[KR Test] Advance Magic Skills and Others

• Kenero wrote on 2013-04-19 01:11

  Quote from Zekkii;1070742:

  Gee, I don't really know if much has changed. I hate to see numbers thrown around without solid formulas and stats to back them up, so I'll have pass on my opinion for now.
  
  The only certain thing is the blaze is OP, though this is more of an issue than a delightful balancing factor if you ask me. The problem is that blaze can be used as a large area AoE attack and from where I'm standing it looks like that could mean as much as 60,000 crits or more with a well tuned mage.

  
  
  There have been images with stats, such as can25ada's post.
• uoi100 wrote on 2013-04-19 01:18
  So any information about the blaze formula and the new magic formula?
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-04-19 01:40

  Quote from uoi100;1070751:

  So any information about the blaze formula and the new magic formula?

  
  Old Formula
  120[Explosion Damage Multipler]([Magic Attack]+100)[Wand Bonus] * Magic Mastery Bonus * ([Weapon Magic Damage]+[Magic Master Title]) * Special Upgrade Magic Damage * .7
  
  With r1 Magic Mastery, Blaze
  403.2 ([Magic Attack]+100)[Wand Bonus] * ([Weapon Magic Damage]+[Magic Master Title]) * Special Upgrade Magic Damage
  
  With 300 MATK, no special upgrade
  161,280[Wand Bonus] * ([Weapon Magic Damage]+[Magic Master Title])
  
  With Combat Wand, and no Magic Master Title or Weapon Magic Damge
  19,353.6
  
  With critical
  48,384
  
  
  I'm guessing the formula hasn't changed, but perhaps every magic weapon gets 120% damage? (multiplier of 0.12 instead of 0.05)
  
  If someone on test could test this formula and match with their equipment or post the following:
  
  -Full blaze damage with knockback
  -Wand used, with all stats
  -Title used
  -Magic Attack Stat
  -Special Upgrade Type and Level
  -Rank of Blaze and Magic Mastery
• Perfectio wrote on 2013-04-19 01:46
  Put it this way
  
  If we stopped mabi before adv reforges came out, this would be a great magic update, putting it well on par with other skillsets. However, with new weapons, new reforges, Genesis, puppets, etc, it still falls behind. It's a bandage over a gunshot wound, but the patient needed surgery.
  
  Again, magic is faster, but not fast enough. It's still hindered by charge time. Still AP intensive. Still poor synergy with other skillsets. Still draws mass aggro. It's maybe a C skillset which is an improvement from a D- but there's no grading on a curve in Mabi and doesn't fit our dps oriented metagame.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-04-19 01:49

  Quote from Johny;1070642:

  Guns? GUNS?
  
  Pffft I want mah magic man! :P

  
  
  and magic is still good in it's on right. As for testing formula's, I'll give it another go in Test. The results will be unreliable however. For the test server does not have the same content the live server has at this point and the formula's might have changed.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-04-19 02:02

  Quote from Zekkii;1070766:

  Old Formula
  120[Explosion Damage Multipler]([Magic Attack]+100)[Wand Bonus] * Magic Mastery Bonus * ([Weapon Magic Damage]+[Magic Master Title]) * Special Upgrade Magic Damage * .7
  
  With r1 Magic Mastery, Blaze
  403.2 ([Magic Attack]+100)[Wand Bonus] * ([Weapon Magic Damage]+[Magic Master Title]) * Special Upgrade Magic Damage
  
  With 300 MATK, no special upgrade
  161,280[Wand Bonus] * ([Weapon Magic Damage]+[Magic Master Title])
  
  With Combat Wand, and no Magic Master Title or Weapon Magic Damge
  19,353.6
  
  With critical
  48,384
  
  
  I'm guessing the formula hasn't changed, but perhaps every magic weapon gets 120% damage? (multiplier of 0.12 instead of 0.05)
  
  If someone on test could test this formula and match with their equipment or post the following:
  
  -Full blaze damage with knockback
  -Wand used, with all stats
  -Title used
  -Magic Attack Stat
  -Special Upgrade Type and Level
  -Rank of Blaze and Magic Mastery

  
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/rt4kn8o.jpg]

  
  
  R1 Blaze, R1 Magic Mastery
  905 Int, 247 Magic Attack
  
  (chaincast +4, Magic Attack +15)
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/2CyVB.jpg]

  
  IS + charged blaze after knockdown
  
  ca25nada's post.
  
  Though for more equipment, you need to talk to him.
• Anwell wrote on 2013-04-19 02:05

  Quote from Kenero;1070797:

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/rt4kn8o.jpg]

  
  
  R1 Blaze, R1 Magic Mastery
  905 Int, 247 Magic Attack
  
  (chaincast +4, Magic Attack +15)
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/2CyVB.jpg]

  
  IS + charged blaze after knockdown
  
  ca25nada's post.
  
  Though for more equipment, you need to talk to him.

  
  
  I'm wandering, is it better to have a chaincast savage ice wand for -10 sec to instant cast with 1 charge time or a magic attack one.
  
  What are the upgrades for the Savage Wands and Hermit Staff exactly? Also, has the ego wand been given a 4x magic attack buff?
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-04-19 02:09
  Well if he sees this, all that's missing is titles, and special upgrades from what I can see. If that's not it, there was a buff to the formula.
• Azareel wrote on 2013-04-19 02:12

  Quote from Anwell;1070802:

  I'm wandering, is it better to have a chaincast savage ice wand for -10 sec to instant cast with 1 charge time or a magic attack one.
  
  What are the upgrades for the Savage Wands and Hermit Staff exactly? Also, has the ego wand been given a 4x magic attack buff?

  
  
  I don't really understand your question about speed, as speed upgrades don't cut off solid seconds.
  Think of it this way: You can focus exclusively on Magic Damage upgrades (Savage Ice seems to be able to reach +21% Magic Damage), and get your speed effects from Vivace/Hint of Magic/Magic Summon Speed +.
  
  Edit: Although from what's listed on the wiki, the Hermit staff can reach the same level of Magic Damage (plus some optional extra crit), if you sacrifice durability.
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-04-19 02:16

  Quote from Azareel;1070812:

  I don't really understand your question about speed, as speed upgrades don't cut off solid seconds.
  Think of it this way: You can focus exclusively on Magic Damage upgrades (Savage Ice seems to be able to reach +21% Magic Damage), and get your speed effects from Vivace/Hint of Magic/Magic Summon Speed +.

  
  Every icebolt should cut 2 seconds off of instant casting's cooldown. I believe that's the idea, but I don't see it as sufficient reason to spam near useless attacks when you could simply be using intermediate magics you're so patiently waiting for or another skillset entirely.
• Perfectio wrote on 2013-04-19 02:19
  Well, with hermit staff I figure you spam thunder to take off 8 or 10 seconds per charge. Unless it doesn't work that way?
• phil11g wrote on 2013-04-19 02:19

  Quote from Slayerj;1070698:

  Everyone said Fighter was going to be so fking OP and everyone was going to be that. I don't see that happening.
  
  Everyone said puppets were going to be so OP and everyone was going to be that. I don't see that happening.
  

  
  
  
  Well.. they still are OP in dueling. which is a problem if devcat ever decides to renew the dungeon arena or PvP in general.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2013-04-19 02:22
  For the -2 seconds to Instant Cast's cooldown for every magical attack you land, does it count each separate target hit or just once, for AoE spells?
• Kenero wrote on 2013-04-19 02:36

  Quote from Anwell;1070802:

  I'm wandering, is it better to have a chaincast savage ice wand for -10 sec to instant cast with 1 charge time or a magic attack one.
  
  What are the upgrades for the Savage Wands and Hermit Staff exactly? Also, has the ego wand been given a 4x magic attack buff?

  
  
  The wand isn't special upgrade. Remember when items become Special Upgrade they adopt R or S to their name. I.E. Blessed Diamond Caliburn Broadsword R.
  
  This also applies to Korean items.
  
  
  

  Quote from Iyasenu;1070823:

  For the -2 seconds to Instant Cast's cooldown for every magical attack you land, does it count each separate target hit or just once, for AoE spells?

  
  
  If you hit an enemy with 5 icebolts, that's -10 second cooldown.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2013-04-19 02:40

  Quote from Kenero;1070840:

  If you hit an enemy with 5 icebolts, that's -10 second cooldown.

  
  
  Well that's as predicted, what about a fireball that hits 5 enemies?