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Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-22 08:14
I'd like to see how the new director responds to the next Q&A when people ask why Meditation and Mana Shield were left capped. >.>
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Sledeau wrote on 2015-01-23 06:46
Why do the caps on those skills need to be raised? They seem fine as they are.
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DefinitelyNotTwin wrote on 2015-01-23 07:44
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Why do the caps on those skills need to be raised? They seem fine as they are.
During a renovation , I see no point in caps. Could just rebalance skills so people can R1 them.
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Kapra wrote on 2015-01-23 10:08
Removing caps for the sake of not having caps is poor judgement.
Removing caps before it's necessary is bad balancing.
Uncapping Meditation and Mana Shield will solve nothing. Existing ranks is what needs to be changed. Look at their handicaps, don't power creep.
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Zeo wrote on 2015-01-23 10:37
To be honest, having skills that cap at certain rank in first place was extremely stupid and I think they should uncap ALL skills to rank 1 for the sake of not being capped anymore would help make the game more clean.
They can change/balance the way the skill work to avoid power creep too.
Like few users plus I said... I don't get why they should just slap the new skill into game that almost completely negate the usefulness of some of the older skills, leaving some of the older skills like Meditation, Mana Shield, Evasion, First Aid, and more to collect the dust.
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Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-23 18:08
They've been capped for YEARS. Some of them received very small uncaps, but Mana Shield has ALWAYS been at Rank 6 since it came out. All other skills don't have this "capped" shit.
Milletians have infinite growth right? Then why is there this limitation? Why are there NPCs who are and will always be better than us? This isn't Vindictus, this isn't a game with a finite growth pattern.
Uncapping them will strip away that limitation and also make us stronger. I'll admit one of the good things the Chapter 4/5 director did was uncap Musical Knowledge and Composing to 1, that Intelligence locked away really helped.
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KINGZZ wrote on 2015-01-23 18:20
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They've been capped for YEARS. Some of them received very small uncaps, but Mana Shield has ALWAYS been at Rank 6 since it came out. All other skills don't have this "capped" shit.
Milletians have infinite growth right? Then why is there this limitation? Why are there NPCs who are and will always be better than us? This isn't Vindictus, this isn't a game with a finite growth pattern.
Uncapping them will strip away that limitation and also make us stronger. I'll admit one of the good things the Chapter 4/5 director did was uncap Musical Knowledge and Composing to 1, that Intelligence locked away really helped.
I agree with you dark personally i believe they should just uncap all caped skills... I don't understand why they were caped in the first place. still hoping for current director to uncap least one skill.
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Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-01-23 18:46
I'm in agreement more with Kapra as uncapping skills for the sake of uncapping them is stupid. Instead what they should do is when a skill is capped pull a vindictus and label it as Max. Not every skill in Vindictus goes to r1. Why should that be the case for Mabinogi?
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Aubog007 wrote on 2015-01-23 20:29
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I'm in agreement more with Kapra as uncapping skills for the sake of uncapping them is stupid. Instead what they should do is when a skill is capped pull a vindictus and label it as Max. Not every skill in Vindictus goes to r1. Why should that be the case for Mabinogi?
Comparing Vindi to Mabi is a terrible thing.
Remember when all skills were capped at rank 6? Terrible terrible thing.
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Osayidan wrote on 2015-01-23 20:37
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Remember when all skills were capped at rank 6? Terrible terrible thing.
That was a very lame point in time.
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Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-23 20:50
Quote from Aubog007;1262685:
Remember when all skills were capped at rank 6? Terrible terrible thing.
I knew Alchemy was left capped at Rank 6 when it came out then those were lifted in G11. When were early forms of Life, Combat, and Magic were capped and uncapped?
... Oh yeah, Magic Mastery was capped at 6 and lifted in G11...
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Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-01-23 21:06
Quote from Aubog007;1262685:
Comparing Vindi to Mabi is a terrible thing.
Remember when all skills were capped at rank 6? Terrible terrible thing.
I'll compare things to anything I want if it's to counter people's continual negativity. Not that it matters to me, soon everyone who has nothing positive to say will be added to my ignore list. Already added a couple and might I say, I'm much happier not having to read their negative attitude :whistle:
Having a negative opinion is fine, but if you aren't going to highlight any of the positives and talk about the ups of an update than I have no business with you.
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Osayidan wrote on 2015-01-23 21:34
Quote from Darkboy132;1262689:
I knew Alchemy was left capped at Rank 6 when it came out then those were lifted in G11. When were early forms of Life, Combat, and Magic were capped and uncapped?
... Oh yeah, Magic Mastery was capped at 6 and lifted in G11...
In the very early days. Before G1 and maybe during G1 as well. Pretty much every skill was limited to r6.
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Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-23 21:39
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I'll compare things to anything I want if it's to counter people's continual negativity. Not that it matters to me, soon everyone who has nothing positive to say will be added to my ignore list. Already added a couple and might I say, I'm much happier not having to read their negative opinion :whistle:
Having a negative opinion is fine, but if you aren't going to highlight any of the positives and talk about the ups of an update than I have no business with you.
I want to apologize for my negative view over the past few days. My main anger with Mana Recovery stems from that it was put in favor over Meditation, which has been with us since the beginning of time; it's now to the point where it's one of those useless-level skills like Respite.
Magic was indeed buffed greatly, perhaps TOO greatly. An advanced Lightning magic spell was desired for a very long time and now it fulfills its role. Magic shields now have some more use, and overall magic is made faster, remedying the old drawback of its "slow but powerful" concept.
However, complaints will always be inevitable. Here and there fighting will always occur. As much as I want world peace, that will sadly never happen. So again, I'm sorry for all that occurred over the past few days.
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DefinitelyNotTwin wrote on 2015-01-23 21:43
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Removing caps for the sake of not having caps is poor judgement.
Removing caps before it's necessary is bad balancing.
Uncapping Meditation and Mana Shield will solve nothing. Existing ranks is what needs to be changed. Look at their handicaps, don't power creep.
Wait,think I remember you. Aren't you the same guy who said..umm.. you rather Spirit Weapons have their exp lowered instead of being buffed or have them removed entirely?
Answer this then pls. Back in the day for mabi, I''m pretty sure every skill was capped at R6.Do you think that was poor judgement by Nexon?