[KR TEST] Armor masteries and stat/skill rebalancing

• Anwell wrote on 2013-03-20 06:44
  So let me get this straight, if they are removing magic damage % and adding 4x magic attack instead, would that mean a pair of Rosemary Gloves add 60 Ice Magic Attack?
  
  Also, what happens to the Hebona set bonuses and combo card percentages?
• JoeyDee9 wrote on 2013-03-20 06:47
  Okay, I would like to point out to those crying about the balance change. This is the TEST server, just as gunner had changes when it went live anything we see as of this moment can also be changed.
• FallenDanny wrote on 2013-03-20 06:47

  Quote from Yakumo Yukari;1052029:

  Except killing hybridding and murking close combat skills is not a good idea.

  
  
  I see your point, but from what frog just said we'd still get 80 balance as long as we have rank 1 combat mastery and the correspond mastery and the right amount of dex.
  
  Every little thing will be alright.~
  
  But if it's not and everything really is screwed to hell, then I'll join you on the battle field.
  :skip:
• Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-03-20 06:47

  Quote from Froglord of DESTINY!!!;1052019:

  Balance isn't getting nerfed, it'll still probably be 4 dex for each 1 balance, it'll just be capped at 50% so that even if you had like 9 billion dex, you'd still have only 50% balance from it.
  
  Other skills such as combat mastery add 15% dex, weapon mastery skills also add 15% dex.
  
  So overall you'd still be getting 80% dex.
  
  So quit yer wining

  
  
  Didn't see this post. They're revamping the amount of dex needed and wearing heavy armour still murks dex, so even with the ~400 dex I have at 1/1 it's still not going to be enough.
  
  Lance mastery doesn't add balance, and many enchants like lich and that one thing that decreases balance by 40% become pretty much useless.
  
  It's still a minor issue, the real danger is hybridding getting murked.
  
  

  Quote from JoeyDee9;1052031:

  Okay, I would like to point out to those crying about the balance change. This is the TEST server, just as gunner had changes when it went live anything we see as of this moment can also be changed.

  
  
  joey pls dont make me hurt you for not doing ma wif me
• Reyaxris wrote on 2013-03-20 06:48

  Quote from JoeyDee9;1052031:

  Okay, I would like to point out to those crying about the balance change. This is the TEST server, just as gunner had changes when it went live anything we see as of this moment can also be changed.

  
  
  This.
• M wrote on 2013-03-20 06:48
  Regarding the balance cap and dex per balance concerns:
  
  

  The amount of dexterity required to raise balance will be raised
  - 밸런스가 높아질수록 밸런스를 증가시키기 위해 요구되는 솜씨 수치가 높아집니다.
  Balance bonuses will be capped at 50
  솜씨 수치만을 통해 증가되는 밸런스의 최대 수치는 50으로 제한합니다.
  ????
  기존의 솜씨가 가진 수치당 제공받던 % 효율은 더 이상 적용되지 않습니다.
  The maximum balance based on adding both character balance and weapon balance will remain the same
  캐릭터의 밸런스와 착용한 무기의 효과를 더한 밸런스의 최대 수치는 기존과 동일합니다.

  
  
  Though yes, the above posters are totally correct. This is still in the earliest stages of testing lol no point in panicking. I'm sure they will either rework the balance system some more or add balance to all the masteries or even increase balance on specific weapons.
  
  Funny, people used to think balance was such a worry-free stat
• Anwell wrote on 2013-03-20 06:50

  Quote from Anwell;1052030:

  So let me get this straight, if they are removing magic damage % and adding 4x magic attack instead, would that mean a pair of Rosemary Gloves add 60 Ice Magic Attack?
  
  Also, what happens to the Hebona set bonuses, combo card percentages?

  
  
  And would Magic Damage percentage on Ego Wands change?
• JoeyDee9 wrote on 2013-03-20 06:50
  What I can gather though is low balance will really hurt new players. I'm very interested to see how well this plays out and how the KR community will react to it.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-03-20 06:52
  Still doesn't get rid of actual prot for critical chance calculations, will stick to clothing for peaca then.
• M wrote on 2013-03-20 06:52

  Quote from JoeyDee9;1052037:

  What I can gather though is low balance will really hurt new players. I'm very interested to see how well this plays out and how the KR community will react to it.

  
  
  Chances are newbies will do what they've always had to do. Rely on high balance weapons until their dex is high enough to do otherwise.
• Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-03-20 06:54

  Quote from ╔╦╗╒╕║╒╕;1052035:

  Regarding the balance cap and dex per balance concerns:
  
  
  
  Though yes, the above posters are totally correct. This is still in the earliest stages of testing lol no point in panicking. I'm sure they will either rework the balance system some more or add balance to all the masteries or even increase balance on specific weapons.
  
  Funny, people used to think balance was such a worry-free stat

  
  
  No, we're all going to have to overwrite ambush for glass fragment or something.
  
  

  Quote from JoeyDee9;1052037:

  What I can gather though is low balance will really hurt new players. I'm very interested to see how well this plays out and how the KR community will react to it.

  
  
  A thousand times this, i'm aching already.
  
  Mabinogi: The one game where Wizards tank in heavy armour and close combats are penalized for wearing armour.
  
  Unless you hybrid with magic/alch and gunner, rip.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-03-20 06:58
  Uh, did raincasting get changed? It didnt mention it at all.
  
  Can not make anymore cloud crystals.
• Anwell wrote on 2013-03-20 06:58
  http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Balance_Modifiers
  
  Well, looks like those balance enchants are going to be useful if your complaining about balance.
  
  Can anyone tell me what happens to bonuses on magic damage increasing items like the Rosemary Gloves, Hebona set, and Ego Wands.
• JoeyDee9 wrote on 2013-03-20 06:59
  Let the day 1 testing fizzle out. I'm can almost guarantee some changes will be made to what we see today.
  
  If you've ever played D&D all heavy armors come with a dex penalty (and a magic penalty but apparently mabi doesn't agree with that). It makes perfect sense to take a reduction to dex while wearing heavy armor. And it does by no means kill hybriding, you just have to suck up the loss of piercing and balance and deal with it. I know a player who does fighter in heavy armor because he likes the extra defense, the game isn't all about damage. Heavy armor may become a defensive players dream while light armor becomes a damage players paradise.
• ca25nada wrote on 2013-03-20 07:01

  Quote from ca25nada;1052024:

  I'll post the base damages for R1s in a few minutes.

  
  
  So I just logged in and checked the R1 magic base damages:
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]It's the same.
  
  so either nothing has changed, or the change was for some unknown parameters other than the base damage[/SPOILER]