Weapon of choice for new melee/mage hybrid

• Syliara wrote on 2014-01-23 17:53

  Quote from xXCronoXx;1190885:

  Also What upgrade path would be best for the HLC and...err....I've Never Done Reforging Nor Do i Know anything of it but i keep hearing how important it is.

  
  
  Ill post the path when i get home. Reforging is a very very very costly process but it boosts your dmg by a loooooot if you get good ones. Its not essential bit I highly recommend investing in it.
• xXCronoXx wrote on 2014-01-23 17:56
  Alright Thank You For your Help U can post the Path on my Profile:bye:
• ragnaex wrote on 2014-01-24 16:33

  Quote from Nui;1190889:

  Ill post the path when i get home. Reforging is a very very very costly process but it boosts your dmg by a loooooot if you get good ones. Its not essential bit I highly recommend investing in it.

  
  
  You can also share these things with me, as I'm interested in these stuff too lol :cheer:
• Syliara wrote on 2014-01-24 18:38
  Forgot to do it ill do it later tonight.
• Syliara wrote on 2014-01-25 00:47
  [Image: http://puu.sh/6wXJ6.png]

  
  
  Gem Upgrade:
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/6wXKl.png]

  
  
  You are welcome to try artisan upgrade if you have the nx to waste but its really not worth it. Also keep in mind the first upgrade takes 5 max dura off right off the bat so make sure if ur enchanting it has decent dura.
  
  All of the upgrades are done at edern minus the last one which is done at colm (Emporium Special Modification) unless you do artisan which is done at edern. Emporium special modification also requires a marketplace modification coupon to do it.
  
  Source:
  http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Highlander_Claymore
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-01-25 05:08
  Remember, 2h is usually better because of reforging stats.
  If you don't plan to reforge, I'd just stick to dual wielding or lances.
• Syliara wrote on 2014-01-25 05:42

  Quote from ironwoman;1191393:

  Remember, 2h is usually better because of reforging stats.
  If you don't plan to reforge, I'd just stick to dual wielding or lances.

  
  
  I wouldnt waste my time with anything other than a r1 hlc since they are so common.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-01-25 05:52

  Quote from Nui;1191406:

  I wouldnt waste my time with anything other than a r1 hlc since they are so common.

  
  
  Hence why I mentioned reforges. If OP is planning to reforge, of course r1 hlc is a good choice.
  R1 hlc would mean nothing with no reforge.
• Syliara wrote on 2014-01-25 06:18

  Quote from ironwoman;1191410:

  Hence why I mentioned reforges. If OP is planning to reforge, of course r1 hlc is a good choice.
  R1 hlc would mean nothing with no reforge.

  
  
  Getting a decent reforge on hlc already r1 is easy tho. Couple mill and it already beats 1h's.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-01-25 19:41

  Quote from Nui;1191423:

  Getting a decent reforge on hlc already r1 is easy tho. Couple mill and it already beats 1h's.

  
  
  I guess that depends on one's definition of decent.
  To me, weapons should have elemental reforge, otherwise it's pretty meaningless.
  And elemental reforge is generally rarer than rank 3 or 2, although it's really pure luck.
• Syliara wrote on 2014-01-25 22:55

  Quote from ironwoman;1191574:

  I guess that depends on one's definition of decent.
  To me, weapons should have elemental reforge, otherwise it's pretty meaningless.
  And elemental reforge is generally rarer than rank 3 or 2, although it's really pure luck.

  
  
  Smash damage reforges and max dmg reforges can make it better than an unrecorded 1h and those aren't that rare to get. Personally I wouldn't settle for less than elemental 6 but that's just me.
• jimpatrick wrote on 2014-01-26 01:35
  i wouldn't suggest 2h or lance unless he wants to spend a lot and has 400+max without weapons cuz dual wield would win.ive been using melee since i started mabi till now.
• Syliara wrote on 2014-01-26 01:45

  Quote from jimpatrick;1191644:

  i wouldn't suggest 2h or lance unless he wants to spend a lot and has 400+max without weapons cuz dual wield would win.ive been using melee since i started mabi till now.

  
  
  Im keeping end game in mind anytime I do something. If you dont keep end game in mind you are wasting your time if you plan to use them for a while. I made a good hlc a while ago and it beat elsinore+focused rainbow and my max with barehands and gear is like 300 so u dont need that much barehanded max to beat dual weild with lances or hlc. Simply put dual weild is horribly obsolete compared to 2h and lance.
• jimpatrick wrote on 2014-01-26 02:18

  Quote from Nui;1191648:

  Im keeping end game in mind anytime I do something. If you dont keep end game in mind you are wasting your time if you plan to use them for a while. I made a good hlc a while ago and it beat elsinore+focused rainbow and my max with barehands and gear is like 300 so u dont need that much barehanded max to beat dual weild with lances or hlc. Simply put dual weild is horribly obsolete compared to 2h and lance.

  
  
  you were probably comparing them wrong.i already did a test before here 2h should have an upperhand there but it only beats dual wield by what 1k then dualwield would deal more with wm,non crit wm and non crit smash.cost of those two weapons is day and night.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-01-26 03:16

  Quote from jimpatrick;1191657:

  you were probably comparing them wrong.i already did a test before here 2h should have an upperhand there but it only beats dual wield by what 1k then dualwield would deal more with wm,non crit wm and non crit smash.cost of those two weapons is day and night.

  
  
  You gotta admit though, lances do outclass both.
  And the bad thing about dual wielding is that you gotta invest in two swords instead of one. Potentially double or more the cost of reforging a 2h weapon.
  
  The maximum damage output can be found out for your example. For dual wielding case, it's as follows: [(Base damage) + (First weapon damage) + (Second weapon damage)] x % Multiplier of corresponding skill. In your example, Base damage would have been 643 - 175 (average beam sword damage) - 8 (arbitrary factor) = 460. There's sword mastery too, and the base damage already has that. So (460 + 180 + 170) x 5.5 (50% bonus from your reforge) x 2.5 x 1.22 = 13587.75, which is actually lower than your screenshot. Probably minor error somewhere, but for dual wielding, you pretty much hit the peak of your smash damage there.
  For your HLC case, 589 x 6 x 1.55 x 3 = 16433.1, meaning your smash wasn't really close to your potential highest damage.
  So it's actually more of a 3k difference. Whether this is big difference to you or not is each to their own. I think it's significant enough.
  
  As another main melee player, I haven't touched dual wielding for almost about a year, and sold my battles away with one still rotting in my personal tab. If I don't use lance, chance is, I'll be using my HLC for my melee.