[Equipment] Let's Settle This Once and For All

• Kenero wrote on 2014-01-28 14:40
  Thanks for everyone's input.
  
  I'm recording them to make a thread in the guide section, but would love more input for the other tiers.
• Xeno wrote on 2014-01-28 15:10

  Quote from nana;1192427:

  reforge stacking stuff

  
  
  Thanks for posting this. I tested this yesterday with my accessories. One is Max Damage lv1 (+2 max attack power on stat screen), the other is Max Damage lv2 (+4 max attack power on stat screen). In the case of removing the accessory with the lv1 reforge while having the other still equipped, I still lost that additional two attack power, which tells me both reforges were taking effect. So it does seem to be "fixed", at least for certain reforges. As for if it effects things like Crash Shot damage, that would be much harder to test and I'm still not 100% convinced, so it would be fantastic if other people can add more proof. I'm thinking about starting a separate thread just for this topic actually, as I know quite a few people who are interested in this knowledge.
• Kyubey wrote on 2014-01-28 15:44

  Quote from Xeno;1192520:

  Thanks for posting this. I tested this yesterday with my accessories. One is Max Damage lv1 (+2 max attack power on stat screen), the other is Max Damage lv2 (+4 max attack power on stat screen). In the case of removing the accessory with the lv1 reforge while having the other still equipped, I still lost that additional two attack power, which tells me both reforges were taking effect. So it does seem to be "fixed", at least for certain reforges. As for if it effects things like Crash Shot damage, that would be much harder to test and I'm still not 100% convinced, so it would be fantastic if other people can add more proof. I'm thinking about starting a separate thread just for this topic actually, as I know quite a few people who are interested in this knowledge.

  
  
  max attack reforges always worked...
• Xeno wrote on 2014-01-28 16:26

  Quote from Kyubey;1192524:

  max attack reforges always worked...

  
  
  Instead of not contributing and simply pointing out something you already knew, you could do the opposite and provide useful information. Kenero said to me yesterday they did NOT stack, so I'm simply trying to further tackle this so we can get concrete data. If you have nothing to provide, don't post.
• Proxied wrote on 2014-01-28 16:31

  Quote from Xeno;1192520:

  Thanks for posting this. I tested this yesterday with my accessories. One is Max Damage lv1 (+2 max attack power on stat screen), the other is Max Damage lv2 (+4 max attack power on stat screen). In the case of removing the accessory with the lv1 reforge while having the other still equipped, I still lost that additional two attack power, which tells me both reforges were taking effect. So it does seem to be "fixed", at least for certain reforges. As for if it effects things like Crash Shot damage, that would be much harder to test and I'm still not 100% convinced, so it would be fantastic if other people can add more proof. I'm thinking about starting a separate thread just for this topic actually, as I know quite a few people who are interested in this knowledge.

  
  
  Kyubey is correct in sayingg that max attack reforges always worked. However instead of just stopping there, I am able to inform you that other reforges definitely don't stack. A couple months ago I had submitted a ticket and received compensation for reforges not being able to stack. I had a magnum shot damage max ranged attack accessory while having a max ranged attack shoe and magnum shot damage glove. After gathering data, it is true the magnums didn't stack, and by quoting my own ticket I can provide proof that the max ranged attack did not stack as well. The reason max attack works is because it compounds the stat directly to the item when you have the reforge line.
  
  
  edit: Website is offline for just me, will post ticket when I'm able to
  Edit2: cante get it working, off to class now. If you want to see it I've posted it on official nexon forums. My forum name is liminality.
• xXCronoXx wrote on 2014-01-28 16:37
  Well then this is awesome...
• Kyubey wrote on 2014-01-28 16:43

  Quote from Xeno;1192533:

  Instead of not contributing and simply pointing out something you already knew, you could do the opposite and provide useful information. Kenero said to me yesterday they did NOT stack, so I'm simply trying to further tackle this so we can get concrete data. If you have nothing to provide, don't post.

  
  
  Kenero was probably misinformed or mistaken, those reforges stack and work since day 1 as i had and lots of my guildies had back when only npc reforges existed. As for concrete evidence that's hard to get since they were always working, there was no reason to screenshot anything that was working as it should. And as you said the % reforges are the hard ones to confirm if they stack as there's no precise way to tell besides cooking exp reforges as i pointed to you yesterday (which are most likely to not stack either way). So yea chill out, i just pointed that they were working.
• Kenero wrote on 2014-01-28 16:45
  Certain reforges stack, some don't.
  
  Speed reforges won't stack with other speed source.
  
  Also, healing reforges no longer stack.
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-01-28 16:51

  Quote from Kenero;1192547:

  Certain reforges stack, some don't.
  
  Speed reforges won't stack with other speed source.
  
  Also, healing reforges no longer stack.

  
  
  I think Proxied was talking about skill-based accessory reforges that are supposed to be stack (ea. lance charge/magnum/crashshot dmg). So the accessory reforges that were supposed to be stack are not working right now in NA and this is surely a bug -- which took about 5 months for KR Mabi to fix.
  
  Now in the KR mabi these accessory reforges work as they were intended to be, but looks like we have to wait for Treasure Hunter patch to actually fix those here.
  
  
  And yes, healing/movement speed reforges don't stack, but there are a lot of skills that do stack.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-01-31 11:23
  I'll post my gear in the following quotes. I own a lot of items which are the strongest in either my server or all of North America.
  
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  The accessories are pretty lackluster; I could also make some minor changes to completely max out my equipment (ie: replacing allegro with harmony/switching glove dual reforges to a triple Magnum Shot/Crash Shot/Mana Shield 20 level roll/etc).
  
  I know a couple of other people who possess exceptional equipment items. I have a relatively limited ability to post at the moment but I will assist with this project when I am able.
• Friggerton wrote on 2014-02-07 17:41
  [SIZE="4"][FONT="Palatino Linotype"]Commerce: (I included bard skills that seem like they would be fairly useful during ambushes)
  
  Mid Tier:
  Alpaca Robe
  
  HighTier:
  Level 10-17 level speed g15 outfit
  Level <20 mana shield glove
  r5 song
  High rank lullaby/overture
  
  Master Tier:
  Level 20 g15 outfit
  Level 20 mana shield glove
  Grandmaster Bard (1 min) lullaby/overture[/FONT][/SIZE]
• Kyubey wrote on 2014-02-07 18:11

  Quote from Friggerton;1195809:

  
  Level 20 mana shield glove
  

  
  Not necessary as you can 1-2 shot master bandits with most skillsets (with the exception of bandit bosses who're easily killed with fighter)
• wilson10000 wrote on 2014-02-07 21:55
  Let me list some of the useful equipment set bonuses:
  Ranged: Magnum
  Melee: Smash/Assault or charge
  Alchemy: Flame/Water
  Magic: Firebolt/Ice bolt(Hebona) or Mana reduction
  Gunner & elf normal shot & AR/Support Shot/ Mirage: Attack speed set
  
  Since I don't use alchemy I wouldn't know how effective alchemy really is, so I won't include in the list due to lack of knowledge.
  If you're elf, I honestly think Magnum set is the best due to magnum spam or Magic set, or Attack seed set for Gunner and elf range.
  Giants obviously use melee, so Smash enhancement
  Humans are versatile, but should use Attack speed set for gunner. Or if you like to magnum spam then use Bohemian. Or mage.
  
  My own rating: Best >>>>> Worse
  (Attack speed set or Magnum set) , (Ice/FireBolt), (Smash), Mana reduction
  
  My reason for smash being not on top is because if you're human the dex reduction is too large. However as stated above giants should use smash set because -dex % doesn' matter for them. Attack speed set gunner works great for elves because it increases normal aim speed and shooting. Humans and giants also benefit from the gunner speed. Apparently it also increases aim speed for AR and support shot.
• Ierakas wrote on 2014-02-08 02:14
  Well, this /is/ fascinating.
  
  This is a theoretical question, but would a Bhafel Slayer or a fully levelled ego HLB/LLB/whatever's popular be stronger?
• SlurpTASTY wrote on 2014-02-08 02:23

  Quote from Ierakas;1195943:

  Well, this /is/ fascinating.
  
  This is a theoretical question, but would a Bhafel Slayer or a fully levelled ego HLB/LLB/whatever's popular be stronger?

  
  
  Even an r6 HLB will out-dps a maxed out ring bow ego (which is the strongest bow ego). The higher your max damage, the more the HLB will outclass the ego.