[KR TEST] Armor masteries and stat/skill rebalancing

• M wrote on 2013-03-20 06:11
  I guess that conceptual avenger dustin in my bank might not be so useless... or that perfect rolled ancient darkness chinese armor D:
  
  light armor does not reduce dex does it? If it doesn't, then light armor would easily outclass clothing since it can be worn with 2 accessories now
• Kenero wrote on 2013-03-20 06:13
  Come watch the new live stream:
  
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  Also, the reason heavy armor reduces dex is because it's meant to be defensive in its nature like it was meant to be.
• Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-03-20 06:15

  Quote from Kenero;1051997:

  Come watch the new live stream:
  
  http://www.twitch.tv/nationtv
  
  
  Also, the reason heavy armor reduces dex is because it's meant to be defensive in its nature like it was meant to be.

  
  
  That doesn't make it any less stupid. Why doesn't it reduce int then? Or will? Oh wait, because it's stupid.
• M wrote on 2013-03-20 06:17

  Quote from Yakumo Yukari;1051999:

  That doesn't make it any less stupid. Why doesn't it reduce int then? Or will? Oh wait, because it's stupid.

  
  
  Both will and int are associated with defensive play. Not to mention the "making sense" factor. Wearing big armor makes you less dexterous. It doesn't make you stupid or have less willpower.
  
  I do find it interesting that mages aren't hindered by wearing heavy armor. It seems like a common mold to make mages only wear the lightest of clothing.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-03-20 06:18

  Quote from Yakumo Yukari;1051999:

  That doesn't make it any less stupid. Why doesn't it reduce int then? Or will? Oh wait, because it's stupid.

  
  
  It's heavy armor, not stupidity armor.
  
  Anyways, you're overreacting a bit. Just because a -single- item type, such as heavy armor, reducing dex killing hybridbility is going a bit far.
  
  You still have clothes and light armor.
• Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-03-20 06:19

  Quote from ╔╦╗╒╕║╒╕;1052001:

  Both will and int are associated with defensive play. Not to mention the "making sense" factor. Wearing big armor makes you less dexterous. It doesn't make you stupid or have less willpower.

  
  
  
  There's tons of other things that make less sense, Like shieldless charge or the billions of plotholes.
  
  But nope, the only way they could "balance" stuff was to hit what everyone else usually does with the nerf stick hard.
• M wrote on 2013-03-20 06:22

  Quote from Yakumo Yukari;1052003:

  There's tons of other things that make less sense, Like shieldless charge or the billions of plotholes.
  
  But nope, the only way they could "balance" stuff was to hit what everyone else usually does with the nerf stick hard.

  
  
  I don't understand how shieldless charge is a plothole. Charge is really just a rushing attack, I guess ordinary humans and elves are too frail to charge without a shield without some magical reforged equipment. Also I don't see how because something else doesn't make sense, everything else shouldn't make sense.
  
  At any rate, they didn't nerf anything really. They made light armor on par to current heavy armor AND gave it an extra accessory.
  
  On Topic: I'm curious to see what stats these skills give (IE: str, stam, etc)
• Reyaxris wrote on 2013-03-20 06:23
  Too much overreacting for something that STILL in testing.
• Froglord of DESTINY!!! wrote on 2013-03-20 06:23
  Alchemy liquidation time
• M wrote on 2013-03-20 06:24

  Quote from Reyaxris;1052007:

  Too much overreacting for something that STILL in testing.

  
  
  Ehh it's just one person. Not as bad as the reforge overreactions or even the golem nerf overreactions (which btw it sounds like might be getting rebuffed? they did mention "new alchemy summons")
• Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-03-20 06:25

  Quote from ╔╦╗╒╕║╒╕;1052006:

  I don't understand how shieldless charge is a plothole. Charge is really just a rushing attack, I guess ordinary humans and elves are too frail to charge without a shield without some magical reforged equipment. Also I don't see how because something else doesn't make sense, everything else shouldn't make sense.
  
  At any rate, they didn't nerf anything really. They made light armor on par to current heavy armor AND gave it an extra accessory.
  
  On Topic: I'm curious to see what stats these skills give (IE: str, stam, etc)

  
  
  Didn't nerf anything really.
  
  Hybridding, melee, fighter, range, puppets. Wait, that's everything except alch, magic and gunner. Brilliant!
  
  Inb4 giants have 0% balance
• FallenDanny wrote on 2013-03-20 06:26
  I support this patch, but I guess Archers/puppeters are getting mad?... Idk why, it seems like they wouldn't be affected unless they wore heavy armor.
  
  Although, I do disagree on some minor notes... I also can't gain ap fast enough to keep up with all these skills. :gloom3:
• Froglord of DESTINY!!! wrote on 2013-03-20 06:29

  Quote from Yakumo Yukari;1052010:

  Didn't nerf anything really.
  
  Hybridding, melee, fighter, range, puppets. Wait, that's everything except alch, magic and gunner. Brilliant!
  
  Inb4 giants have 0% balance

  
  
  Giants still get 30% balance from skills.
  Humans and elves get 45%
• Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-03-20 06:29

  Quote from FallenDanny;1052011:

  I support this patch, but I guess Archers/puppeters are getting mad?... Idk why, it seems like they wouldn't be affected unless they wore heavy armor.
  
  Although, I do disagree on some minor notes... I also can't gain ap fast enough to keep up with all these skills. :gloom3:

  
  
  Nah, not just that, anything that depends on balance is getting heavily nerfed as well as people who use more then one skillset unless it's guns.
  
  I'm glad magic and alchemy got fixed. I'm not so glad that everything else is screwed over.
• M wrote on 2013-03-20 06:30

  Quote from FallenDanny;1052011:

  I support this patch, but I guess Archers/puppeters are getting mad?... Idk why, it seems like they wouldn't be affected unless they wore heavy armor.
  
  Although, I do disagree on some minor notes... I also can't gain ap fast enough to keep up with all these skills. :gloom3:

  
  
  As an archer I can point out two real positives.
  
  Dex now gives 1 more dmg per 15 that pierces defense. With little over 1k dex, that's another 67 pierceable dmg.
  Light armor (ancient darkness) now can give 27 max along with 2 accessories which outclasses the common ancient ambush setup which is 23 max dmg while gaining much more defense/protection due to the new mastery.