[KR TEST] Armor masteries and stat/skill rebalancing

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ironwoman wrote on 2013-03-20 21:14

[SPOILER="Spoiler"]
Healing skills will be changed
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The amount healed will be displayed when using healing or party healing skill.
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The amount healed will be displayed when a nimbus has been summoned
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The amount healed by a life potion will be displayed
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~Bug fixes relating to drama missions~
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Filia and Vales will be redesigned
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The design and location of certain buildings will be changed
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The entrances of Filia and Vales will have a gate-like decoration
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The location of certain NPCs will be changed slightly
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B-bombs will now stack upto 1000
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The following will apply when logging in into the test server:
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R1 for all skills related to the destiny chosen
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R1 Shield Mastery
- ì‹¤ë“œ ë§ˆìŠ¤í„°ë¦¬ ìŠ¤í‚¬ 1ëží¬
R1 Heavy Armor Mastery (not applicable to elves)
- í—¤ë¹„ ì•„ë¨¸ ë§ˆìŠ¤í„°ë¦¬ ìŠ¤í‚¬ 1ëží¬(ì—˜í”„ ìºë¦í„°ëŠ” ì§€ê¸‰ë˜ì§€ ì•ŠìŠµë‹ˆë‹¤.)
R1 Light Armor Mastery (not applicable to giants)
- ë¼ì´íŠ¸ ì•„ë¨¸ ë§ˆìŠ¤í„°ë¦¬ ìŠ¤í‚¬ 1ëží¬(ìžì´ì–¸íŠ¸ ìºë¦í„°ëŠ” ì§€ê¸‰ë˜ì§€ ì•ŠìŠµë‹ˆë‹¤.)
All Skill Untrain/Reset Capsule
- ì˜¬ ìŠ¤í‚¬ ì–¸íŠ¸ë ˆì¸ ìº¡ìŠ 1ê°œ
AP 1000 Potion
- AP 1000 í¬ì…˜
The above however, will only apply to the first login.
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TL;DR
So pretty much same as the guy said. However, note that dex gives out defense piercing only. Much different from lance piercing.
ironwoman wrote on 2013-03-20 21:18

Nevermind, he already stated it in one of his posts. Just a fyi for people that didn't read.

And also wandering, why is this new patch not friendly for lancers anymore? I don't see how this can't be a boost, aside from the fact that you could lose defense piercing from the dex loss from heavy armors. Even without that boost, wouldn't piercing from lance already be stronger than clothing set even without dex penalty?
mageisfun wrote on 2013-03-20 21:23

I didn't read much of the thread, so anything I wanna know, I'm just gonna ask those of you have read the majority or then entire thread.

What stats do shield, light and heavy armor mastery add?

How much dex do you lose when you wear heavy armor?

Are all alchemy crystals except cloud crystals now going to be useless when this comes out?

So hp/mp/sp all add damage to alchemy now?

Thanks.
ca25nada wrote on 2013-03-20 21:30

Quote from mageisfun;1052547:
I didn't read much of the thread, so anything I wanna know, I'm just gonna ask those of you have read the majority or then entire thread.

What stats do shield, light and heavy armor mastery add?

How much dex do you lose when you wear heavy armor?

Are all alchemy crystals except cloud crystals now going to be useless when this comes out?

So hp/mp/sp all add damage to alchemy now?

Thanks.

1. Absolutely none (assuming you're talking about bonus stats).
2. 50% at rank F down to 35% at rank 1
3. I do not know how pre-existing alchemy crystals will be treated once this gets implemented orz.
4. One of Hp/Mp/Sp will add damage depending on the skill (eg: stamina for sand burst, mana for shock, etc.)
radionoise wrote on 2013-03-20 21:32

Quote from ironwoman;1052540:
And also wandering, why is this new patch not friendly for lancers anymore? I don't see how this can't be a boost, aside from the fact that you could lose defense piercing from the dex loss from heavy armors. Even without that boost, wouldn't piercing from lance already be stronger than clothing set even without dex penalty?

Because according to one of marle's posts a few pages ago, there's a new damage formula. The new damage formula would make high protection less effective and the lowering of protection would in turn be less effective as well, if it is correct.
M wrote on 2013-03-20 21:34

Sounds like an overcomplicated new formula lol
mageisfun wrote on 2013-03-20 21:36

How much def/prot do the new masteries add?
BecomeMeguca wrote on 2013-03-20 21:37

Please don't give heavy armor accessories. That would make cloth armor USELESS
M wrote on 2013-03-20 21:39

Quote from BecomeMeguca;1052555:
Please don't give heavy armor accessories. That would make cloth armor USELESS

Cloth armor is still good for set bonuses and like light armor, neither have the dex penalty.
ironwoman wrote on 2013-03-20 21:39

Quote from radionoise;1052550:
Because according to one of marle's posts a few pages ago, there's a new damage formula. The new damage formula would make high protection less effective and the lowering of protection would in turn be less effective as well, if it is correct.

Can you redirect me to Marle's formula then? I can't find it. Lances still do more damage in general than other melee weapons right? I'm assuming the penetration will still have good effect. If not, I regret making a lance recently :u
Akutare wrote on 2013-03-20 21:39

Quote from mageisfun;1052554:
How much def/prot do the new masteries add?

Quote from ca25nada;1052087:
The new mastery skills are surprisingly low (...) in AP requirements as of right now.

[Image: http://i.imgur.com/4u1k4Ms.png]

Heavy Armor Mastery
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]
Novice?
AP: 0 / Skill CP: 0 / Phys.Def Bonus 1 / Phys.Prot Bonus 1 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Knockdown Resist +1% /Can use 0 Accessory / Dex -50%
Rank: F
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 2 / Phys.Def Bonus 1 / Phys.Prot Bonus 1 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Knockdown Resist +1% /Can use 0 Accessory / Dex -50%
Rank: E
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 5 / Phys.Def Bonus 2 / Phys.Prot Bonus 1 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Knockdown Resist +1% /Can use 0 Accessory / Dex -50%
Rank: D
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 10 / Phys.Def Bonus 3 / Phys.Prot Bonus 2 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Knockdown Resist +1% /Can use 0 Accessory / Dex -50%
Rank: C
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 15 / Phys.Def Bonus 4 / Phys.Prot Bonus 2 / Magic Def Bonus 1 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Knockdown Resist +2% /Can use 0 Accessory / Dex -50%
Rank: B
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 20 / Phys.Def Bonus 5 / Phys.Prot Bonus 3 / Magic Def Bonus 1 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Knockdown Resist +2% /Can use 0 Accessory / Dex -50%
Rank: A
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 25 / Phys.Def Bonus 6 / Phys.Prot Bonus 3 / Magic Def Bonus 2 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Knockdown Resist +2% /Can use 0 Accessory / Dex -50%
Rank: 9
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 30 / Phys.Def Bonus 8 / Phys.Prot Bonus 5 / Magic Def Bonus 2 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Knockdown Resist +3% /Can use 1 Accessory / Dex -45%
Rank: 8
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 35 / Phys.Def Bonus 9 / Phys.Prot Bonus 5 / Magic Def Bonus 3 / Magic Prot Bonus 1 / Knockdown Resist +3% /Can use 1 Accessory / Dex -45%
Rank: 7
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 40 / Phys.Def Bonus 10 / Phys.Prot Bonus 6 / Magic Def Bonus 3 / Magic Prot Bonus 1 / Knockdown Resist +3% /Can use 1 Accessory / Dex -45%
Rank: 6
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 45 / Phys.Def Bonus 11 / Phys.Prot Bonus 6 / Magic Def Bonus 4 / Magic Prot Bonus 1 / Knockdown Resist +4% /Can use 1 Accessory / Dex -45%
Rank: 5
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 50 / Phys.Def Bonus 12 / Phys.Prot Bonus 7 / Magic Def Bonus 5 / Magic Prot Bonus 2 / Knockdown Resist +4% /Can use 1 Accessories / Dex -40%
Rank: 4
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 55 / Phys.Def Bonus 14 / Phys.Prot Bonus 7 / Magic Def Bonus 6 / Magic Prot Bonus 2 / Knockdown Resist +4% /Can use 1 Accessories / Dex -40%
Rank: 3
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 60 / Phys.Def Bonus 16 / Phys.Prot Bonus 8 / Magic Def Bonus 7 / Magic Prot Bonus 3 / Knockdown Resist +5% /Can use 2 Accessories / Dex -40%
Rank: 2
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 65 / Phys.Def Bonus 18 / Phys.Prot Bonus 9 / Magic Def Bonus 8 / Magic Prot Bonus 4 / Knockdown Resist +5% /Can use 2 Accessories / Dex -40%
Rank: 1
AP: 3 / Skill CP: 80 / Phys.Def Bonus 20 / Phys.Prot Bonus 10 / Magic Def Bonus 10 / Magic Prot Bonus 5 / Knockdown Resist +6% /Can use 2 Accessories / Dex -35%[/SPOILER]

[Image: http://i.imgur.com/SoZrtx7.png]

Light Armor Mastery
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]
Novice?
AP: 0 / Skill CP: 0 / Phys.Def Bonus 0 / Phys.Prot Bonus 0 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 /Can use 1 Accessory
Rank: F
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 2 / Phys.Def Bonus 1 / Phys.Prot Bonus 0 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 /Can use 1 Accessory
Rank: E
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 5 / Phys.Def Bonus 1 / Phys.Prot Bonus 0 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 /Can use 1 Accessory
Rank: D
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 10 / Phys.Def Bonus 2 / Phys.Prot Bonus 0 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 /Can use 1 Accessory
Rank: C
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 15 / Phys.Def Bonus 2 / Phys.Prot Bonus 1 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 /Can use 1 Accessory
Rank: B
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 20 / Phys.Def Bonus 3 / Phys.Prot Bonus 1 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0/Can use 1Accessory
Rank: A
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 25 / Phys.Def Bonus 3 / Phys.Prot Bonus 1 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 /Can use 1 Accessory
Rank: 9
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 30 / Phys.Def Bonus 4 / Phys.Prot Bonus 2 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 /Can use 1 Accessory
Rank: 8
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 35 / Phys.Def Bonus 5 / Phys.Prot Bonus 2 / Magic Def Bonus 1 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 /Can use 1 Accessory
Rank: 7
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 40 / Phys.Def Bonus 6 / Phys.Prot Bonus 2 / Magic Def Bonus 2 / Magic Prot Bonus 1 /Can use 2 Accessories
Rank: 6
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 45 / Phys.Def Bonus 6 / Phys.Prot Bonus 3 / Magic Def Bonus 3 / Magic Prot Bonus 1 /Can use 2 Accessories
Rank: 5
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 50 / Phys.Def Bonus 7 / Phys.Prot Bonus 3 / Magic Def Bonus 4 / Magic Prot Bonus 1 /Can use 2 Accessories
Rank: 4
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 55 / Phys.Def Bonus 7 / Phys.Prot Bonus 3 / Magic Def Bonus 5 / Magic Prot Bonus 2 /Can use 2 Accessories
Rank: 3
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 60 / Phys.Def Bonus 8 / Phys.Prot Bonus 4 / Magic Def Bonus 6 / Magic Prot Bonus 2 /Can use 2 Accessories
Rank: 2
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 65 / Phys.Def Bonus 8 / Phys.Prot Bonus 4 / Magic Def Bonus 7 / Magic Prot Bonus 2 /Can use 2 Accessories
Rank: 1
AP: 3 / Skill CP: 80 / Phys.Def Bonus 10 / Phys.Prot Bonus 5 / Magic Def Bonus 8 / Magic Prot Bonus 3 / Can use 2 Accessories[/SPOILER]

[Image: http://i.imgur.com/Cql8Rbr.png]

Shield Mastery
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]Novice?
AP: 0 / Skill CP: 0 / Phys.Def Bonus 1 / Phys.Prot Bonus 0 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Auto Def 2%
Rank: F
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 10 / Phys.Def Bonus 5 / Phys.Prot Bonus 1 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Auto Def 3%
Rank: E
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 15 / Phys.Def Bonus 7 / Phys.Prot Bonus 2 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Auto Def 3%
Rank: D
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 20 / Phys.Def Bonus 9 / Phys.Prot Bonus 3 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Auto Def 3%
Rank: C
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 30 / Phys.Def Bonus 11 / Phys.Prot Bonus 4 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Auto Def 3%
Rank: B
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 35 / Phys.Def Bonus 13 / Phys.Prot Bonus 5 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0/ Auto Def 3%
Rank: A
AP: 1 / Skill CP: 40 / Phys.Def Bonus 15 / Phys.Prot Bonus 6 / Magic Def Bonus 0 / Magic Prot Bonus 0 / Auto Def 3%
Rank: 9
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 50 / Phys.Def Bonus 20 / Phys.Prot Bonus 7 / Magic Def Bonus 1 / Magic Prot Bonus 1 / Auto Def 5%
Rank: 8
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 60 / Phys.Def Bonus 21 / Phys.Prot Bonus 8 / Magic Def Bonus 2 / Magic Prot Bonus 1 / Auto Def 5%
Rank: 7
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 65 / Phys.Def Bonus 22 / Phys.Prot Bonus 9 / Magic Def Bonus 3 / Magic Prot Bonus 2 / Auto Def 5%
Rank: 6
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 70 / Phys.Def Bonus 23 / Phys.Prot Bonus 10 / Magic Def Bonus 5 / Magic Prot Bonus 2 / Auto Def 5%
Rank: 5
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 75 / Phys.Def Bonus 24 / Phys.Prot Bonus 11 / Magic Def Bonus 7 / Magic Prot Bonus 3 / Auto Def 6%
Rank: 4
AP: 2 / Skill CP: 80 / Phys.Def Bonus 25 / Phys.Prot Bonus 12 / Magic Def Bonus 9 / Magic Prot Bonus 3 / Auto Def 6%
Rank: 3
AP: 3 / Skill CP: 85 / Phys.Def Bonus 26 / Phys.Prot Bonus 13 / Magic Def Bonus 11 / Magic Prot Bonus 4 / Auto Def 7%
Rank: 2
AP: 3 / Skill CP: 90 / Phys.Def Bonus 28 / Phys.Prot Bonus 14 / Magic Def Bonus 13 / Magic Prot Bonus 4 / Auto Def 7%
Rank: 1
AP: 5 / Skill CP: 100 / Phys.Def Bonus 30 / Phys.Prot Bonus 15 / Magic Def Bonus 15 / Magic Prot Bonus 5 / Auto Def 8% [/SPOILER]

Posting because I can.
Phunkie wrote on 2013-03-20 21:39

Sounds like fun!

This thread is full of so much overreacting. I'm pretty sure ya'll gonna fall in love with all of this once it gets fine tuned and released.
ironwoman wrote on 2013-03-20 21:40

Quote from â•”â•¦â•—â•’â••â•‘â•’â••;1052558:
Cloth armor is still good for set bonuses and like light armor, neither have the dex penalty.

So in that case, now the maximum damage set up would be light armor + 2 accs?

I mean, clothes can't have darkness. And almost every light armor can have Ancient, while for clothes only flamerider can.
M wrote on 2013-03-20 21:44

Quote from ironwoman;1052563:
So in that case, now the maximum damage set up would be light armor + 2 accs?

I mean, clothes can't have darkness. And almost every light armor can have Ancient, while for clothes only flamerider can.

Max dmg setup would be light armor (ancient darkness max rolled) + 2 accessories + heavy gauntlets for a high roll steel needle. Unless you still preferred the 20% boost of the bohemian set to magnum shot.

I guess the most logical set bonus to go for now would be the nuadha set (w/steel needle) for the demi god bonus with either a pre-reforged (rank 1, if there are any from gacha) light armor or something disposable so that you can reroll enchants.
Milk wrote on 2013-03-20 21:46

Question! Will Shields still have that Hidden Defensive passive? Or Will that be replaced by the defense from shield mastery?

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