[Discussion - Game Balance] Current skills that needs tweaking?

• arochia246 wrote on 2014-02-07 02:06

  Quote from Kaeporo;1195009:

  Axe Mastery: Adds +50% critical damage at r1
  

  
  
  That would make fullswing so broken...
• mageisfun wrote on 2014-02-07 02:12
  Critical hits are already overpowered as is. 30% chance to hit insane damage.
  
  And a higher-leveled player should have 100%+ crit bare handed. I know there's the argument that, "I don't have that much crit!" Might not, but not yet.
• Perfectio wrote on 2014-02-07 03:07
  I agree, if anything crit needs to be made weaker, not stronger.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-02-07 03:55

  Quote from Tropa;1195490:

  This, we have plentiful crit as it is.

  
  
  It won't matter much to pros, but it will help a lot to newbies, since they can't really get much crit other than using daggers.
  
  Defense
  What is with that party defense with shitty range? Why is it even shitty in the first place?
• Tropa wrote on 2014-02-07 04:18

  Quote from Darkboy132;1195566:

  It won't matter much to pros, but it will help a lot to newbies, since they can't really get much crit other than using daggers.
  

  
  
  Character progression.
  
  Also, Stiff enchanted hats.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-02-07 05:10

  Quote from Darkboy132;1195566:

  It won't matter much to pros, but it will help a lot to newbies, since they can't really get much crit other than using daggers.
  

  
  
  There are plenty of enchants that give decent crit and still relevant to many characters.
  One of them is restored. Not much max, but massive crit. It's usually preferred over special or oblivion just because of that massive crit.
  Another one would be elegant. High leveled player or not, difficult enchant is realistically pretty hard to come by, so people use elegant for crit, if they don't have access to swarming.
  Newbies can also get massive crit through other weapons, like battle swords.
  
  Those two are the only two crit modifiers I use in my set currently (although I'm about to switch over to encore), I have way more than enough crit. And I don't even have fighter ranked.
  
  Critical hit is fine where it's at. If anything, it's making us hit a bit high.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-02-07 06:14
  Reduce the effectiveness of elemental reforges from 11.1% per level to 5.5% per level. Render all enemies vulnerable to elemental reforges.
  Reduce the effectiveness of pet summon skills. Summon skills consume 20~40 of the respective pet's mana per summon.
  Reduce the effectiveness of Battlefield Overture from 20% to 10% damage.
  Reduce the magic attack coefficient on all magic skills (excluding shockwave and meteor strike) by 20%.
  Every 20 Will adds +1.0% to Critical chance.
  Every 10 Luck adds +1.0% to Critical chance.
  Enemy protection reduces critical rate by 3%.
  AOE skills like Windmill no longer ignore the target's protection when calculating critical hit rate.
  Pierce reduces enemy defense by 5 and protection by 4 per level.
  Every 5 Str adds +1 to Maximum Control Bar Damage; +8 Str adds +1 to Minimum Control Bar Damage.
  Every 5 Dex adds +1 to Maximum Control Bar Damage; +8 Dex adds +1 to Minimum Control Bar Damage.
  User's Damage, Critical, and Balance added to Marionette raised to 100%.
  Climactic Crash damage reduced to 500% at r1.
  Crisis now has a 35~90% chance of successfully pulling targets, depending on rank.
  Crisis glitch patched.
  Vales Shield active defense use no longer reduces damage to nil.
  
  Armor/Weapon crafting bonuses (defense/damage) are increased by 500%.
  Sharp Ammunition can be produced through Handicraft.
• Syliara wrote on 2014-02-07 06:23

  Quote from Kaeporo;1195623:

  Reduce the effectiveness of elemental reforges from 11.1% per level to 5.5% per level. Render all enemies vulnerable to elemental reforges.
  Reduce the effectiveness of pet summon skills. Summon skills consume 20~40 of the respective pet's mana per summon.
  Reduce the effectiveness of Battlefield Overture from 20% to 10% damage.
  Reduce the magic attack coefficient on all magic skills (excluding shockwave and meteor strike) by 20%.
  Every 20 Will adds +1.0% to Critical chance.
  Every 10 Luck adds +1.0% to Critical chance.
  Enemy protection reduces critical rate by 3%.
  AOE skills like Windmill no longer ignore the target's protection when calculating critical hit rate.
  Pierce reduces enemy defense by 5 and protection by 4 per level.
  Every 5 Str adds +1 to Maximum Control Bar Damage; +8 Str adds +1 to Minimum Control Bar Damage.
  Every 5 Dex adds +1 to Maximum Control Bar Damage; +8 Dex adds +1 to Minimum Control Bar Damage.
  User's Damage, Critical, and Balance added to Marionette raised to 100%.
  Climactic Crash damage reduced to 500% at r1.
  Crisis now has a 35~90% chance of successfully pulling targets, depending on rank.
  Crisis glitch patched.
  Vales Shield active defense use no longer reduces damage to nil.
  
  Armor/Weapon crafting bonuses (defense/damage) are increased by 500%.
  Sharp Ammunition can be produced through Handicraft.

  
  
  I like all of this. This is wat we need, some actual nerfs to our characters instead of buffing things that dont need it.
• Windyxflower wrote on 2014-02-07 07:03

  Quote from Kaeporo;1195623:

  Reduce the effectiveness of elemental reforges from 11.1% per level to 5.5% per level. Render all enemies vulnerable to elemental reforges.
  Reduce the effectiveness of pet summon skills. Summon skills consume 20~40 of the respective pet's mana per summon.
  Reduce the effectiveness of Battlefield Overture from 20% to 10% damage.
  Reduce the magic attack coefficient on all magic skills (excluding shockwave and meteor strike) by 20%.
  Every 20 Will adds +1.0% to Critical chance.
  Every 10 Luck adds +1.0% to Critical chance.
  Enemy protection reduces critical rate by 3%.
  AOE skills like Windmill no longer ignore the target's protection when calculating critical hit rate.
  Pierce reduces enemy defense by 5 and protection by 4 per level.
  Every 5 Str adds +1 to Maximum Control Bar Damage; +8 Str adds +1 to Minimum Control Bar Damage.
  Every 5 Dex adds +1 to Maximum Control Bar Damage; +8 Dex adds +1 to Minimum Control Bar Damage.
  User's Damage, Critical, and Balance added to Marionette raised to 100%.
  Climactic Crash damage reduced to 500% at r1.
  Crisis now has a 35~90% chance of successfully pulling targets, depending on rank.
  Crisis glitch patched.
  Vales Shield active defense use no longer reduces damage to nil.
  
  Armor/Weapon crafting bonuses (defense/damage) are increased by 500%.
  Sharp Ammunition can be produced through Handicraft.

  
  I can't say I agree with the magic part at all. In fact I seem to disagree with a lot of these. I'm sorry but no
• Syliara wrote on 2014-02-07 07:20

  Quote from Windyxflower;1195638:

  I can't say I agree with the magic part at all. In fact I seem to disagree with a lot of these. I'm sorry but no

  
  
  All of these things makes steamrolling content alot more difficult, we dont need more buffs atm we need nerfs.
• Tropa wrote on 2014-02-07 07:22

  Quote from Nui;1195646:

  All of these things makes steamrolling content alot more difficult, we dont need more buffs atm we need nerfs.

  
  
  

  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/c/c1/Heat_Buster.png]

  
  
  Please.
• Syliara wrote on 2014-02-07 07:28

  Quote from Tropa;1195648:

  [Image: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/c/c1/Heat_Buster.png]

  
  
  Please.

  
  
  Please that skill is flashy so its ok.
• Tropa wrote on 2014-02-07 07:30

  Quote from Nui;1195652:

  Please that skill is flashy so its ok.

  
  
  But It sucks when it comes to end-game content.
  
  I would like it to have a indirect buff.
• Syliara wrote on 2014-02-07 07:43

  Quote from Tropa;1195654:

  But It sucks when it comes to end-game content.
  
  I would like it to have a indirect buff.

  
  
  I'd like some nerfs before buffs. Id like nerfs that are all at once too, not one class at a time.
• Windyxflower wrote on 2014-02-07 07:55

  Quote from Nui;1195646:

  All of these things makes steamrolling content alot more difficult, we dont need more buffs atm we need nerfs.

  Magic has been nerfed enough for a while. I'm not accepting a nerf when it took so long to get the dang thing buffed.