Is there really an upcoming meele nerf..?

• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-08-05 08:34

  Quote from Snowie Stormflower;1131782:

  Equipping Dual Cylinders in the 2nd Equipment slots means sacrificing potential for another skill set.
  
  And now I'm thinking of Guard Cylinder + Lance in one, with Shylien Magic Knuckles in the other.
  Now Giants got pretty much everything covered (except Puppetry).
  Dat versatility.

  
  
  Jack of all trades, master of none.
  
  Except in this case, you're losing out on a lot for "versatility".
  
  You also miss out on the best 2 talents, best 3 if you count guns.
  
  

  Quote from Snowie Stormflower;1131791:

  Using overkill as an example doesn't really help your case.
  If an enemy is a bit away you could just Water Cannon instead of moving to smash it.
  Easy access to Shock is also there.
  
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  Although we're all bickering over things we have little to no information about, we'll have to wait and see how it goes.

  
  
  Except 30k isn't overkill and Water cannon is underkill. It's a bad skill that does bad damage unless you overspecialize in it. So in this example, all you'd do is push it back and not kill it.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-08-05 08:45
  Unless frozen blast is elemental waved, it's pretty freaking trash compared to everything else.
  
  
  You are better off sandbursting blinkers. Or dragon.
  
  
  But then again if frozen blast hits, it does do a nice job, however the lol90% cap for frozen blast is stupid.
• wildk wrote on 2013-08-05 08:51
  As for shock I'm sure melees would rather have enemies charging towards them and wm in one go then lance charge back at them than having enemies' motion interrupted and positioning themselves instead for a good lance charge spot.
  
  Normal alch skills are pretty much only useful in Tara SMs. The update brings alch useful to a global level but only if you specialize in it ie. dual cylinders.
• Azareel wrote on 2013-08-06 01:08

  Quote from Slayerj;1131630:

  Giants have Melee, Fighter, Alch, Guns, and a meh of magic.
  Humans have EVERYTHING.
  Elves have almost EVERYTHING and still have their mounted rage not buy-able via reforges.

  
  
  This is a pretty misleading statement... What would be more accurate, when referring to available skillsets, is:
  
  Giants have everything except Archery.
  Humans have everything.
  Elves have everything except Lances, but also poor Melee.
• Syr wrote on 2013-08-06 01:10

  Quote from Azareel;1132018:

  Giants have everything except Archery.
  Humans have everything.
  Elves have everything except Lances, but also poor Melee.

  
  
  Giant Mage is a bit more heavy on the mana, while Elf Mage is a bit more AP-intensive with the bolts and IS Mana Cost is lower.
• Azareel wrote on 2013-08-06 01:30

  Quote from Syr;1132020:

  Giant Mage is a bit more heavy on the mana, while Elf Mage is a bit more AP-intensive with the bolts and IS Mana Cost is lower.

  
  
  But, that doesn't really impact their use of the skillsets tremendously. Elf Melee gets special mention because the difference is easily large enough to impact the usability of the skillset.
• Azareel wrote on 2013-08-06 01:30

  Quote from Syr;1132020:

  Giant Mage is a bit more heavy on the mana, while Elf Mage is a bit more AP-intensive with the bolts and IS Mana Cost is lower.

  
  
  But, that doesn't really impact their use of the skillsets tremendously. Elf Melee gets special mention because the difference is easily large enough to impact the usability of the skillset.
• Magenera wrote on 2013-08-06 01:36
  I thought the only reason for Guard cylinder was shock if you are going with sword/lance/wand?
• Azareel wrote on 2013-08-06 01:38

  Quote from Magenera;1132040:

  I thought the only reason for Guard cylinder was shock if you are going with sword/lance/wand?

  
  
  Barrier Spikes, Frozen Blast, Wind Blast, Life Drain, Sand Burst, Rain Casting...
  
  If you keep a guard cylinder equipped and only use it for Shock, that's your loss.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-08-06 01:50

  Quote from Azareel;1132043:

  If you keep a guard cylinder equipped and use it, that's your loss.

  
  
  Fixed that for you.
  
  Perhaps this is the upcoming melee nerf? :0
• Kaeporo wrote on 2013-08-06 01:51

  Quote from Gensokyou;1132049:

  Fixed that for you.
  
  Perhaps this is the upcoming melee nerf? :0

  
  
  Which shield would you use if not the Guard Cylinder?
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-08-06 01:56

  Quote from Kaeporo;1132051:

  Which shield would you use if not the Guard Cylinder?

  
  
  By use it, I mean use the skills. +15% balance is pretty nice, I guess.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2013-08-06 02:06

  Quote from Gensokyou;1132052:

  By use it, I mean use the skills. +15% balance is pretty nice, I guess.

  
  
  Regardless, why would anyone even use any form of melee when they could instead opt for master race puppetry?
  
  It's just so much better than everything else, especially when you don't use reforges.
  
  Giant Warriors might as well throw down Shock or Frozen Wave while the Puppeteers get all the kills.
• ewire123 wrote on 2013-08-06 02:09

  Quote from Gensokyou;1132052:

  By use it, I mean use the skills. +15% balance is pretty nice, I guess.

  
  
  You mad puppet don't have access to nice utility that alchemy offer? :whoops: poor 2 hander weapon :(
  
  
  Shock,life drain, sandburst, raincast, barrier spike, windblast.....oh man can't wait for guard cylinder hybrid.
• Gensokyou wrote on 2013-08-06 02:11

  Quote from ewire123;1132057:

  You mad puppet don't have access to nice utility that alchemy offer? :whoops: poor 2 hander weapon :(
  
  
  Shock,life drain, sandburst, raincast, barrier spike, windblast.....oh man can't wait for guard cylinder hybrid.

  
  
  Yes, i'm totally mad. Especially when I can hit tab and have access to it at full damage.