[Mabinogi KR Test] Renovation Update - Magic // 15th of January, 2015

• SirRyu wrote on 2015-01-23 15:33

  Quote from Kaeporo;1262644:

  
  
  [video=youtubeold;tLhPgk2DS7o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLhPgk2DS7o[/video]
  
  This fucking guy is doing it right.
  
  If this isn't how you fight in Mabinogi, you're missing out.

  
  
  Welp, that's pretty much how I figured the skill would synergy with Merlin knuckles, definitely not disappointed and look forward to the day I'll get my hands on it.
• JoeyDee9 wrote on 2015-01-23 15:46
  New damage coef seems to be 12 from my testing. That 60k crit only had like 538 magic attack, I can get more than that.
  
  Give me a few minutes, I'm going to see just how how act 7 can hit cause I don't think 30k x3 is possible.
  
  Edit : With 1500 str + dex, r6 lvl 20 act 7 bars, bone chip, 150% overture, You'll hit 33k with act 7 on a zero protection monster.
  
  So this isn't 30k three times in elite, without piercing you're looking at something much closer to 20-25k. The third hit isn't exactly feasible either. So in a sense it's very comparable to act 7 (a skill that I think needs nerfed) except it has a 2 second execution time and 15 second cool down. It does have less AOE though. Either way both skills are a bit over powered.
• willcaster wrote on 2015-01-23 16:52

  Quote from JoeyDee9;1262664:

  New damage coef seems to be 12 from my testing. That 60k crit only had like 538 magic attack, I can get more than that.
  
  Give me a few minutes, I'm going to see just how how act 7 can hit cause I don't think 30k x3 is possible.
  
  Edit : With 1500 str + dex, r6 lvl 20 act 7 bars, bone chip, 150% overture, You'll hit 33k with act 7 on a zero protection monster.
  
  So this isn't 30k three times in elite, without piercing you're looking at something much closer to 20-25k. The third hit isn't exactly feasible either. So in a sense it's very comparable to act 7 (a skill that I think needs nerfed) except it has a 2 second execution time and 15 second cool down. It does have less AOE though. Either way both skills are a bit over powered.

  
  
  Sir you are the OP here with those stats and those reforges. Go home if you think everything is under power or over power.
• KINGZZ wrote on 2015-01-23 17:41

  Quote from Aubog007;1262627:

  Don't use the "at least we are getting update" logic. That will lead you no where

  
  We get no where from being negative all the dang time either. Criticizing is fine when it's a good amount but i see wayyy to much
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-23 17:49

  Quote from Kaeporo;1262647:

  Out of everything, I feel like Snap Cast are sort of the underdogs of the update.

  
  
  I find it odd that Meteor Strike isn't Snap Castable still, given that it's load time is identical to Hail Storm's which is SCable.
  
  Speaking of load time, is the 30% casting time reduction from Int still necessary? Intermediate magic casting speed if pretty much on bolt level now.
  
  

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1262658:

  (charge time is 2 seconds at r1, possibly less with charging time reduction [Need to Test])

  
  
  Is Blaze even affected by casting time reduction?
• KINGZZ wrote on 2015-01-23 17:51

  Quote from Kaeporo;1262647:

  
  
  Anyway. There are a couple of issues with the update but they definitely knocked some things out of the park, as shown in that video. The advanced spells seem to have gotten the most love, which isn't a bad thing. Non-snap cast Fireball and Thunder are more feasible in standard combat scenarios.
  
  Out of everything, I feel like Snap Cast and Ice Spear are sort of the underdogs of the update. Nobody has really talked about the former's massive cooldown reduction while it seems a bit strange that Ice Spear hasn't gotten much press despite long standing complaints about the frozen status.

  
  
  Isn't that a good thing now though? You can attack enemies when they are frozen with ice spear with a 50% damage reduction i think thats awesome why does that not get more press?!
• Elleanior wrote on 2015-01-23 18:26

  Quote from KINGZZ;1262672:

  Isn't that a good thing now though? You can attack enemies when they are frozen with ice spear with a 50% damage reduction i think thats awesome why does that not get more press?!

  
  
  You know how things go. As soon as people finally get what they want, they realise the downsides of their wish. The damage reduction is only a minor downside; the major one being that it may be able to screw up the direction of combos.
• KINGZZ wrote on 2015-01-23 18:34

  Quote from Elleanior;1262676:

  You know how things go. As soon as people finally get what they want, they realise the downsides of their wish. The damage reduction is only a minor downside; the major one being that it may be able to screw up the direction of combos.

  
  Hmm you got a point there Elle it could even with the update to ice spear i still dislike it and don't wish to see it much in parties because can still screw up combos XD but away from my personal beef with ice spear im counting the changes to it as more positive then negative (can easily disagree with me here kr testers!)
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-01-23 18:45

  Quote from KINGZZ;1262677:

  Hmm you got a point there Elle it could even with the update to ice spear i still dislike it and don't wish to see it much in parties because can still screw up combos XD but away from my personal beef with ice spear im counting the changes to it as more positive then negative (can easily disagree with me here kr testers!)

  
  
  I'd say it's more positive than negative. Most of the KR Test Crew is in agreement of that sentiment. It'll be interesting to see what they do with archery.
• Robinhood wrote on 2015-01-24 02:18
  I'm guessing no new update today?
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-01-24 02:30

  Quote from Robinhood;1262727:

  I'm guessing no new update today?

  
  
  Nope, they just had a patch a couple days ago. Pretty sure they are done with magic like they were done with close combat. I wouldn't expect another update until next wednesday at the earliest, and Feb 2nd at the latest.
• Poptart wrote on 2015-01-24 03:15
  Wait, you can hit things when they're Ice Spear'd now? ... And people are COMPLAINING?
  
  Whatiswrongwiththosepeoplethatalonemakesthisanawesomeupdate.
  
  Although I would like to be able to use Party Healing with -any- staff, or at least more than one kind... oh well, can't have everything.
• willcaster wrote on 2015-01-24 03:26

  Quote from Poptart;1262739:

  Wait, you can hit things when they're Ice Spear'd now? ... And people are COMPLAINING?
  
  Whatiswrongwiththosepeoplethatalonemakesthisanawesomeupdate.
  
  Although I would like to be able to use Party Healing with -any- staff, or at least more than one kind... oh well, can't have everything.

  
  
  Centic Guardian Staff
  
  A staff that is known to hold Goddess' Grace. You can not only you can attack enemies with powerful magic, but you can use Party Healing to protect your friends.
  You can use all magic from 3 elements and you do not need to charge elements in order to use Intermediate Magic.
  When holding on to the staff, the body and Mana unites as one, which allows one to perform Meditation while running.
• Kapra wrote on 2015-01-24 03:37

  Quote from Kaeporo;1262647:

  Out of everything, I feel like Snap Cast and Ice Spear are sort of the underdogs of the update. Nobody has really talked about the former's massive cooldown reduction while it seems a bit strange that Ice Spear hasn't gotten much press despite long standing complaints about the frozen status.

  
  You have a point. Ice Spear deserves more attention than it's getting. But even then, I don't give an f. What moreso interests me is that monsters can now attack ice speared players. That will not make any existing monster with ice spear overpowered (they'll still be pushovers), [S]but what if they add new content with monsters that ice spear you and are smart enough to use fireball or thunder on you right after. And what if they add a cleric skill that heals statuses like being frozen by ice spear. Oh wait no that requires them to add content. . .[/S]
• Zeo wrote on 2015-01-24 06:25

  Quote from Kaeporo;1262644:

  [SPOILER="snip"]Edit(1):
  
  [video=youtubeold;tLhPgk2DS7o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLhPgk2DS7o[/video]
  
  This fucking guy is doing it right.
  
  If this isn't how you fight in Mabinogi, you're missing out[/SPOILER]

  
  
  Actually, yes. I have been doing this all the times, actually.
  
  And I actually have more positive overview with the magic renovation update as well than negative overview. The buff they gave to Hail, Snap Cast, Ice Bolt, and few more is a plus. I also loved the fact they reduced the cooldown for Meteor strike down to 15 minutes, making it have some more uses but I still felt like there's something missing for Meteor, which I'd change to 10 minutes cooldown, but 15 minutes is still better than 30 minutes. Plus... advanced lightning skill? About time we get that!
  
  Most of my negative overview is mostly viewed on Mana Recover and how they basically left mana shield and meditation to collect dust, plus nothing is being done about spellwalk as well.
  
  Like JoeyDee said... if I had to give it a grade... it'd be either C or C+