[KR TEST] Armor masteries and stat/skill rebalancing

• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-03-20 23:17
  Mana shield did get a nerf then. (in a sense)
  
  To alchemists, Alchemy damage is based on CURRENT HP/MP/SP.
  
  So Water alchemists have to refrain from using mana shield.
  
  And Flame Bursters have to use mana shield.
  
  DECISIONS.
• M wrote on 2013-03-20 23:23
  how is mana shield nerfed (or buffed)? and by how much? /doesn't really understand
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-03-20 23:24

  Quote from Aubog007;1052643:

  Mana shield did get a nerf then. (in a sense)
  
  To alchemists, Alchemy damage is based on CURRENT HP/MP/SP.
  
  So Water alchemists have to refrain from using mana shield.
  
  And Flame Bursters have to use mana shield.
  
  DECISIONS.

  
  
  It's rather interesting how they set it up like that. Continues to seperate Water + Flame Alchemy so no Steam Alchemists I'm afraid xD
  
  I'd probably go with Fire so I can keep my Mana Shield tanking rather than wash away my enemies. I'd rather burn em to a crisp :D
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-03-20 23:29

  Quote from ╔╦╗╒╕║╒╕;1052649:

  how is mana shield nerfed (or buffed)? and by how much? /doesn't really understand

  
  
  I meant in alchemy sense because you cant manashield everything.
  
  
  
  Better not let the doppelganger flameburst you.
• M wrote on 2013-03-20 23:32

  Quote from Aubog007;1052653:

  I meant in alchemy sense because you cant manashield everything.
  
  
  
  Better not let the doppelganger flameburst you.

  
  Oh I see. Well it is an interesting concept for alch, especially considering they didn't get Any buffs from stats, now they get buffs from perhaps the most commonly raised stats.
  
  I wonder how much more(?) efficient mana shield will be with the new magic attack system for everyone else though
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-03-20 23:36

  Quote from ╔╦╗╒╕║╒╕;1052659:

  Oh I see. Well it is an interesting concept for alch, especially considering they didn't get Any buffs from stats, now they get buffs from perhaps the most commonly raised stats.
  
  I wonder how much more(?) efficient mana shield will be with the new magic attack system for everyone else though

  
  
  When the test server comes up I'll play around with it but thanks to the auto r1 armour masteries the results will be skewed unless I wear the clothing and the effects only apply when you actually use light/heavy armour. Not sure if they auto apply or only applie while you wear the armour, can anyone clarify?
• M wrote on 2013-03-20 23:38

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1052662:

  When the test server comes up I'll play around with it but thanks to the auto r1 armour masteries the results will be skewed unless I wear the clothing and the effects only apply when you actually use light/heavy armour. Not sure if they auto apply or only applie while you wear the armour, can anyone clarify?

  
  
  Im sure if you are naked or wear clothing the light and heavy armor bonuses will not apply to you lol so yeah it should be testable with clothing (or naked) :P
• Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-03-20 23:49

  Quote from Piconoe;1052484:

  A-fucking-men. Why does nobody (Yakumo) realize this? To encourage Humans to use Light Armor, there needs to be a downside to Heavy Armor. Before this update, it was the accessory thing. Since statistically, Heavy Armor is 100% better than Light Armor in every way, they needed to place some restriction before in the form of accessory restrictions. Since that's being removed, if they didn't have a Dex restriction, nobody would use Light Armor because Heavy Armor would once again be 100% better than it in every way. If you want all of your Dex, wear Light Armor. You were perfectly fine with the argument being "If you want to use an Accessory, wear Light Armor," so why is it any different now? You keep complaining about Balance yet you fail to notice that "Balance" is exactly what's happening here.

  
  
  blahblahblah didn't read the topic umadbro
  
  

  Quote from Aubog007;1052643:

  Mana shield did get a nerf then. (in a sense)
  
  To alchemists, Alchemy damage is based on CURRENT HP/MP/SP.
  
  So Water alchemists have to refrain from using mana shield.
  
  And Flame Bursters have to use mana shield.
  
  DECISIONS.

  
  
  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  
  It's based on current HP/MP/SP?
  
  Bollocks. This needs fixing.
• Zeo wrote on 2013-03-20 23:53

  Quote from Aubog007;1052643:

  To alchemists, Alchemy damage is based on CURRENT HP/MP/SP.

  
  
  Interesting, so... for the Stam based one... you'd want to chug down stamina pot every once a while to get the best max damage?
  
  And as for current HP/MP/Stam... does it count in Trans as well... like... if you have 500 MP and went into trans and got 1k MP... the damage would increase because you have current MP at 1k, right?
• M wrote on 2013-03-20 23:56
  What if you're in deadly? is that treated as 0 HP or does it wtfhax its way to infinite dmg :D
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-03-21 00:03

  Quote from ╔╦╗╒╕║╒╕;1052676:

  What if you're in deadly? is that treated as 0 HP or does it wtfhax its way to infinite dmg :D

  
  
  You do shit damage.
• Zeo wrote on 2013-03-21 00:06

  Quote from Aubog007;1052682:

  You do shit damage.

  
  
  Hmm... I would like my previous post answered too, if possible.
  
  

  Quote from Zeo;1052675:

  Interesting, so... for the Stam based one... you'd want to chug down stamina pot every once a while to get the best max damage?
  
  And as for current HP/MP/Stam... does it count in Trans as well... like... if you have 500 MP and went into trans and got 1k MP... the damage would increase because you have current MP at 1k, right?

• Slayerj wrote on 2013-03-21 00:06
  So wait, the magic formula isn't a buff untill 500int and up and then it's only slightly?...The fuck. XD
• Zeo wrote on 2013-03-21 00:07

  Quote from Slayerj;1052684:

  So wait, the magic formula isn't a buff untill 500int and up and then it's only slightly?...The fuck. XD

  
  
  No. That is incorrect. The current magic system is 20 Int per 1% but for the new system, it's 5 int per 1 magic attack.
  
  Each magic skill have different magic attack rate.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-03-21 00:10

  Quote from Zeo;1052685:

  No. That is incorrect. The current magic system is 20 Int per 1% but for the new system, it's 5 int per 1 magic attack.
  
  Each magic skill have different magic attack rate.

  
  
  To sum it up more simply...
  
  [7:04:13 PM] radionoise: according to soluna only fireball and thunder are buffed
  [7:04:18 PM] radionoise: IS, hail and firebolt are nerfed
  
  [7:04:39 PM] Roy: what about blaze?
  [7:04:42 PM] Roy: blaze remains the same?
  [7:04:45 PM] Joey (who else): Buffed to high hell
  
  [7:04:53 PM] radionoise: >overall only Fireball and Thunder is Buffed in terms of dmg, the others like Hail, Firebolt, and IS is nerfed
  
  [7:05:12 PM] Roy: well apparantly blaze is also buffed according to Joey radi
  [7:05:19 PM] radionoise: blaze, mana shield and healing have their own formulas
  
  [7:05:28 PM] Joey (who else): They will probably be rebalanced
  [7:05:31 PM] radionoise: so they're buffed unless they decide to scale those formulas to the new stats
  [7:05:34 PM] Joey (who else): Blaze does too much damage
  [7:05:44 PM] Joey (who else): 21k non crits...is just crazy