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Tropa wrote on 2013-09-06 16:44
Quote from Gensokyou;1144966:
That's what my thoughts were. 3k ap for free basically? Damn.
If it's true though, I'll be in the same boat as Aubog after 1~2k more levels.
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ewire123 wrote on 2013-09-06 18:04
Quote from Aubog007;1144856:
Mabi is one of the slowest MMO's on the market to reach endgame actually.
No such thing as end game since mabi have no level cap. New skillset and better equipment out and new harder content etc.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2013-09-06 18:11
Quote from ewire123;1144982:
No such thing as end game since mabi have no level cap. New skillset and better equipment out and new harder content etc.
I meant in the point of "riding the wave"
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ewire123 wrote on 2013-09-06 18:23
End game to me is not about having the most AP. it about reforge. You need reforge to be endgame and solo All 8 round of MA or lord.
You can be 25k level and still lose to that 10k level guy with nice reforged gear.
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Tropa wrote on 2013-09-06 18:24
Quote from ewire123;1144995:
End game to me is not about having the most AP. it about reforge. You need reforge to be endgame and solo All 8 round of MA or lord.
You can be 25k level and still lose to that 10k level guy with nice reforged gear.
End-game to me is reaching your skill's/talent's potential.
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Aubog007 wrote on 2013-09-06 18:25
Quote from ewire123;1144995:
End game to me is not about having the most AP. it about reforge. You need reforge to be endgame and solo All 8 round of MA or lord.
You can be 25k level and still lose to that 10k level guy with nice reforged gear.
You just need raincasting and proper juggling techniques with a raincasting reforged boot.
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Kaeporo wrote on 2013-09-06 18:27
Quote from ewire123;1144995:
End game to me is not about having the most AP. it about reforge. You need reforge to be endgame and solo All 8 round of MA or lord.
You can be 25k level and still lose to that 10k level guy with nice reforged gear.
You need to not pigeonhole yourself with an intricate construct of fictitious limitations to be end-game.
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Tropa wrote on 2013-09-06 18:36
* 재능 ì €ë„ì´ ì¶”ê°€ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
* ê° ìž¬ëŠ¥ë³„ 초보, 용병, ìƒê¸‰, ë‹¬ì¸ ìž¬ëŠ¥ 타ì´í‹€ íšë“시
해당 ì €ë„ì„ íšë“하게 ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Talent Journals Added
You will reciever journals whenever <초보>,<용병>,<ìƒê¸‰>,<달ì¸> talent titles are obtained for each talent.
* 재능 ì €ë„ íšë“시 숨겨진 ë³´ìƒìœ¼ë¡œ APê°€ 지급ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
(초보ìžì˜ 경우 조금 ë” ë§Žì€ AP를 지급 받게 ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
AP will be given as a hidden award upon receiving these talent journals
* 단, ížˆë“ ìž¬ëŠ¥ê³¼ ì œë¡œ 재능 타ì´í‹€ì€ ì œì™¸ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Hidden Talents and Zero Talents are exempt
* ì´ˆë³´ìž ì œí•œ ë ˆë²¨ì´ 1000 미만으로 ìƒí–¥ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Beginner Level cap has been raised to 1000
* 누ì ë ˆë²¨ 50ì´ìƒì˜ 초보ìžëŠ” 새ë„ìš° í¬ë¦¬ìŠ¤íƒˆì„ ì§€ê¸‰ 받습니다.
Beginners with total level 50 or higher will receive shadow crystals
* 초보ìžê°€ 소환한 íŽ«ì€ ë‚˜ì˜¤ì˜ ì¶•ë³µ 보너스 효과를 ì ìš© 받습니다.
pets summoned by beginners will receive nao's blessing effect
* 서버 통합으로 ì´ë¦„ì´ í•œê¸€ 6ìž ì´ìƒì´ ëœ ìºë¦í„°ì—게
게임 ë‚´ì—서 쪽지를 보내거나 약혼/ê²°í˜¼ì„ í• ìˆ˜ ì—†ë˜ ë¬¸ì œê°€ ìˆ˜ì •ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
fixed a issue where you could not send PMs or marry characters that had names longer than 6 characters due to Server merging
* 깨진 ë‹¬ê±€ì˜ ê²¹ì³ì§€ëŠ” 개수가 5ê°œì—서 20개로 변경ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Broken eggs now stack to 20
* NPC나 몬스터로 ë³€ì‹ í•œ ìƒíƒœì—서 ë“œë ˆìŠ¤ë£¸ ì´ìš©ì´ ê°€ëŠ¥í–ˆë˜ ë¬¸ì œê°€ ìˆ˜ì •ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Fixed a bug where users can use the dressroom while transformed as a NPC or a mob
* 마리오네트 ì¡°ì¢…ìˆ ìŠ¤í‚¬ì˜ ì¿¨íƒ€ìž„ ê°ì†Œ 효과가 ì ìš©ë˜ì§€ ì•Šë˜ ë¬¸ì œê°€ ìˆ˜ì •ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Fixed a issue where the cooldown time reduction effect were not being applies for <마리오네트 ì¡°ì¢…ìˆ > skill
ì¼ë¶€ 마스터리 스킬 효과를 ì ìš© 받는 무기를 ì°©ìš©í•˜ê³ ìŠ¤í‚¬ ëží¬ë¥¼ 올릴 경우
ì¦ê°€í•˜ëŠ” 수치가 ë°˜ì˜ë˜ì§€ ì•Šê³ , 무기를 ì°©ìš© í•´ì œí•˜ë©´ ì˜¤ížˆë ¤ 수치가 ë–¨ì–´ì§€ë˜ ë¬¸ì œê°€
ìˆ˜ì •ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Fixed a bug with certain mastery skills, where raising a mastery skill while equipping a wepon where that mastery skill applies to did not have the bonus stats applied. Instead decreased stats upon unequipping the item.
Thanks to ca25nada for the translations!
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Syr wrote on 2013-09-06 18:56
Quote from Tropa;1144996:
End-game to me is reaching your skill's/talent's potential.
I concur.
170 AP reward for a Master Talent? That's a bit insane if you ask me. It's like you get a 3~10% refund of your AP back top lel
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Robinhood wrote on 2013-09-06 19:51
That's more ap for all of cooking
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ewire123 wrote on 2013-09-06 22:08
Quote from Kaeporo;1144998:
You need to not pigeonhole yourself with an intricate construct of fictitious limitations to be end-game.
Prove me wrong then sir. That my definition of end game base on my own experience. You need reforge to be end game, no if ,and ,or but.
Quote from Aubog007;1144997:
You just need raincasting and proper juggling techniques with a raincasting reforged boot.
Still need reforge, yes?
The guy with more reforge will still kill faster than you and deal more damage, and by mine own definition, more "endgame" than you.
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Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-09-06 22:24
Quote from Tropa;1145005:
* 재능 ì €ë„ì´ ì¶”ê°€ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
* ê° ìž¬ëŠ¥ë³„ 초보, 용병, ìƒê¸‰, ë‹¬ì¸ ìž¬ëŠ¥ 타ì´í‹€ íšë“시
해당 ì €ë„ì„ íšë“하게 ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Talent Journals Added
You will reciever journals whenever <초보>,<용병>,<ìƒê¸‰>,<달ì¸> talent titles are obtained for each talent.
* 재능 ì €ë„ íšë“시 숨겨진 ë³´ìƒìœ¼ë¡œ APê°€ 지급ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
(초보ìžì˜ 경우 조금 ë” ë§Žì€ AP를 지급 받게 ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
AP will be given as a hidden award upon receiving these talent journals
* 단, ížˆë“ ìž¬ëŠ¥ê³¼ ì œë¡œ 재능 타ì´í‹€ì€ ì œì™¸ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Hidden Talents and Zero Talents are exempt
* ì´ˆë³´ìž ì œí•œ ë ˆë²¨ì´ 1000 미만으로 ìƒí–¥ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Beginner Level cap has been raised to 1000
* 누ì ë ˆë²¨ 50ì´ìƒì˜ 초보ìžëŠ” 새ë„ìš° í¬ë¦¬ìŠ¤íƒˆì„ ì§€ê¸‰ 받습니다.
Beginners with total level 50 or higher will receive shadow crystals
* 초보ìžê°€ 소환한 íŽ«ì€ ë‚˜ì˜¤ì˜ ì¶•ë³µ 보너스 효과를 ì ìš© 받습니다.
pets summoned by beginners will receive nao's blessing effect
* 서버 통합으로 ì´ë¦„ì´ í•œê¸€ 6ìž ì´ìƒì´ ëœ ìºë¦í„°ì—게
게임 ë‚´ì—서 쪽지를 보내거나 약혼/ê²°í˜¼ì„ í• ìˆ˜ ì—†ë˜ ë¬¸ì œê°€ ìˆ˜ì •ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
fixed a issue where you could not send PMs or marry characters that had names longer than 6 characters due to Server merging
* 깨진 ë‹¬ê±€ì˜ ê²¹ì³ì§€ëŠ” 개수가 5ê°œì—서 20개로 변경ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Broken eggs now stack to 20
* NPC나 몬스터로 ë³€ì‹ í•œ ìƒíƒœì—서 ë“œë ˆìŠ¤ë£¸ ì´ìš©ì´ ê°€ëŠ¥í–ˆë˜ ë¬¸ì œê°€ ìˆ˜ì •ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Fixed a bug where users can use the dressroom while transformed as a NPC or a mob
* 마리오네트 ì¡°ì¢…ìˆ ìŠ¤í‚¬ì˜ ì¿¨íƒ€ìž„ ê°ì†Œ 효과가 ì ìš©ë˜ì§€ ì•Šë˜ ë¬¸ì œê°€ ìˆ˜ì •ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Fixed a issue where the cooldown time reduction effect were not being applies for <마리오네트 ì¡°ì¢…ìˆ > skill
ì¼ë¶€ 마스터리 스킬 효과를 ì ìš© 받는 무기를 ì°©ìš©í•˜ê³ ìŠ¤í‚¬ ëží¬ë¥¼ 올릴 경우
ì¦ê°€í•˜ëŠ” 수치가 ë°˜ì˜ë˜ì§€ ì•Šê³ , 무기를 ì°©ìš© í•´ì œí•˜ë©´ ì˜¤ížˆë ¤ 수치가 ë–¨ì–´ì§€ë˜ ë¬¸ì œê°€
ìˆ˜ì •ë©ë‹ˆë‹¤.
Fixed a bug with certain mastery skills, where raising a mastery skill while equipping a wepon where that mastery skill applies to did not have the bonus stats applied. Instead decreased stats upon unequipping the item.
Thanks to ca25nada for the translations!
You missed the OP. Herro beat you to it and gave some of the things that ca missed here.
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Tropa wrote on 2013-09-06 22:29
Quote from Kingofrunes;1145076:
You missed the OP. Herro beat you to it and gave some of the things that ca missed here.
Ken said to post it
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Kaeporo wrote on 2013-09-06 23:12
Quote from ewire123;1145071:
Prove me wrong then sir. That my definition of end game base on my own experience. You need reforge to be end game, no if ,and ,or but.
Still need reforge, yes?
The guy with more reforge will still kill faster than you and deal more damage, and by mine own definition, more "endgame" than you.
You cannot define end-game as "dealing more damage than anyone else" and then criticize one of many mechanics which would otherwise allow you to do so.
You'll never be the best at everything and there's only room for one person at the head of a single thing, therefore nobody is end-game. I define the term as one's ability to reliably complete content, often reserved for experienced players, relative to the scope of the community's requirements for effective supply of resources to meet demand.
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Herro wrote on 2013-09-06 23:15
Quote from Kingofrunes;1145076:
You missed the OP. Herro beat you to it and gave some of the things that ca missed here.
Ironwoman*
I just passed it along to you.