Mabinogi KR Suggestion of the Month No.1 (September Edition)

• Kurayami wrote on 2013-10-01 18:02

  Quote from Osu;1154645:

  I believe that [S]swords[/S] all melee weapons need a bit of an overhaul. It's truly ridiculous and offsetting how the best swords in the game can't even really stack up to lances because they pierce.. and if they don't want to make them stronger, they should at least make more weapon-based skills that are exclusive.. even if only one or two per weapon.. It honestly annoys me like hell to see -everyone- carrying a lance when they get out of something
  

  
  
  Yes please^
  You don't even have to nerf lances, just make 1h/2h swords as viable for players that like melee combat
  I personally hate lances with their slow attack speed, range limit and cant use defense and counter
  
  If I made a suggestion it would be basically everything this guy just said. Maybe a melee hero talent?
• Krystalys wrote on 2013-10-01 18:06

  Quote from Kurayami;1154680:

  If I made a suggestion it would be basically everything this guy just said. Maybe a melee hero talent?

  
  
  Melee is already it's own talent so... :what:
• Kurayami wrote on 2013-10-01 18:08

  Quote from Krystalys;1154682:

  Melee is already it's own talent so... :what:

  
  Melee hero .... as in a druid, vate , diva etc equivalent.
• Tropa wrote on 2013-10-01 18:09

  Quote from Kurayami;1154683:

  Melee hero .... as in a druid, vate , diva etc equivalent.

  
  
  I would love to see a Warrior hero + more Melee skills, current melee is so dull.
• Krystalys wrote on 2013-10-01 18:14

  Quote from Kurayami;1154683:

  Melee hero .... as in a druid, vate , diva etc equivalent.

  
  
  Yes, but those are all triple combination talents. Melee is a single talent, and already included in some of the already done ones. Master Chef for example. Professor J for example. So uh. What? Your proposal is lacking.
• Osu wrote on 2013-10-01 18:25

  Quote from Kurayami;1154680:

  If I made a suggestion it would be basically everything this guy just said. Maybe a melee hero talent?

  
  x3 well thank you, it's nice to have support. c:
  

  Quote from Krystalys;1154686:

  Yes, but those are all triple combination talents. Melee is a single talent, and already included in some of the already done ones. Master Chef for example. Professor J for example. So uh. What? Your proposal is lacking.

  
  When you see the heroes being named off though.. Druid only adds new magic, diva music, and vate alchemy, etc., etc. So clearly he's wanting something that's mainly melee- so as to add new melee skills, but they would undoubtedly mix it in with other talents as well.
• Krystalys wrote on 2013-10-01 18:31

  Quote from Osu;1154687:

  
  When you see the heroes being named off though.. Druid only adds new magic, diva music, and vate alchemy, etc., etc. So clearly he's wanting something that's mainly melee- so as to add new melee skills, but they would undoubtedly mix it in with other talents as well.

  
  
  Yes but "go make something" isn't an idea you can pass to a developer. Even "go make something with melee in it" isn't. It has no substance, it can not be worked, it can not even be measured because by that craptasm of a requirement given two heroes already meet that request. There's a reason the OP asks for specifics and details not idiot level "i wants". Anything less isn't worth the electricity wasted spewing it out and downloading it over and over while trying to get to real ideas.
  
  The point of this thread is to give ideas, not tell Korea to come up with new ideas.
• Osu wrote on 2013-10-01 19:23

  Quote from Krystalys;1154688:

  Yes but "go make something" isn't an idea you can pass to a developer. Even "go make something with melee in it" isn't. It has no substance, it can not be worked, it can not even be measured because by that craptasm of a requirement given two heroes already meet that request. There's a reason the OP asks for specifics and details not idiot level "i wants". Anything less isn't worth the electricity wasted spewing it out and downloading it over and over while trying to get to real ideas.
  
  The point of this thread is to give ideas, not tell Korea to come up with new ideas.

  
  
  Ugh. Did you even really pay attention? What he's been trying to explain is just to you, not something as a serious suggestion. Or in the least, not a suggestion for direct submission to Korea. The line right before that one said he'd suggest what I suggested, if he made a suggestion. You really need to stop being so anal all the time and learn to mind your own business- and also realize, even if it slightly deviates from the initial request in the beginning, this general forum is a place of discussion; not 100% rules and regulations. It's nice to stick to those guidelines, yes, but your types of replies are exactly what derail threads in the first place. So learn to let it go.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-10-01 19:27

  Quote from Slayerj;1154669:

  Did I give enough detail or should I do more after I wake up from my nap?

  
  
  Wouldn't hurt to add more details. =)
• Krystalys wrote on 2013-10-01 19:34

  Quote from Osu;1154695:

  your types of replies are exactly what derail threads in the first place. So learn to let it go.

  
  
  Actually if people pay enough attention to read "my type" of replies and don't post garbage for other idiots to "me too" in the first place I've done the thread a service by curtailing the tardage up front and increasing the signal to noise ratio overall. Clarifying what a thread is trying to accomplish isn't a derailment.
  
  As for attention deficits, he yes pleased what you said, but then threw out a half-assed extension of yours with no supporting details or explanation of what it would entail. Hence me pointing out that it wasn't actionable with that little detail.
  
  As for minding my own business - This thread is about getting ideas across. Ensuring quality ideas rise to the top is the business of every player with a vested interest in the game. And there's no way to know if someone might've had a quality idea when they only post a random half thought.
• Tarvos wrote on 2013-10-01 19:34
  I'd like them to make a Necromancy skillset.
  
  I'll try to keep it brief but detailed, of course this is just basic. I'd prefer DevCat actually give their own take on my idea. They're the ones coding after all and they'll know the game's limitations.
  
  

  
  
  • Necromancy involves summoning undead monsters to do your bidding while the master gives support.
    
  • The Master controls Slave monsters though a Mastery Skill, similar to other skillsets.
    
  • They are controlled similar to pets. As well there should be certain skills restricted to certain monsters.
    
  • Monster Damage is based off of Will and Int, as well as the types of monsters summoned.
    
  • The Master buffs the Slave monsters with certain skills similar to bard, but they're more potent. In exchange they only effect monsters under the Master's control.
    
  • Some monsters can be summoned in small packs (skeletons maybe?) while some are single summon (Ghosts, etc.).
    
  • Master can also cast Debuff spells on monsters.
    

  
  
  This is beneficial to the game because Necromancy is in our lore already (Esras in G2 anyone? Master Lich seems to be a necromancer as well) and Int+Will for dmg is something I think a lot of players could get behind because magic and fighter go great together. I see a good deal of players play that way. This also makes the skillset Elf and Giant friendly as well.
  
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  My other suggestion is make more incentives to visit dungeons.
  
  Crank up the exp gained at the end for one. Change the pass system as well. I think it would be a lot better if getting a pass once means we can forever access that dungeon through a board (they can put another stone tablet next to the boss rush record or something). It gives completionists a reason to go and get all the passes through multiple runs, newbies a reason to try out all the dungeons at the very least once, and saves us the trouble of having to rehunt passes. More people will do them if you make them more available!
  
  In exchange, add new enchants/items, but because of the new accessibility, turn down the drop rates slightly to encourage more people to re-run, making items more valuable. I want to see those lobbies filled up again like the old days.
  
  A daily dungeon quest would be pretty cool too. One dungeon a day, any difficulty. Revolves in a pattern. (also please fill in the gaps in difficulties in Math and Coill. That's always bugged the shit out of me)
• Zeo wrote on 2013-10-01 20:03
  My suggestion is something that won't do much in Mabinogi, but...
  
  [SPOILER="Macha Transformation"]Some of us would like to see Macha transformation actually being the original size and have the idle pose, because as of now, in NA (and all other foreign servers too) can get Macha transformation but when we transformed into her, she was smaller than usual and she was standing stiff as a board and she isn't even breathing.
  
  Here is the image below of what Macha transformation currently look like, compared to 17 years old.
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/7VHly7k.jpg]

  
  
  As you can tell, she's smaller than the original Macha and she came with no animation at all.
  
  Here's the second image of what Macha SHOULD look like when you transformed into her. (used same character at age 17 for the size comparison as well)
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/htEGumi.jpg]

  [/SPOILER]
• Osu wrote on 2013-10-01 20:19

  Quote from Krystalys;1154699:

  Actually if people pay enough attention to read "my type" of replies and don't post garbage for other idiots to "me too" in the first place I've done the thread a service by curtailing the tardage up front and increasing the signal to noise ratio overall. Clarifying what a thread is trying to accomplish isn't a derailment.
  
  As for attention deficits, he yes pleased what you said, but then threw out a half-assed extension of yours with no supporting details or explanation of what it would entail. Hence me pointing out that it wasn't actionable with that little detail.
  
  As for minding my own business - This thread is about getting ideas across. Ensuring quality ideas rise to the top is the business of every player with a vested interest in the game. And there's no way to know if someone might've had a quality idea when they only post a random half thought.

  
  
  Alright.. on some levels I agree with what you're saying.. but I really don't think Kenero minds a little light discussion here and there, and I also believe that you could have a much more graceful approach to setting people in the right direction.. "idiots" is a prime example of what isn't needed when you're trying to persuade someone to your side.. or on the forums in general, for that matter.
  
  I don't mean to completely put you down or anything, you could have an OCD with guidelines like I do with making typos, who knows. xD But the fact of the matter is~ we need to keep it civilized, alright? O: I think anyone would agree a cheerier demeanor gets a point across much better than a foul one. :P
  
  

  Quote from Kenero;1154696:

  Wouldn't hurt to add more details. =)

  
  Wait.. wasn't his thing like, huge? owo So that would mean mine needs much more, wouldn't it? xD;
• ＣＩＲＮＯ wrote on 2013-10-01 20:27
  Oh, I do have a very good suggestion.
  
  Remove that stupid healing scale. Healing is as shafted as it could be already.
  
  For example:
  
  Pre-enlightenment period, healing was a flat rate of 40. With the party healing title, full set of trinity and at least 3 - 4 healing reforges, you can easily reach 160 - 180 HP per healing bolt.
  
  Post-enlightenment period, healing is changed to a scale of 35 - 45 HP. With the very same set up, the healing bolts now only heal up to 90 - 100 HP, and rarely goes over 150 HP per healing bolt.
  
  Think about it, healing is as shafted as it is already. People are even commenting about how pointless the skill is when you have a damn Nimbus to heal like, 150 HP per SUMMON. Come on, if I'm willing to put 207 AP into it, I'm very sure it's supposed to be better.
  
  My request is to increase the healing efficiency and make it a flat rate. Nothing sucks more than the individual that you're healing to die to something pathetic because your healing bolt decides its time to hit it's minimal possible amount of healing HP in that single click.
  
  In all seriousness, this is pretty important for most clerics in this game, and I do hope they would balance this so that healing is actually a skill worth ranking for.
  
  EXAMPLE:
  
  I have 213 M.Atk right now, so that adds 21 extra healing HP (21 HP)
  I have 3 healing reforges, 2 level 1s and 1 level 5 (25 HP *2)+(29 HP)
  I have R1 healing (35 - 45 HP)
  I have a full complete set of Trinity wear (+20% Healing Enhance)
  I have the Master of Party Healing title equipped (+20% Healing Enhance)
  I have a normal healing wand (+5 HP)
  
  When the total is added together, I should have (140 - 150 HP)(20%)(20%) which brings the total to 201.6 HP - 216 HP healed per click.
  
  However, the current situation shows that I can only heal 84 - 162 HP per click, and it always lands between 95 - 100 HP on an average thus I'm losing 140% - 30% extra HP that I am supposed to heal.
  
  Where the hell is this 140% - 30% extra HP, man? That's a heck load of HP I'm supposed to heal going missing.
  
  BTW, now you're probably wondering why the heck do I even bother healing that much...
  
  Take 201.6 and take 10% of that. I heal 20 wounds per click. All of a sudden, healing seems to be so much more of a better alternative than First Aid...
• Kenero wrote on 2013-10-01 21:03

  Quote from ＣＩＲＮＯ;1154714:

  Oh, I do have a very good suggestion.
  
  Remove that stupid healing scale. Healing is as shafted as it could be already.
  
  For example:
  
  Pre-enlightenment period, healing was a flat rate of 40. With the party healing title, full set of trinity and at least 3 - 4 healing reforges, you can easily reach 160 - 180 HP per healing bolt.
  
  Post-enlightenment period, healing is changed to a scale of 35 - 45 HP. With the very same set up, the healing bolts now only heal up to 90 - 100 HP, and rarely goes over 150 HP per healing bolt.
  
  Think about it, healing is as shafted as it is already. People are even commenting about how pointless the skill is when you have a damn Nimbus to heal like, 150 HP per SUMMON. Come on, if I'm willing to put 207 AP into it, I'm very sure it's supposed to be better.
  
  My request is to increase the healing efficiency and make it a flat rate. Nothing sucks more than the individual that you're healing to die to something pathetic because your healing bolt decides its time to hit it's minimal possible amount of healing HP in that single click.
  
  In all seriousness, this is pretty important for most clerics in this game, and I do hope they would balance this so that healing is actually a skill worth ranking for.
  
  EXAMPLE:
  
  I have 213 M.Atk right now, so that adds 21 extra healing HP (21 HP)
  I have 3 healing reforges, 2 level 1s and 1 level 5 (25 HP *2)+(29 HP)
  I have R1 healing (35 - 45 HP)
  I have a full complete set of Trinity wear (+20% Healing Enhance)
  I have the Master of Party Healing title equipped (+20% Healing Enhance)
  I have a normal healing wand (+5 HP)
  
  When the total is added together, I should have (140 - 150 HP)(20%)(20%) which brings the total to 201.6 HP - 216 HP healed per click.
  
  However, the current situation shows that I can only heal 84 - 162 HP per click, and it always lands between 95 - 100 HP on an average thus I'm losing 140% - 30% extra HP that I am supposed to heal.
  
  Where the hell is this 140% - 30% extra HP, man? That's a heck load of HP I'm supposed to heal going missing.
  
  BTW, now you're probably wondering why the heck do I even bother healing that much...
  
  Take 201.6 and take 10% of that. I heal 20 wounds per click. All of a sudden, healing seems to be so much more of a better alternative than First Aid...

  
  
  Somebody once suggested there should be healing Mastery which increases, not only healing amount, but how much percent of wounds you heal, with rank 1 healing 80% of your healing spells cures wounds and with r1, finest bandage can heal 60% of your HP bar at once of wounds.