Unless you want to be super technical to the dictionary definition.
• Intex wrote on 2010-08-09 17:23

  I don't mod. I don't approve of mods. Not even client-based mods that change features like the font style and character appearance. All mods give the player an unfair advantage, (ie: a player with standard font would lag. A modder would not). If you've played any amount of Xbox LIVE, you would at least understand my viewpoint.

  
  Yeah when I can't open my character window in a dungeon and a West Coast person doesn't even have elf ranged lag.
  West Coast people have an unfair advantage too.
  
  Anyone saying they can play fine without font mods, lucky you.
  Like Osayidan, I would have quit soon after I started because of the lagging.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-08-09 17:32

  Quote from Finnea;119062:

  The problem is these aren't mods. Unless you want to be super technical to the dictionary definition.

  
  
  Mods is short for modification though.
  
  I don't get how some of you say macro is good, but PE is bad. What happens if PE is used to macro?
  
  Thankfully, hackshield still works in stopping majority of the people in terms of using whatever mods they want, and limiting that kind of power to only the small few that keeps it absolutely secret so the rest of the population can either wonder about it forever, complain about it, and/or not even know about it forever.
  
  There are many many mods out there being used. However, most of these mods are mods that you don't know about it, and it doesn't really affect you at all.
  
  Yes, in terms of breaking the rules, all mods are illegal.
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-08-09 19:25

  Quote from EndlessDreams;119081:

  Mods is short for modification though.
  
  I don't get how some of you say macro is good, but PE is bad. What happens if PE is used to macro?
  
  Thankfully, hackshield still works in stopping majority of the people in terms of using whatever mods they want, and limiting that kind of power to only the small few that keeps it absolutely secret so the rest of the population can either wonder about it forever, complain about it, and/or not even know about it forever.
  
  There are many many mods out there being used. However, most of these mods are mods that you don't know about it, and it doesn't really affect you at all.
  
  Yes, in terms of breaking the rules, all mods are illegal.

  
  
  In terms of breaking the rules, a lot of other things are also illegal, like having mule accounts, which a lot of people do.
  
  You could call that an unfair advantage as well, but I don't see anyone complaining about how other people have mule accounts.
• Serathx wrote on 2010-08-09 19:38

  Quote from Intex;119073:

  
  West Coast people have an unfair advantage too.
  

  
  
  Depends on your internet and computer. I have an old Toshiba and AT&Fail,
  and my network is extremely crappy without the tons and tons of lag fixes I've used for Mabi.
  I live near San Francisco as well.
• Cannibal wrote on 2010-08-09 19:42
  Yeah, I would NEVER play Mabi if there weren't lag fixes that required mods. East coast lags, stupid laptop and crappy ISP... super lags for me.
• Deitylight wrote on 2010-08-09 22:26
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• Chiri wrote on 2010-08-09 22:33
  I use mods. I respect those who use them and those who don't-- granted they don't start disrupting the game.
  I've talked to people who like to blame everything on "filthy modders" and it's like... seriously? The 1.0 diamonds come from monkeys, not some mod. Get off of your high horse.
• Andy-Buddy wrote on 2010-08-09 22:43
  I think we should clear this up.
  
  SoG, Shot of God:
  A glitch in animation, when you release an arrow at a certain point, you get a certain distance at any distance. (I believe) It has been confirmed with KR "Errinn Walker," but I cannot verify. It is a glitch.
  
  God Shot, or B-Shot:
  1. A modification of a DLL, allowing for the maximum % possible for a shot. (i.e. if you are an elf, running, you get a 50% shot immediately, and if you are standing, 90%, or 80%, respectively for walking and running)
  2. A PE, slow, and sends out arrows at one enemy at a time. It is slow and cumbersome, unlike the DLL mod.
  
  Of course, this might be outdated.
• Finnea wrote on 2010-08-09 22:48

  Quote from EndlessDreams;119081:

  Mods is short for modification though.

  
  
  That's what I was getting at when talking about literal terms. There are two ways to define a word:
  
  Denotative: Literal or dictionary definition
  
  Connotative: Emotional or implied meaning
  
  My denotative meaning for mods would be modification, something that changes the game. However my connotative meaning for mods would be server side manipulation of the game. This is just me though =s
• Serathx wrote on 2010-08-09 22:49
  If I am correct, the edit for 100% aiming was patched?
  Well, someone might have made a new one and just kept it to themselves.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-08-09 23:02

  Quote from Kazuni;119146:

  In terms of breaking the rules, a lot of other things are also illegal, like having mule accounts, which a lot of people do.
  
  You could call that an unfair advantage as well, but I don't see anyone complaining about how other people have mule accounts.

  
  
  I don't know about that. I see people complaining having a few mule accounts in a party doing stuff that people normally can't do alone.
  Basically, there are always complainers for practically everything.
  
  

  Quote from Finnea;119350:

  That's what I was getting at when talking about literal terms. There are two ways to define a word:
  
  Denotative: Literal or dictionary definition
  
  Connotative: Emotional or implied meaning
  
  My denotative meaning for mods would be modification, something that changes the game. However my connotative meaning for mods would be server side manipulation of the game. This is just me though =s

  
  
  Maybe for you, and maybe a few others who doesn't seem to understand the word "mods".
  However, the word "mods" is more commonly used to describe just about anything in terms of modifying the game.
  
  Also, I don't see how you even come up with server side manipulation from the word mods for the "implied" meaning. If you argue that the connotation of mods is usually negative, you would have made a better argument than trying to redefine the word to something very narrow.
  
  Yes, Shot of God has been patched. Funny how people are still clinging on the old outdated mods for bad examples of mods. Why don't you people use some more modern modifications used by others that is actually affecting your gameplay?
  
  How about something like Sitting on Rafting River and attacking your monsters. Oh wait, that is just a glitch by the game when you disconnect on raft.
• Finnea wrote on 2010-08-09 23:11
  I don't think you've been reading very well.. o.o I said TO ME. Besides most modifications to the game are simply client sided, thereby they don't affect other players directly. It's possible to have the same word and have two meanings you know. I'm sure you can think of an example.
  
  If someone would back up my post that would be nice, I'm in no mood for long posts. I might be rushed away soon.
  
  EDIT: I am going to be gone now, so it'd be nice.
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-08-09 23:53

  Quote from Finnea;119366:

  I don't think you've been reading very well.. o.o I said TO ME. Besides most modifications to the game are simply server sided, thereby they don't affect other players directly. It's possible to have the same word and have two meanings you know. I'm sure you can think of an example.
  
  If someone would back up my post that would be nice, I'm in no mood for long posts. I might be rushed away soon.
  
  EDIT: I am going to be gone now, so it'd be nice.

  
  
  It's like the class system before it got an overhaul. People were complaining about how others got advantages (in classes), but also didn't want to stay in adventurer class when they could easily get the same advantages by choosing a class.
  
  What other people have doesn't affect you, but one can feel like it's quite unfair. :l
• User495 wrote on 2010-08-09 23:56

  Quote from Swordslayer;119017:

  If the mods fix the game, then good. But I don't like it when they takeaway gameplay. When ppl can see which chests are mimics, and can automatically attack them... yea you kill faster, but it ruins a little part of the game. Also CP is stupid. Many ppl use it as a way to judge ppl's "pro ness," it gets annoying lol.

  
  
  yeah <-< I want to pretend to be a noob and see the true sides to people (those that judge by looks)
  
  
  

  Quote from Finnea;119366:

  I don't think you've been reading very well.. o.o I said TO ME. Besides most modifications to the game are simply server sided, thereby they don't affect other players directly. It's possible to have the same word and have two meanings you know. I'm sure you can think of an example.
  
  If someone would back up my post that would be nice, I'm in no mood for long posts. I might be rushed away soon.
  
  EDIT: I am going to be gone now, so it'd be nice.

  
  
  and I'm assuming you mean Client-sided
  cause Server-side affects all clients as Client side is just the player/client <-<
  
  I've used mods once, only for the font thing
  but it came in a bundle ; -; so I gave that up
  
  I haven't thought of the mods anymore now that the character menus doesn't lag anymore (but for some reason pet menu still does)