[KR Test] Advance Magic Skills and Others

• Kenero wrote on 2013-04-09 18:59

  Quote from Iyasenu;1065586:

  What do you mean?
  
  Finding training is as easy as looking in the files.
  
  But I'll just ask, what's the training like on r9 Meteor Strike?

  
  
  It's not that... the 30 minute between makes training this skill a bit longer... even if KR test only requires 10% prof to rank up.
  
  If we were to, for example, just need 1 meteor storm to rank up... it will take 9 * 30 minutes = 4-5 hours to train to r1. xD
  
  So it'll be a while until we can post a rank 1 video. =)
  
  Just stay tuned~
• Minatou wrote on 2013-04-09 18:59
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]

  Quote from Iyasenu;1065586:

  What do you mean?
  
  Finding training is as easy as looking in the files.
  
  But I'll just ask, what's the training like on r9 Meteor Strike?

  [/SPOILER]
  
  I'd like to know this aswell, I keep thinking that if the training requires you to do a certain amount of damage, then blowing up all the sulfur spiders in SS wouldn't be a bad idea since it would total out to a lot.
  
  Edit: I have been ninja'd, so I will wait. Thank you for testing out the skill and doing all this. Much appreciated.
• Mentosftw wrote on 2013-04-09 19:00
  I wish they'd make changes to final hit and shot to make them more like instant cast.
• Minatou wrote on 2013-04-09 19:02

  Quote from Mentosftw;1065589:

  I wish they'd make changes to final hit and shot to make them more like instant cast.

  
  
  I don't quite get this. A teleporting smash...? *mindeffed*
  
  Instant load is already there for us @.@...*confused*
  
  Edit: Or do you mean just say screw all the attacking of final hit and just make it one bit smack?
• Kenero wrote on 2013-04-09 19:06
  I'm happy to test it out.
  
  Also guys remember this is testing, so anything is subject to change.
  
  Who here wants us to do a live stream of KR Test?
• Iyasenu wrote on 2013-04-09 19:11
  Yay for livestreams from the KR Test Crew~
  
  I definitely would like to see that.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-04-09 19:14

  Quote from Iyasenu;1065595:

  Yay for livestreams from the KR Test Crew~
  
  I definitely would like to see that.

  
  
  Alright, we'll make a plan today then. =)
• ironwoman wrote on 2013-04-09 19:17

  Quote from radionoise;1065536:

  The new lance has a small chance to freeze enemies like ice dragon.
  
  The new knuckle can increase damage by 12.5% for 8 seconds.
  
  They now join their sister bow that has 15% damage unlimited arrows to form the triforce of OP weapons.

  
  
  I approve.
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-04-09 19:29
  Someone should really test the magic formula with intermediate magic. :x
• Second wrote on 2013-04-09 22:00
  It'll be funny if r2 Meteor training is like cast 2000 times.
• M wrote on 2013-04-09 22:27

  Quote from radionoise;1065536:

  The new lance has a small chance to freeze enemies like ice dragon.
  
  The new knuckle can increase damage by 12.5% for 8 seconds.
  
  They now join their sister bow that has 15% damage unlimited arrows to form the triforce of OP weapons.

  
  
  What are the stats on that OP bow (upgraded if it can be upgraded) and how does one obtain it and the arrow item?
• SirRyu wrote on 2013-04-09 22:35
  Wonder if magic weapon mastery will work with the mysterious phoenix sword..
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-04-09 23:03
  Anyways here's a quick recap that I'm going to put into visual form in a few. If you guys have any corrections, I implore you to let me know now so I that I can correct it before I make the video and put up wrong info.
  
  [spoiler]
  Magic Update Talking Notes
  
  Formula change
  5int = 1 magic attack, magic damage formula has changed as well as changes to protection and defense to be split into magic defense and magic protection.
  These changes as well as changes to the spell coefficients has made the magic attack change to not do much and in the case of Ice Spear seems to nerf it
  due to magic attack not applying past the 1st charge
  
  Meteor Strike (cooldown 30min)
  Can possibly deal 49k crit on mobs with 0 def at r1 with 1k int, s5 staff upgrade and magic damage upgrade and r1 fire mastery, magic mastery, and
  r9 weapon mastery
  
  r9 Base damage is 1400-2000 with 380 fire damage every second for 10 seconds (3.8k fire damage)
  r1 Base damage is 4200~6000 with 1200 fire damage every second for 10 seconds (12k fire damage)
  
  Mainly use it for Martial Arts Final (Seems like it would destroy Team Boss in less than a minute without super reforges)
  Use it for Field Bosses or mission bosses. It takes 10seconds to get the target to be able to be placed on where you want the Meteor
  to land and then another 5 seconds for it to actually land
  
  Not very practical for everyday use and most people would say that it's practically useless in comparison to the other OP reforges + skills
  
  Mobile Casting
  r9 50% run speed
  r1 100% run speed
  
  Can run while casting int magic and when int magic is charged up. Drains stamina while active. There's currently a possible bug with ice spear
  where you can run when you have it cast while mobile casting is not active. Does not apply to Hailstorm or Meteor Storm and possibly not Shockwave?
  
  Instant Casting
  r9 cooldown 4 min 30 seconds (7sec duration)
  r1 Cooldown 3 minutes (12sec duration)
  Instantly charges 5 charges of all magic spells except for hailstorm and meteor storm. Unsure on shockwave at this time as I don't have it. Once you cast
  the spell it cancels so you can only do an instant fireball every 3 minutes
  
  Magic Weapon Mastery
  r9 70% bolt magic damage 7% int magic casting speed reduction
  r1 150% bolt magic damage 15% int magic casting speed reduction
  
  Overall the most useful skills from this update for mages will be mobile casting and magic weapon mastery in terms of increased versatility if you can
  handle the stamina drain. It'll make it easy to continue running with your party members while charging fireball so that you'll be ready when you enter the room.
  It'll also help create some interesting new combos I would imagine.
  
  Instant Casting isn't too terribly useful but not bad either as it'll allow for a quick instant fireball every 3 minutes which you can use to skip a room with
  or to follow up after Meteor Storm. Meteor Storm will only be used for boss fights or Martial Arts and it's CD and casting time doesn't make it appealing
  to most players. As with most things from KR test, this reflects conditions at this time on the KR Test server and is subject to change in the future with or without notice.
  [/spoiler]
• Perfectio wrote on 2013-04-09 23:09
  So in short, magic has gotten a net nerf along with a bunch of gimmicks.
  
  Game, set, match. Magic is now the undisputed worst skillset in the game.
  
  B>reset event.
  
  Anyone planning to be a mage at this point is a fool or incredibly stubborn/wedded to the idea of being a mage, unless Devcat scraps everything after "5 int for 1 Matk
• Johny wrote on 2013-04-09 23:24

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1065752:

  Anyways here's a quick recap that I'm going to put into visual form in a few. If you guys have any corrections, I implore you to let me know now so I that I can correct it before I make the video and put up wrong info.
  
  [spoiler]
  Magic Update Talking Notes
  
  Formula change
  5int = 1 magic attack, magic damage formula has changed as well as changes to protection and defense to be split into magic defense and magic protection.
  These changes as well as changes to the spell coefficients has made the magic attack change to not do much and in the case of Ice Spear seems to nerf it
  due to magic attack not applying past the 1st charge
  
  Meteor Strike (cooldown 30min)
  Can possibly deal 49k crit on mobs with 0 def at r1 with 1k int, s5 staff upgrade and magic damage upgrade and r1 fire mastery, magic mastery, and
  r9 weapon mastery
  
  r9 Base damage is 1400-2000 with 380 fire damage every second for 10 seconds (3.8k fire damage)
  r1 Base damage is 4200~6000 with 1200 fire damage every second for 10 seconds (12k fire damage)
  
  Mainly use it for Martial Arts Final (Seems like it would destroy Team Boss in less than a minute without super reforges)
  Use it for Field Bosses or mission bosses. It takes 10seconds to get the target to be able to be placed on where you want the Meteor
  to land and then another 5 seconds for it to actually land
  
  Not very practical for everyday use and most people would say that it's practically useless in comparison to the other OP reforges + skills
  
  Mobile Casting
  r9 50% run speed
  r1 100% run speed
  
  Can run while casting int magic and when int magic is charged up. Drains stamina while active. There's currently a possible bug with ice spear
  where you can run when you have it cast while mobile casting is not active. Does not apply to Hailstorm or Meteor Storm and possibly not Shockwave?
  
  Instant Casting
  r9 cooldown 4 min 30 seconds (7sec duration)
  r1 Cooldown 3 minutes (12sec duration)
  Instantly charges 5 charges of all magic spells except for hailstorm and meteor storm. Unsure on shockwave at this time as I don't have it. Once you cast
  the spell it cancels so you can only do an instant fireball every 3 minutes
  
  Magic Weapon Mastery
  r9 70% bolt magic damage 7% int magic casting speed reduction
  r1 150% bolt magic damage 15% int magic casting speed reduction
  
  Overall the most useful skills from this update for mages will be mobile casting and magic weapon mastery in terms of increased versatility if you can
  handle the stamina drain. It'll make it easy to continue running with your party members while charging fireball so that you'll be ready when you enter the room.
  It'll also help create some interesting new combos I would imagine.
  
  Instant Casting isn't too terribly useful but not bad either as it'll allow for a quick instant fireball every 3 minutes which you can use to skip a room with
  or to follow up after Meteor Storm. Meteor Storm will only be used for boss fights or Martial Arts and it's CD and casting time doesn't make it appealing
  to most players. As with most things from KR test, this reflects conditions at this time on the KR Test server and is subject to change in the future with or without notice.
  [/spoiler]

  
  
  /Hopes
  
  That's it, DevCat lost it. What's the point of changing the int formula for something worse, giving us a butchered chain-cast skill, if it's even that, making magic far less appealing than it is with more ap intensive skill, a useless skill, and a boss- only skill?
  
  Might as well free up Drive space by getting rid of the Magic talent all together, since it's got the most skills, the most complex formulas, the least population, and DevCat just doesn't get it right!!!....What's the point in all of this? This is absolutely ridiculous. 10 f*cking years tinkering with magic, only to make it a miserably useless talent.
  
  [SIZE="1"]Gotta keep it cool, gotta keep it cool...
  [/SIZE]
  *calm* Ok...yea, no regrets here. I've enjoyed my time as a mage in mabinogi. I will always be a mage at heart.
  
  But this...?
  
  *Sigh* Not liking this at all...Making magic a flashy show-off talent...that's what its come down to...