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Murasaki wrote on 2013-09-28 19:56
I personally prefer those threads as stickies as well.
Even if they're not informative, they're definitely popular threads, and having them easily accessible was a plus. Having them jumbled among other threads may make the threads a bit more annoying to find, and subsequently have the effect of less activity in the forum instead of more. People always have something new to post in (most of) those threads. They're different than a lot of threads in that the topic doesn't end up being "over" after a while. Even if they're not informative threads, they're still relevant to people, and I think having them in a nice little convenient cluster was probably better.
I'm all for seeing how it works out, naturally, but I really liked not having to shuffle through other threads to take a peek at those popular ones.
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Taycat wrote on 2013-09-28 19:58
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This is probably the best way to go about it.
I personally just subscribed to these threads.
Some people don't know how to subscribe though, you gotta remember that.
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M wrote on 2013-09-28 20:05
Quote from Taycat;1153599:
Some people don't know how to subscribe though, you gotta remember that.
But it's so easy!
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Click here:
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Then click here to view your subscribed threads in your own personalized sticky-space :D
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Insomnia wrote on 2013-09-28 20:06
Quote from Ashikoki;1153486:
It is much healthier to cycle out old threads and just make a new one. If it is popular, it will never leave the front page. If it isn't, it'll die. That is how forums work.
If the discussion is to be revived, then simply make a new thread. Contrary to certain individual beliefs, I find having more threads a positive thing. Will there be duplicate live threads? Sometimes it will happen by accident. That can easily be cleaned up.
Informative threads that are too important to keep off the first page, but don't get regular bumps to help it find a permanent spot, should be stickied. Other threads can cause quite a few problems. Good examples are mostly from the Entertainment section. The threads often die or the opening post content becomes incorrect/outdated. The best way to remedy this is to allow the community to create its' own filter and manage their own unofficial/general threads. If they really are popular, and don't die out, then why are you guys even complaining ;_;
In other news I also removed the server status thread. In my rush I had believed it was a resourceful thread to check on. On second glance that doesn't seem to be the case.
Major reason why a single "Post your skill ranks/character stats." thread exists is because you can keep track of your progress as well as compare it with others in the past/present and discuss equipment/enchant setup and so on. Personally, I like going through that thread gawking at other people's numbers even if they're months/years old. By having multiple threads for this particular topic you pretty much make it e-peen flaunting, which
contrary to certain individual beliefs isn't what it's all about.
Now you're forcing me to bookmark threads instead of conveniently having them at the top of the board, just because you think stickies are all about informativeness and it just so happens that Mabinogi sub-forum has none.
You're trying to artificially make the forum appear more active than it really is. Redundancy is not good. That's all.
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Taycat wrote on 2013-09-28 20:07
Well I knew before, but I'm talking about other people. That should be made publicly known for the future, right?
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Ashikoki wrote on 2013-09-28 21:22
Subscriptions make it easier to follow a thread. This isn't about redundancy, but more about a general thread reducing the validity of threads that could have been. I've seen so many of this.
These threads kill good discussions. Duplicate threads are a non-issue. We'll just deal with them. All inane threads will bury themselves from lack of response.
However, I can see why the character skill and progress would be a resource and I'll re-sticky it. Everything else I'll have to determine later when I get back tomorrow.
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M wrote on 2013-09-28 22:24
Quote from Ashikoki;1153614:
Subscriptions make it easier to follow a thread. This isn't about redundancy, but more about a general thread reducing the validity of threads that could have been. I've seen so many of this.
These threads kill good discussions. Duplicate threads are a non-issue. We'll just deal with them. All inane threads will bury themselves from lack of response.
However, I can see why the character skill and progress would be a resource and I'll re-sticky it. Everything else I'll have to determine later when I get back tomorrow.
seems like a fair compromise until people get the hang of the subscription system
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Aliyah wrote on 2013-09-28 23:08
The tumblr one bothers me especially because bean rua can get new threads so fast, it could get pushed down really fast. And no offense to the bean rua crowd, I would prefer not to sift through them.
As far as subscription goes, yes we can subscribe, and I most likely will now. However, it is a bit inconvenient. Most of the time, unless I want to post, I wont bother taking the extra time to log in. It was easy to just look at the few threads I really check frequently (from my phone, etc...) because they were stickied. It's not a big deal, but it is a bit annoying.
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Osayidan wrote on 2013-09-28 23:24
The tumblr one is actually the one I'm happy to see not sticky anymore.
There's no way in hell I want to look through that thread. If someone found something funny or interesting they should make a thread (within reasonable limits...). That's what Bean Rua is there for.
Another useful tool is the most active threads list on the front page, it shows the largest threads on the site, which pretty much coincide with all these threads that were un-stickied.
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Gensokyou wrote on 2013-09-28 23:51
Quote from Ashikoki;1153614:
Subscriptions make it easier to follow a thread. This isn't about redundancy, but more about a general thread reducing the validity of threads that could have been. I've seen so many of this.
These threads kill good discussions. Duplicate threads are a non-issue. We'll just deal with them. All inane threads will bury themselves from lack of response.
However, I can see why the character skill and progress would be a resource and I'll re-sticky it. Everything else I'll have to determine later when I get back tomorrow.
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Asking a legitimate question then - Should I make a thread for every discussion about every accomplishment, failure, etc. that I experience, because I wanted a discussion and you don't like general threads?
There's also just as many good forums that thrive and work better with popular threads stickied.
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Milk wrote on 2013-09-28 23:58
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Asking a legitimate question then - Should I make a thread for every discussion about every accomplishment, failure, etc. that I experience, because I wanted a discussion and you don't like general threads?
There's also just as many good forums that thrive and work better with popular threads stickied.
There is no rule against you doing so. But I feel like it would just promote more un-organization and flood the forums. And we all know how people react when people start flooding the forum with unnecessary threads.
On another note, love how the Rua hentai joke thread remains stickied. Even though its not informative at all and only new members click it.
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Gensokyou wrote on 2013-09-29 00:07
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There is no rule against you doing so. But I feel like it would just promote more un-organization and flood the forums. And we all know how people react when people start flooding the forum with unnecessary threads.
Perhaps that's why these threads being stickied arn't such a bad thing :o
There's no social conventions or internet rules about stickied threads. A stickied thread goes at the top of the page. That's all there is to it.
On another note, love how the Rua hentai joke thread remains stickied. Even though its not informative at all and only new members click it.
That and the 1 million replies thread. That's not informative and if it stays stickied even though it's only purpose is basically to spam, then the other useful threads in the mabinogi talk section should be restickied.
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Slayerj wrote on 2013-09-29 00:36
Quote from Gensokyou;1153652:
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Asking a legitimate question then - Should I make a thread for every discussion about every accomplishment, failure, etc. that I experience, because I wanted a discussion and you don't like general threads?
There's also just as many good forums that thrive and work better with popular threads stickied.
I'm kinda with you on this. The entire reason I made my thread was in hopes it might be stickied. Why? Because a while before I made it, I noticed SO FREAKING MANY "Mabi needs dis dis and dis! And not dis! and remove dis! and dis and dis!!!!" threads. It was nice seeing them at first at what people thought and wanted for the game.... but after a while it felt like a giant heap of spam to see the same thing re-posted by someone else basically with a few minor changes as it's own thread...that quickly died.
After mine got stickied that was still a thing...but it died down and when anyone did post something like that they were directed to the thread where so many other people had posted ideas. Many who would have never made just a thread for it but felt fine posting in an existing one.
The only real problem with unsticking most of those threads is the moment some new event or something comes out they're going to get buried under a pile of "x thing about x event" "your thoughts on x event" "what the hell is x event?" "What did you get form x event!". Just like how when the saga's were first coming out, you had a new thread every week and even though it did show the forums were alive....it was a pain in the ass to open up that part of the forums and instantly see one every single week until the end...when a temporary sticky would have solved that problem with a thread with page 1 kept up to date.
And like you said, you can post for every single one of your accomplishments you want a thread on for a discussion....and....clog the hell out of the forums, or they could remain in that one thread...like a smart idea.
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Gensokyou wrote on 2013-09-29 01:02
I also don't see how it doesn't promote activity. I mean, by nature of those general threads they promote posting. Sure, you don't open up a new thread every time, but that's a GOOD THING. I don't want to see a thread by such and such being all like "hey, so i got rank 1 heavy armor mastery, lel". If you want to actually discuss the skill or whatever, you can still open up a new thread. It's no big deal.
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Tropa wrote on 2013-09-29 02:10
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That and the 1 million replies thread. That's not informative and if it stays stickied even though it's only purpose is basically to spam, then the other useful threads in the mabinogi talk section should be restickied.
Exactly this, I never got why those threads are still stickied.