[KR Test] Advance Magic Skills and Others

• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-04-09 18:25

  Quote from Iyasenu;1065556:

  
  Even, then it doesn't warrant such a MONSTROUS cooldown, at all.
  Not when other skillsets can do the same thing, constantly.

  
  
  I'm going to have to disagree here. I think it's very possible for it to be hitting 30k+ on boss mobs. Get enough people using it on something like a Master Lich and it's as good as dead. Meteor Strike is purely a bossing skill that you would use more on mission/dungeon/field bosses only.
  
  I mean sure 30 minutes is quite the cooldown but something like 5-10 minutes would be terribly OP in terms of it's overwhelming power.
• Slayerj wrote on 2013-04-09 18:31
  Urg...I was hoping instant cast would be toggle able like chain cylinder or something so I don't have to waste room on my hot bar AND remember to turn it on every 3 minutes. :-/
  
  Anyone know what magic weapon mastery does at x ranks?
  
  Also what's the ap cost of these skills atm?
  
  
  

  Quote from radionoise;1065481:

  
  Also, the light armor set gives 12 magic attack and the heavy armor set gives 10 magic attack.

  
  
  So it has a set effect? Or just parts of it added up? Or...?
• FallenDanny wrote on 2013-04-09 18:32
  Magic takes triple the ap of fighter and puppeteer now. :srsly?:
  
  I really hope they at least do changes to the ap cost of existing skills and some of the new ones.
  
  I like how meteor storm works but don't we already have a bunch of last resort skills?... I.e. Demi god, spear of god, Wings of eclipse, ect?...
• Iyasenu wrote on 2013-04-09 18:32
  My views are a bit skewed seeing it do just 9k on the alby spider boss.
  
  Can ya'll use Meteor on something REALLY resilient like Provo Basic walls?
  
  And what's the training like?
  
  The 30 minute cooldown isn't just impractical for its USE it's insane for its TRAINING.
• Johny wrote on 2013-04-09 18:34

  Quote from Slayerj;1065569:

  Urg...I was hoping instant cast would be toggle able like chain cylinder or something so I don't have to waste room on my hot bar AND remember to turn it on every 3 minutes. :-/
  
  Anyone know what magic weapon mastery does at x ranks?
  
  Also what's the ap cost of these skills atm?

  
  
  For what I've read, magic weapon mastery reduces cast time for intermediate spells. Don't know by how much per rank though.
  
  Also read somewhere that all 4 skills will cost 1000+ aps combined.
• Minatou wrote on 2013-04-09 18:42
  The one thing I am satisfied with so far...Meteor storm doesn't give a stupid stat. v.v. Moar int for gunner is welcome 8D
• Kenero wrote on 2013-04-09 18:42

  Quote from Iyasenu;1065571:

  My views are a bit skewed seeing it do just 9k on the alby spider boss.
  
  Can ya'll use Meteor on something REALLY resilient like Provo Basic walls?
  
  And what's the training like?
  
  The 30 minute cooldown isn't just impractical for its USE it's insane for its TRAINING.

  
  
  If we can get to r1 training...
• Blassreiter wrote on 2013-04-09 18:43

  Quote from Iyasenu;1065571:

  The 30 minute cooldown isn't just impractical for its USE it's insane for its TRAINING.

  
  
  If I almost killed myself for training Throwing Attack when it had 25 Seconds cool-down, god help whoever trains this 30 minutes.
  
  Also, note that this is the KR Test Server, not official. So everyone, don't get your panties in a bunch.
  
  
  Also since they made Intermediate Magics mobile, they should do the same for Wind Guard. WG is so crappy especially when the enemies glitch/lag and they can attack you while you can't due to displacement.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-04-09 18:43

  Quote from Iyasenu;1065571:

  My views are a bit skewed seeing it do just 9k on the alby spider boss.
  
  Can ya'll use Meteor on something REALLY resilient like Provo Basic walls?
  
  And what's the training like?
  
  The 30 minute cooldown isn't just impractical for its USE it's insane for its TRAINING.

  
  
  That also was with r9 Meteor Storm/rD fire mastery/200int. r1 is probably a lot stronger than r9 especially with someone who is a mage. I'll work on getting it trained up on my mage alt once I get a hold of a staff.
• Prae wrote on 2013-04-09 18:47
  I kind of agree with Iyasenu on this whole deal with the cooldown. From a practical training sense, it will literally be whole missions ran just to fulfill one training requirement.
  
  From a combat sense, as it was put earlier in this thread,
  
  

  Quote from Iyasenu;1065484:

  Doesn't matter how much damage it does, an enemy that dies from 5k damage won't give any more rewards if it dies from 30k damage.

  
  
  In the end, Meteor really only has its appeal for high hp mobs in a concentrated area, whose aggro can be managed such that the Meteor actually lands on them. Otherwise it's just overkill that could probably be replaced by other, more frequent skills.
  
  So really, what appeal is there for every non-endgame mage?
  Is there supposed to be any appeal for non-endgame mages?
  
  To me, Meteor just feels like a buffed up, single shot Adniel with a DoT at the end. In my opinion, the skill does not feel like a skill. It feels more like an insta-win item, kind of like what Adniel was more or less intended to be at first. Naturally, the definition of what a combat skill "is", is up for debate.
  
  I'm not saying that the cooldown should be low, like 3~5 min, but rather, not as high, like .. 7~15 mins.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-04-09 18:50

  Quote from Prae;1065580:

  I kind of agree with Iyasenu on this whole deal with the cooldown. From a practical training sense, it will literally be whole missions ran just to fulfill one training requirement.
  
  From a combat sense, as it was put earlier in this thread,
  
  
  
  In the end, Meteor really only has its appeal for high hp mobs in a concentrated area, whose aggro can be managed such that the Meteor actually lands on them. Otherwise it's just overkill that could probably be replaced by other, more frequent skills.
  
  So really, what appeal is there for every non-endgame mage?
  Is there supposed to be any appeal for non-endgame mages?
  
  To me, Meteor just feels like a buffed up, single shot Adniel with a DoT at the end. In my opinion, the skill does not feel like a skill. It feels more like an insta-win item, kind of like what Adniel was more or less intended to be at first. Naturally, the definition of what a combat skill "is", is up for debate.
  
  I'm not saying that the cooldown should be low, like 3~5 min, but rather, not as high, like .. 7~15 mins.

  
  
  He's right. With the ability to instant cast, moving cast, and run with intermediate spells loaded, you're better off using those and save meteor for the big bad.
  
  Like you find that one hard monster you just press the win skill for.
  
  Partwise, you can just charge up far, run and shoot fireballs, ice spear, thunder...
  
  And with the hermit staff that allows you to cast any intermediate magic without prior charges, you're all set.
• Minatou wrote on 2013-04-09 18:50
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  Quote from Prae;1065580:

  I kind of agree with Iyasenu on this whole deal with the cooldown. From a practical training sense, it will literally be whole missions ran just to fulfill one training requirement.
  
  From a combat sense, as it was put earlier in this thread,
  
  
  
  In the end, Meteor really only has its appeal for high hp mobs in a concentrated area, whose aggro can be managed such that the Meteor actually lands on them. Otherwise it's just overkill that could probably be replaced by other, more frequent skills.
  
  So really, what appeal is there for every non-endgame mage?
  Is there supposed to be any appeal for non-endgame mages?
  
  To me, Meteor just feels like a buffed up, single shot Adniel with a DoT at the end. In my opinion, the skill does not feel like a skill. It feels more like an insta-win item, kind of like what Adniel was more or less intended to be at first. Naturally, the definition of what a combat skill "is", is up for debate.
  
  I'm not saying that the cooldown should be low, like 3~5 min, but rather, not as high, like .. 7~15 mins.

  
  
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  Wonder if higher rank = lower cooldown. .-.
  
  If it does stay consistent, I honestly don't mind. Again though, the training will look a lot like hell. ;D
  [S]inb4meteorstormtrainingpots[/S]
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-04-09 18:52

  Quote from Minatou;1065582:

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  Wonder if higher rank = lower cooldown. .-.
  
  If it does stay consistent, I honestly don't mind. Again though, the training will look a lot like hell. ;D
  [S]inb4meteorstormtrainingpots[/S]

  
  
  cooldown is the same across all the ranks.
• Zeo wrote on 2013-04-09 18:54

  Quote from Minatou;1065582:

  Wonder if higher rank = lower cooldown. .-.[/S]

  
  
  [S]I've actually never thought of that, to be honest... [/S]altho, I do think 30 minutes cooldown is quite too high, but it's not too bad though.
  
  editted:: King ninja'd me, never mind the striked thing I said.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2013-04-09 18:56

  Quote from Kenero;1065576:

  If we can get to r1 training...

  
  
  What do you mean?
  
  Well, isn't finding training is as easy as looking in the files?
  
  But you've been on the server firsthand, right? Did you see what the training's like on r9 Meteor Strike?