Mega Mosque near ground zero?

• Time wrote on 2010-08-23 19:44

  Quote from Shirayuki;135010:

  It's not even mainly a mosque. It's really barely a mosque. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions, so the world should cater to that fact, shouldn't it?

  
  
  Just adding to that.
  

  There are roughly one million Muslims in the tri-state area and several hundred thousand in New York City.

  
  
  Post 1.
• wolfram wrote on 2010-08-23 19:44

  Quote from Shirayuki;135010:

  It's not even mainly a mosque. It's really barely a mosque. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions, so the world should cater to that fact, shouldn't it?

  
  
  I disagree. All religions should be respected. Not catered towards.
• Tokiko wrote on 2010-08-23 19:45

  Quote from wolfram;134994:

  YMCA is community center. Not a church.
  There is no where to officially go pray in the YMCA.

  
  I live near the first one that was opened in the United States.
  My friend says it has a church which maybe the C is in the YMCA.
  Why do you hate about the Mosque so much?
  Seriously the US has freedom religion we can't tell anyone what not to believe in.
  They're not going to do anything bad...
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-08-23 19:45

  Quote from wolfram;135014:

  I disagree. All religions should be respected. Not catered towards.

  
  
  Yes, respected.
  So if you respect them, you should allow them to build this community center that's not even based on the mosque.
• Beepuke wrote on 2010-08-23 19:46

  Quote from wolfram;135003:

  Legal they have passed all zoning laws and are permitted to build there. Physically they can start building as soon as the funds come in. The question many people raise is, "Is it an Insult to the memory of 9/11 to build this particular mosque there?"
  
  They can just as well build somewhere else. Even the major and governor of New York has offered them Government Land to build on.

  
  
  Isn't it cathartic to let things go? Not to mention I don't see where the actual insult would be. It's not like the Muslim mosques were the ones that flew the planes into the twin towers. If they take the offer to move the mosque elsewhere, it will just further solidify the misguided idea that Islam is a dangerous religion.
• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-08-23 19:46

  Quote from wolfram;135014:

  I disagree. All religions should be respected. Not catered towards.

  
  
  If a religion has 3 followers, should there be a place of worship for the religion attached to a community center?
• Time wrote on 2010-08-23 19:47

  Quote from wolfram;135014:

  I disagree. All religions should be respected. Not catered towards.

  
  
  I think she meant it more along the lines of the world should be learning to deal with it, not fear it. But I could be wrong.
  
  Post 2.
  
  edit: Oh, ninjad.
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-08-23 19:50

  Quote from Beepuke;135019:

  Isn't it cathartic to let things go? Not to mention I don't see where the actual insult would be. It's not like the Muslim mosques were the ones that flew the planes into the twin towers. If they take the offer to move the mosque elsewhere, it will just further solidify the misguided idea that Islam is a dangerous religion.

  
  
  I agree with this.
  
  There's nothing wrong with the religion itself. Some people just misunderstand the text (or use it as an excuse), hence 911. But that happens with -all- religions.
  
  There are Muslims who are kind and honest people. You're saying they don't deserve their part of a community center because other people cause 911?
• wolfram wrote on 2010-08-23 19:52

  Quote from Timexpo;135022:

  I think she meant it more along the lines of the world should be learning to deal with it, not fear it. But I could be wrong.
  
  Post 2.
  
  edit: Oh, ninjad.

  
  
  From the way it sounded, it felt like he said we should kowtow to a growing religion. Sorry if i misinterpreted your meaning.
• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-08-23 19:52
  I wish an atheist caused 911. Would've spared be a few dead brain cells.
• Kazuni wrote on 2010-08-23 19:52

  Quote from Shirayuki;135027:

  I wish an atheist caused 911. Would've spared be a few dead brain cells.

  
  
  Or rather, you should wish it didn't happen at all.
• wolfram wrote on 2010-08-23 19:53
  I actually find it an enlightening debate.
• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-08-23 19:54

  Quote from Kazuni;135028:

  Or rather, you should wish it didn't happen at all.

  
  
  Want to see what dumb reasons people would conjure up to still blame someone for their problems.
• Osayidan wrote on 2010-08-23 22:44
  Too much to read, i'll just ask a simple question.
  
  If instead of a mosque, it was a synagogue, church, or Buddhist temple, would there still be 61% of Americans against the idea?
  If the answer is no, there wouldn't still be 61% of americans against it, then my work here is done.
• Axx wrote on 2010-08-24 00:12

  Quote from Osayidan;135156:

  Too much to read, i'll just ask a simple question.
  
  If instead of a mosque, it was a synagogue, church, or Buddhist temple, would there still be 61% of Americans against the idea?
  If the answer is no, there wouldn't still be 61% of americans against it, then my work here is done.

  
  Actually, I'll add something on to that.
  If it was a radical Christian, Jewish, Buddhist(not sure that's even possible, but go with it) or [Insert Religion Here] violent group who had claimed they had destroyed the Twin Towers because they were a symbol of Infidels, would there still be 61% of Americans against the idea?
  
  I'm inclined to believe the answer would be "No" for Christian extremists, "No" to Jewish extremists (due to a general sensitivity to the plight of Jews arisen from a certain historical incident, but still a slightly less comfortable "No"), and "Yes" to any other religion. I also believe that if it was an extremist atheist group I'd be in jail or dead right now. Regardless of your views, the majority of Americans are God-fearing Christians. >.>