Let's look at Mabinogi's "map efficiency".

• Kapra wrote on 2015-04-05 07:00

  Quote from Rixx;1270075:

  It'd be awesome if we could have all that space...

  
  We also need non-boring things to fill it with.
• Rixx wrote on 2015-04-05 07:47

  Quote from Kapra;1270076:

  We also need non-boring things to fill it with.

  
  
  Adding your own NPCs would be awesome...
  
  Make your own town... Whoa...
  -drools-
• Kapra wrote on 2015-04-05 08:07

  Quote from Rixx;1270077:

  Adding your own NPCs would be awesome...
  
  Make your own town... Whoa...
  -drools-

  
  Also things we could actually do in there. Towards the end of G16 there was a new skill, called Perfume Making, in Test Server in KR. You would get seeds for these new types of herbs, plant them in your homestead farm piles (like strawberries/pumpkins/etc but don't use homestead stones and don't give kons), and at the end it would reward you with a new herb like Lavender. Rumor has it was more similar to Taillteann farming with the actions. You then used them for the Perfume Making crafting skills to make consumable buffs (and everyone hates consumable buffs). Not quite that, but there needs to be things like that to give homesteads more use. I'd also consider a feature that encourages visiting other people's homesteads. I'm going on a tangent, feel free to explore this topic on the new ideas thread.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-05 08:24

  Quote from Rixx;1270077:

  Adding your own NPCs would be awesome...
  
  -drools-

  
  
  Or...

  [Image: http://mabination.com/images/pointmarket/gifts/naoboobies.png]

  
  
  :blood:
• Elleanior wrote on 2015-04-06 13:58

  Quote from Darkboy132;1270079:

  Or...

  [Image: http://mabination.com/images/pointmarket/gifts/naoboobies.png]

  
  
  :blood:

  
  
  Billboards of Nao's bazongas? Unfortunately, your ideas are not as well-rounded as her whompers are.
  I'd fill the space with something far more useful: MORE POT FARMS!!
  :llama_nomnom:
• Zekkii wrote on 2015-04-06 18:29

  Quote from Elleanior;1270245:

  Billboards of Nao's bazongas? Unfortunately, your ideas are not as well-rounded as her whompers are.
  I'd fill the space with something far more useful: MORE POT FARMS!!
  :llama_nomnom:

  
  One day....
  

  [Image: http://media.web.britannica.com/eb-media/84/73384-004-8D0F9CAE.jpg]

  
  
  ...I wonder how much NX it'll cost.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-06 18:52

  Quote from Elleanior;1270245:

  Billboards of Nao's bazongas? Unfortunately, your ideas are not as well-rounded as her whompers are.
  I'd fill the space with something far more useful: MORE POT FARMS!!
  :llama_nomnom:

  
  
  I'd rather have eyecandy than something to get drunk on. :awesome:
• Snowie Stormflower wrote on 2015-04-06 18:53
  I'm a little late, but how does Falias hold up in all of this? That place tends to be extremely laggy for some people.
• Rydian wrote on 2015-04-07 00:19
  I get to rebirth, so I checked out the soul stream.
  
  Nao uses her own framework instead of the standard female one, probably 'cause of her rack needing extra controls. There's two nao_stage_owls_gather framework objects loaded in diagonally from eachother up in the air.
  
  Nothing else interesting except that the design on the floor is actually modeled into the floor itself, it's not a texture.
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/YSdg3Dqm.png]

  
  
  

  Quote from Snowie Stormflower;1270260:

  I'm a little late, but how does Falias hold up in all of this? That place tends to be extremely laggy for some people.

  I'd tell you if I could ever get hold of a fragment.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-07 00:32

  Quote from Rydian;1270285:

  I get to rebirth

  
  
  But you didn't check the Forest of Souls?
• Kapra wrote on 2015-04-07 00:44

  Quote from Rydian;1270285:

  Nothing else interesting except that the design on the floor is actually modeled into the floor itself, it's not a texture.
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/YSdg3Dqm.png]

  
  Oh that's really cool actually. I'd ask about the other soul stream stage too but I'm not sure if there's any easy way to get there.
  
  

  Quote from Darkboy132;1270286:

  But you didn't check the Forest of Souls?

  
  Isn't that only available with Hero rebirths?
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-07 00:47

  Quote from Kapra;1270287:

  I'd ask about the other soul stream stage too but I'm not sure if there's any easy way to get there.

  
  
  Royal Alchemist.
  
  

  Isn't that only available with Hero rebirths?

  
  
  I dunno? Don't you just rebirth and select Tir as the rebirth spot? I don't do it anymore.
• thunderbro wrote on 2015-04-07 01:02
  You can select that map now upon re-birthing now.
• Rydian wrote on 2015-04-07 01:15
  Oh yeah, forgot you can use that to get to there now.
  Unfortunately my other chars are elf/giant so I only get their rebirth locations, but it's better than nothing.
  
  
  Elf rebirth area seems normal at first...
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/PGKgnGdm.jpg]

  
  
  Except that only the top half loads dynamically.
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/zdhxptmm.jpg]

  
  
  And indeed, while the top half is normal terrain, the bottom half is synthetic/constructed terrain for some godforsaken reason.
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/tXEQ2qrm.jpg]

  
  
  
  Same deal with the giants.
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/qqbZjVFm.jpg]

  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/ULDhrUZm.jpg]

  
  
  The only reason I could see them doing this is if they're unable to resize maps after creation (which would explain Another World not being chopped down), and didn't feel like re-sculpting the terrain they already did so far when they decided to expand the elf and giant rebirth areas.
• Kapra wrote on 2015-04-07 08:53
  This may suggest that Land Maker was added sometime after G6S1 (Connous was added in G5 and Physis was added in G6).