[Mabinogi-KR] Renovation: Close Combat Updates (Consolidated and Organized)

• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-28 19:27

  Quote from archangelzs;1263323:

  One quick question, when the new skills are released, does it decrease the talent exp and thereby removing master rank and if I have grandmaster, do I have to retake it?

  
  
  New skills just add more ways to give talent exp. They've never decreased talent exp of existing skills.
  
  

  Quote from Kingofrunes:

  I've mentioned it several times in live streams, in my videos, answer is yes. I'm not going to answer it again.

  
  
  Sorry but I wasn't there in the live stream.
  
  

  Quote from Daniel1235;1263201:

  Thank you!! ^^
  
  Actually, I do have 1 other question...
  Are enemies get the same final hit buff as players or it's the usual drill (only players and role-playing characters affected)?

  
  
  This was asked in another thread a few days back. Though an answer was not yet given, I'm doubtful given that Genesis did nothing for monsters, pets, partners, and NPCs and they can't smash debuff.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-01-29 00:33
  Tool's done. My first rank by rank comparison of Smash:
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/far9j/fc532dede5.png]

  
  
  Here's Rank by rank for final hit:
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/fatup/e804446a63.png]

  
  
  I do notice that devcat also started using another variable in final hit that's 80 for all ranks. I don't know what it's purpose is.
  
  Feeling lazy so I'll compile the rank by rank changes for Charge, Assault Slash, Light Armor Mastery, and Heavy Armor Mastery later...
  
  I'll add that all this to the OP.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-29 03:17

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1263389:

  Tool's done. My first rank by rank comparison of Smash:
  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/far9j/fc532dede5.png]

  
  
  Rank 8, is that supposed to be 11% or 12% bleed damage? It just seems out of pattern.
  
  Otherwise, well done compiling these data ranks. :thumb:
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-01-29 03:22

  Quote from Darkboy132;1263404:

  Rank 8, is that supposed to be 11% or 12% bleed damage? It just seems out of pattern.
  
  Otherwise, well done compiling these data ranks. :thumb:

  
  
  12% picture in OP is up to date. I just typod in that spreadsheet and accidently put in 112 and the column cut off the 2. Extra 1 in there.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-29 03:29

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1263389:

  Feeling lazy so I'll compile the rank by rank changes for Light Armor Mastery, and Heavy Armor Mastery later...

  
  
  The armor mastery defense and magic defense values were just doubled, so...
  
  

  [Image: http://oi61.tinypic.com/34euxl1.jpg]

  
  
  ... Unless they decided to change other parts and give Magic Defense at lower ranks.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-01-29 03:37

  Quote from Darkboy132;1263408:

  The armor mastery defense and magic defense values were just doubled, so...
  
  

  [Image: http://oi61.tinypic.com/34euxl1.jpg]

  
  
  ... Unless they decided to change other parts and give Magic Defense at lower ranks.

  
  
  Close...
  
  Heavy Armor Mastery
  rN -> 2 Defense
  
  Well that saves me some laziness. I guess that just means I'll have to compile Charge and Assault Slash. From a quick peek we're looking at 200 - 500 splash radius with 50% - 70% splash damage
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-29 03:43

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1263409:

  Close...
  
  Heavy Armor Mastery
  rN -> 2 Defense

  
  
  :fail3: God dammit...
  
  

  [Image: http://oi60.tinypic.com/21e6cxs.jpg]

  
  
  

  Well that saves me some laziness. I guess that just means I'll have to compile Charge and Assault Slash. From a quick peek we're looking at 200 - 500 splash radius with 50% - 70% splash damage

  
  
  You're welcome. :ran_nao:
  
  Also don't forget Stomp.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-31 05:58
  Was Summon Golem's Stomp affected by the change?
• DefinitelyNotTwin wrote on 2015-01-31 14:34
  Is there anymore information about close combat coming out,or is Nexon just done?
• Kapra wrote on 2015-01-31 22:07

  Quote from DefinitelyNotTwin;1263589:

  Is there anymore information about close combat coming out,or is Nexon just done?

  
  Close Combat and Magic are done.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-31 22:20

  Quote from DefinitelyNotTwin;1263589:

  Is there anymore information about close combat coming out,or is Nexon just done?

  
  
  http://mabination.com/threads/83595-Post-Melee-Renovation-Interview-Translated
  
  They acknowledged that Rapiers, Scythes, Elves and Giants were severely neglected as a result of Melee Renovation. They said they're planning to do more in a separate update.
• DefinitelyNotTwin wrote on 2015-01-31 23:08

  Quote from Darkboy132;1263636:

  http://mabination.com/threads/83595-Post-Melee-Renovation-Interview-Translated
  
  They acknowledged that Rapiers, Scythes, Elves and Giants were severely neglected as a result of Melee Renovation. They said they're planning to do more in a separate update.

  
  
  Yay glowing blue Rapiers and im guessing counter punch like parry o3o
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-02-08 21:26
  
  
  • Does Rage Impact's debuff last for its entire duration or just one hit like Support Shot?
    
  • If it's the latter, would a non-melee attack use up Rage Impact?
    
• Rocknetto wrote on 2015-02-09 00:13
  Question!
  
  Sorry if this has already been answered but what are the repair costs for the new Celtic weapons?
  Specifically the new swords?
  
  Thanks in advance
• ReFuSeR wrote on 2015-02-10 03:19
  [video=youtube;Mpe1Qq6Tv-0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpe1Qq6Tv-0[/video]
  
  Not sure if this was already posted but... FH too strong or what? My God. Putting ele 3 on my flame sword most definitely.