Thoughts on Ninja Talent?

• Aisunix wrote on 2014-07-25 10:35

  Quote from JasonHero;1234918:

  Anyone happen to know how long the ninja skill training event quests will stay? The ones that gove 20 ap and skill resets? I dont really plan on training ninja right away and i wanna know if the quests will stay.

  
  
  If they are like the gunner ones (They seem to be exactly the same, just different skills), then as soon as the quest is in your quest list, it'll stay there forever and ever.
• drezzt wrote on 2014-07-25 16:03

  Quote from Aisunix;1234920:

  If they are like the gunner ones (They seem to be exactly the same, just different skills), then as soon as the quest is in your quest list, it'll stay there forever and ever.

  
  
  i still have my gunner ones LOL
• Slayerj wrote on 2014-07-25 16:20

  Quote from Aisunix;1234917:

  For the Shuriken's normal attack, it can be dodged in PvP through the luck stat. Also the dodge message is translated now. No idea about mobs though :c

  
  
  I can confirm mobs dodging my normal attack several times. The first time ever was a black spider in rundal HM normal. My 2nd attack missed it and I got smacked in the face a few times. lol
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-07-25 18:03

  Quote from Mentosftw;1234907:

  I don't think the shuriken glitch is really a glitch at all. Iyasenu pointed it out to me that it's most likely the luck stat of mobs at work which allows them to passively dodge certain projectiles like arrows and bullets.

  
  
  I seriously doubt that. Like Zekkii said, I've never missed when using Frenzy.
  
  

  Quote from Aisunix;1234917:

  For the Shuriken's normal attack, it can be dodged in PvP through the luck stat. Also the dodge message is translated now. No idea about mobs though :c

  
  
  What about evasion skill, and both for the other seven ninja skills?
  
  

  Quote from JasonHero;1234918:

  Anyone happen to know how long the ninja skill training event quests will stay? The ones that gove 20 ap and skill resets? I dont really plan on training ninja right away and i wanna know if the quests will stay.

  
  
  They're events, they'll obviously go away.
• Jake wrote on 2014-07-25 18:08
  Anyone know how accurate the JP wiki is in terms of reforges? For example it says kunai storm damage max roll is 15 (I got 15 and I'm too scared to reroll. It also seems to not do anything LOL), and that shuriken max attack gives only 1 max per level
• Invisible wrote on 2014-07-25 18:13
  I'm probably never going to use the skills again once I finish ranking them. Shuriken normal attacks seem useful for clearing daily dungeon though.
• Kapra wrote on 2014-07-25 21:54

  Quote from Darkboy132;1235020:

  They're events, they'll obviously go away.

  
  Untrue. The quests aren't the event. The event is being able to get the quest. Like how the dye well event was being able to get the well. The actual quests and wells should be with you forever, some of my alts still have the Dual Gun Event quests.
• Kenero wrote on 2014-07-28 13:06
  I find the skillsets fun in how it can not aggro or drops aggro very easily, even in the midst of battle with a decent cooldown.
  
  Definitely will use it in situations where dropping aggro, or binding enemies will be great.
  
  Shadow Bind in general is wonderful.
  
  Though I wish we could do Last Breath after the whirlwind.
• qaccy wrote on 2014-07-28 14:42

  Quote from Zekkii;1234908:

  Mobs don't have a dodge rate though, and I have never missed a gunner shot.

  
  
  Gonna come in here to say that I've missed on several occasions with normal gun attacks. I'll add in that I've missed with gun skills as well, but people are just going to argue that it's from displacement lag so that won't be seen as relevant.
  
  Bug or not, the end result does appear to be that mobs can dodge ranged attacks.
  
  EDIT: As for the topic, I'm not a fan of Ninja really. Some of the skills may have defensive/utility purposes, but for offense you're better off ranking the skills for the stats to bulk up your melee/fighter/puppet/gun stuff.
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-07-28 15:35
  Ninja talent is pretty much a stat grind for me.
  
  Every skills' damage/utility can be surpassed by many others (Lullaby, blaze, magnum shot, etc)
  
  So yeah, not even gonna bother special upgrading a shuriken.
• Lingshen wrote on 2014-07-28 18:41
  Skillset is much more fun than anything I've used yet, I'm working on mastering Shadow Bind and I'm sure this is going to be a regular combat style for me along with my Gunner setup. Almost have an S5 Hagi and Anju Shuriken. Probably should have enchanted them first but oh well.
• qaccy wrote on 2014-07-28 20:17

  Quote from Lingshen;1235629:

  Skillset is much more fun than anything I've used yet, I'm working on mastering Shadow Bind and I'm sure this is going to be a regular combat style for me along with my Gunner setup. Almost have an S5 Hagi and Anju Shuriken. Probably should have enchanted them first but oh well.

  
  
  Why enchant? Technically it doesn't matter to most people, but if you want to try for step 6 it's best to attempt on a weapon that isn't greatly enchanted nor reforged...
  
  [S]You probably think Ninja is fun just because it's new[/S]
• Lingshen wrote on 2014-07-28 20:33
  Well I don't usually go up to S6 or R6. Nor do I really rely on reforges.
  
  I think Ninja's interesting to use, it has quite a few applications to go with my main combat style Gunner. Hence why I like it so much. It combos well with my main combat style. It being new has nothing to do with it.
• Twin wrote on 2014-07-28 21:43
  Ninja is everything I expected it to be, that's all. lol
• Milk wrote on 2014-07-28 21:52
  Love it so far love how it sorta expands melee. Hate how wm does bear handed damage with it. But I also love how you can shuriken charge during the animations of other melee skills and cancle em early.
  
  I love the skill set the only things I dislike is that Smokescreen debuff doesnt last long enough for me and that Kuni Storms area of effect isnt that big either. Maybe Ill try to grab a reforge for that.