[Mabinogi-JP] Regeneration Update / Ninjas

• Mentosftw wrote on 2014-04-15 10:41
  I'm pretty sure it'll be grindy. Nexon wants mabinogi to continue to hold players in the only way they know how to.
• Space Pirate Nithiel wrote on 2014-04-15 11:00
  Ninja skills are best skills.
• M wrote on 2014-04-15 13:46
  If we are going to have a race debate, someone should go make another thread somewhere else. That's not what this thread is for lol
  
  

  Quote from Yoorah;1215011:

  For the curious, there's a bit more info and pictures in the Mabidata thread. A few things aren't 100% certain--it's all based on info a friend and I could gather and analyze from JP sources. :c We should get more official info pretty soon, though.
  
  

  
  oh cool, thanks for the additional info. I was just under the assumption it was 2 actual skills since we only had 2 skills shown ingame (I didnt believe anything an anime-stype picture was going to tell us). However, after viewing some of the other pics in the link I'd concede that it probably is an entire skill set.
• Slayerj wrote on 2014-04-15 19:24
  Looking at the mabi data info we currently know...
  
  Shuriken melee attacks could be str and will based while the kunai are will and dex based. The Ninja's skills such as Shadow bind, Smokescreen, and Arcane Sakura could all be int and will based.
  
  They're calling this the regeneration, so assuming this isn't region locked...maybe we'll see older skills get changed around in what stats effect them. It would be nice to see older skills and talents get some changes if this talent is indeed the way I think it might be. I mean, just from memory alone I think that blaze is the only skill from a talent that uses two different stats to calc damage. Str for the melee hit, and magic dmg for the magical hit. Everything else is done as %s or so, effected by your weapon that is effected by stats, normally 1 or 2.
  
  But at the same time, why would something that big come from JP and not KR. Just my thoughts on it.
  
  Either way, I'm just hoping for some new content to use this stuff on.
• Zekkii wrote on 2014-04-15 21:46
  I wish we didn't get such advanced notice on this. Anyone looking forward to 'ninja' has a good 1.5~2 year wait ahead of them, if we get it at all that is.
• Tropa wrote on 2014-04-15 21:58

  Quote from Zekkii;1215198:

  I wish we didn't get such advanced notice on this. Anyone looking forward to 'ninja' has a good 1.5~2 year wait ahead of them, if we get it at all that is.

  
  
  I think the only benefit of knowing ahead of time is the ability to build up stats and save AP for the new skillset.
• Slayerj wrote on 2014-04-15 22:02

  Quote from Tropa;1215203:

  I think the only benefit of knowing ahead of time is the ability to build up stats and save AP for the new skillset.

  
  
  Yep. Once we know what stats do what and maybe AP costs (in a month or so), I'll be able to decide which of my three characters to go after it with~
• Kapra wrote on 2014-04-15 22:47

  Quote from Slayerj;1215162:

  They're calling this the regeneration, so assuming this isn't region locked...maybe we'll see older skills get changed around in what stats effect them. It would be nice to see older skills and talents get some changes if this talent is indeed the way I think it might be. I mean, just from memory alone I think that blaze is the only skill from a talent that uses two different stats to calc damage. Str for the melee hit, and magic dmg for the magical hit. Everything else is done as %s or so, effected by your weapon that is effected by stats, normally 1 or 2.
  
  But at the same time, why would something that big come from JP and not KR. Just my thoughts on it.

  
  An update called Regeneration doesn't have to be a rebalance/revamp. It could also be referring to an important plot element in the Ninja quest chain.
  

  Quote from Zekkii;1215198:

  I wish we didn't get such advanced notice on this. Anyone looking forward to 'ninja' has a good 1.5~2 year wait ahead of them, if we get it at all that is.

  
  I agree that releasing information too soon without any details could be an issue, which is why we didn't immediately report what we found out a few months ago (before Kenero's post). But once enough of it is confirmed and it is established that it isn't scrapped (like the original Berserker, Chain: Counter Blow [not Counter Punch], etc), I think its good to release information early so not only NA and KR, but JP server can also prepare AP for their soon to be skillset. (Although JP won't be looking to NA for JP updates, they sometimes do for KR updates.)
• Slayerj wrote on 2014-04-15 22:54
  True. That was more or less just me over thinking it with my own personal wishes for the update. lol I do still hope the ninja class uses more than just two stats over it's somewhat mixture of skills. It seems to be, for the most part, based around debuffing groups of mobs. So that leaves me to question how strong their skills will be. Regardless, it looks fun as hell and I'm sure everyone will jump all over it when/if it finally comes out.
• Kapra wrote on 2014-04-15 22:59
  You know, a new skillset doesn't have to use multiple stats, or even existing stats. For all you know they could be adding a sixth stat and editing old skills like Smash and Lightning Bolt to give a small amount of the stat.
• Slayerj wrote on 2014-04-15 23:05

  Quote from Kapra;1215215:

  You know, a new skillset doesn't have to use multiple stats, or even existing stats. For all you know they could be adding a sixth stat and editing old skills like Smash and Lightning Bolt to give a small amount of the stat.

  
  
  That...would be interesting and honestly...welcomed imo. The entire thought of it using more than 2 stats came to me when I saw three of the attacks and wondered how that would make sense stat to dmg to skill % wise.
  
  The next two days will be long for me. lol
• Bunny wrote on 2014-04-15 23:07

  Quote from ╔╦╗╒╕║╒╕;1214951:

  I like the flashy skillsets in my opinion lol it's a game, a fantasy game with an arguably anime graphic basis at that. I wish more of the plain skillsets like melee and archery were more flashy really, but it seems nexon likes dishing out new cooler skillsets rather than improve old ones :< (which is still good and better than nothing)

  
  
  [FONT="Arial"]Maplestory, is that you?[/FONT]
• Evaris wrote on 2014-04-15 23:20
  Oh please come to the USA with new fox gear.
• Osu wrote on 2014-04-15 23:41

  Quote from Tropa;1214708:

  Not a fan of furries though.

  
  This is not furry. I don't like it either; I like this.
  

  Quote from Nui;1214832:

  I wonder if they will put rasengan or chidori into the game or something close :3

  
  This would highly amuse me.. I would very much like to cover my hand in electricity. >w<
  I mean we already spawn flames off our fists and feet, so why not? >:3
  

  Quote from ╔╦╗╒╕║╒╕;1214951:

  a fantasy game with an arguably anime graphic basis at that.

  
  And this is why I laugh in the face of those who play it and say they don't like anime. It's anime-based. How does you brain work?
  

  Quote from ╔╦╗╒╕║╒╕;1214951:

  I wish more of the plain skillsets like melee and archery were more flashy really

  
  You said it here. Crash shot did nicely, but look at when it came out.. <w< No wonder, eh?
  
  Now as for my own non-quoting reply~ as much as it'd go the way of Maple if so, I do hope this is luck based.
  Also on the slightly relevant subject of possible previous talent revamps. Does anyone else hope for say.. another skill for each set to have limited uncapped crit, like way of the gun? :3
• Zeo wrote on 2014-04-16 00:45

  Quote from Kapra;1215215:

  You know, a new skillset doesn't have to use multiple stats, or even existing stats. For all you know they could be adding a sixth stat and editing old skills like Smash and Lightning Bolt to give a small amount of the stat.

  
  
  While I still am hoping for Ninja to be Dex/Int based.
  
  My best friend said it's going to be Dex/Luck based, and I'm still waiting for the source from her.
  
  But I would be pretty happy with Dex/Luck, because it still gives elves the biggest advantage.
  
  [s](please don't kill me, mods, for still discussing things about elves)[/s]