Thoughts on Renovation?

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alwmiioktm wrote on 2015-04-23 05:17

Quote from Darkboy132;1272012:
No it didn't.

[video=youtube;-nvMlu2N80U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nvMlu2N80U[/video]

This is before they decided to give it 400% damage.

No it's not, this is a glitch.
[video=youtube;I927TkQYwBo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I927TkQYwBo[/video]
ita wrote on 2015-04-23 05:27

Quote from Oberynn;1272007:
It probably averages to slow.
For final hit you want either normal speed + attack speed effect or fast speed if you have no attack speed effect.

Attack speed doesn't work on fast speed, so normal + attack is actually more hits.

Beams and royal sword for non-att speed people and demonics for att speed people.

Also in case I haven't said it enough BASH IS SO GOOD.

Wait, so if I use an attack speed set I shouldn't use celtics?
Zekkii wrote on 2015-04-23 05:29

I don't think they're doing enough to renovate the game. All they did was add one zero.
Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-23 05:39

Quote from alwmiioktm;1272014:
No it's not, this is a glitch.
[video=youtube;I927TkQYwBo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I927TkQYwBo[/video]

?_? What...

... Oh, I didn't see it had an annotation that said fake.
spirit2roam wrote on 2015-04-23 06:46

I guess it's nice to know I can use my War Swords for a little more than just for fun lol.

Probably not going to take dual wielding seriously as I invested too much into my Lance, Guns, and currently my Bow. If I can get celtic swords just from messing around eventually then that wouldn't be bad.
Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-23 06:54

Did anyone notice that Rage Impact's quest has a huge plot hole? Aranwen's story happened a "very long time ago"; Iria wasn't even discovered until Milletians came, so humans couldn't even populate there. Simultaneously, there couldn't have been Giants off Iria's continent until then.
Kapra wrote on 2015-04-23 07:43

Quote from Darkboy132;1272024:
Did anyone notice that Rage Impact's quest has a huge plot hole? Aranwen's story happened a "very long time ago"; Iria wasn't even discovered until Milletians came, so humans couldn't even populate there. Simultaneously, there couldn't have been Giants off Iria's continent until then.

Incorrect, go do the Morva Aisle sidequest (or what's left of it).

First off, I don't get where you get the idea that Iria wasn't discovered before Milletians were here. Plot wise, Iria should be several Tuatha generations known before we got involved. Humans from Uladh went to Iria and got artifacts and spices and sold them to Uladh populace, not letting them know the other world existed. (Sort of like what happened during early years of the silk road and the west, from what I hear.)

We don't know if there were giants off Iria or not.

The real plot hole is Andras, although we don't know how old Andras really is. The Morva Aisle sidequest came first, so several generations took precendent over Andras's lifespan, assuming Andras's lifespan was the same as them, meaning G9 (G9S2?) is where the plothole is.

Then again, that might not be a plot hole, because the Humans thought Elves were Fomor. It's possible the humans were just being delusional as always.
Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-23 08:26
Quote from Kapra;1272029:
Incorrect, go do the Morva Aisle sidequest (or what's left of it).

First off, I don't get where you get the idea that Iria wasn't discovered before Milletians were here. Plot wise, Iria should be several Tuatha generations known before we got involved. Humans from Uladh went to Iria and got artifacts and spices and sold them to Uladh populace, not letting them know the other world existed. (Sort of like what happened during early years of the silk road and the west, from what I hear.)

Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that.

HOWEVER, it's still a plot hole because it's Aranwen's ancestor. It would make sense if it was Aranwen herself and happened when Iria was revealed to the populace, so it begs the questions:
- How did her ancestor discover Iria if it was kept a secret from many?
- How did her ancestor get all buddy-buddy with a Giant, outside of Iria?
Kapra wrote on 2015-04-23 08:32
Quote from Darkboy132;1272033:
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that.

HOWEVER, it's still a plot hole because it's Aranwen's ancestor. It would make sense if it was Aranwen herself and happened when Iria was revealed to the populace, so it begs the questions:
- How did her ancestor discover Iria if it was kept a secret from many?
- How did her ancestor get all buddy-buddy with a Giant, outside of Iria?
That's not really a plot hole. Plot holes make no sense when thought of in respect to another part of the plot. (Like how in Ocarina of Time, Link learns the song of storms from the windmill man in the future, and in the past, the windmill man learns the song of storms from Link.) But there are ways that can be explained, we don't know if Aranwen's ancestor wasn't also a merchant, or if she was on the protecting the merchants or cargo. The giant might've been on Iria and she could've returned to Iria after a journey.

Keep in mind Pirate Activity in Belvast has been going on for at least sixty years (according to Ascon's Story), who would protect the Merchants from the pirate cargo raids? (Like that happened in one of the gens I think?) Assuming not all of the Merchants weren't pirates themselves. Heck, most vikings were actually merchants rather than raiders.
Aubog007 wrote on 2015-04-23 08:40

Quote from Kapra;1272034:
That's not really a plot hole. Plot holes make no sense when thought of in respect to another part of the plot. (Like how in Ocarina of Time, Link learns the song of storms from the windmill man in the future, and in the past, the windmill man learns the song of storms from link)

Sir, this is what we call a Stable Time Loop.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StableTimeLoop

Yes LoZ is there
Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-23 08:42

Quote from Kapra;1272034:
The giant might've been on Iria and she could've returned to Iria after a journey.

"A warrior from the provinces went to battle alongside a giant. (Stuff about being in awe after seeing Stomp). It is said after overcoming numerous obstacles, she finally reached Iria."

I hardly remember the Belvast origins. They barely talk about it in G15 and 16. Just stuff about slavery from Ascon, and Owen taking over Belvast. :/
Kapra wrote on 2015-04-23 08:57

Another thing I'd like to put out there. An ancient text about Glas says Glas can be artificially created through bone of a Giant or Adamantium. Implying Giants were known about in Uladh at the time. (If the book is from Uladh.)
Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-23 09:07
Quote from Kapra;1272039:
Another thing I'd like to put out there. An ancient text about Glas says Glas can be artificially created through bone of a Giant or Adamantium. Implying Giants were known about in Uladh at the time. (If the book is from Uladh.)

http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/The_Embodiment_of_Destruction,_Glas_Ghaibhleann
- "The howling of the gruesome looking giants"
- "I wonder how many people still remember the giant today? Who still remembers the name...Glas Ghaibhleann...?"
- "I hope that through this book, we will once again remember the giant who set the human world on fire and brought upon chaos and destruction, so that this will never happen again. Also, I hope people will pay close attention to the signs that could predict the giant's arrival."
- "There is a story that says several giants, larger than a house, came and destroyed and burned everything...which must've been the Glas Ghaibhleanns."
- "In order to summon the Glas Ghaibhleann, it is said one needs to collect all the bones of the ancient giant after it has deceased."
Every mention of giant seems to be referring to Glas Ghaibhleann, not the giant race. This was made in G1, unless the C1 and 2 directors collaborated in making the new races.
Zeo wrote on 2015-04-23 14:04

I haven't got the chance to try all those stuffs out, but I can say that humans basically got favored the most for this renovation and I'd expect the same for archery renovation, while Giants get bit of things while elves basically got none. (I'm not including magic renovation because it favor all three races equally even though they should have for the elves).
Esileruf wrote on 2015-04-23 16:20

Quote from Zeo;1272058:
I haven't got the chance to try all those stuffs out, but I can say that humans basically got favored the most for this renovation and I'd expect the same for archery renovation, while Giants get bit of things while elves basically got none. (I'm not including magic renovation because it favor all three races equally even though they should have for the elves).

I don't know about you but being able to solo elite TDB gate with r1 bash and barely 700 melee damage WITH 38% overture as an elf still is pretty impressive with a meh francisca. Disregarding the fact that this update is Humans OP erry day, giants get the short end of the stick, and elves are the stick the giants swing with, I'll goddamn love the hell out of charge using real damage, and running with defense on. MUCH better for surviving annoying situations, such as dragon field bosses. Not to mention rage impact is an excellent crowd control, much better at holding things down than windmill.

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