Request & Question Thread

• Rydian wrote on 2015-09-29 03:19
  No clue on the playing thing.
  
  As far as dyeing, Aura probably doesn't always replace the server copies of the item data, might have just worked via appending and so tag changes were skipped. Just an educated guess though since the server's responsible for choosing what can actually be dyed on what.
• Esileruf wrote on 2015-09-29 05:23

  Quote from Poshwosh;1287649:

  Folding Glasses used to be dyeable with fixed dye ampoules, but it unknowingly changed in a patch around 2012, it's undyeable now.
  The glasses simply don't appear on the item selection screen.
  
  Yet, on Aura, they are still selectable and dyeable.
  What's the reasoning behind this, how is this possible if it uses the same client, and the item selection screen is client-sided?

  
  
  Might be a forced change from outside the client itself. If the client fully handled what could be dyed then we'd be able to abuse that and dye what we pleased. Wood-rimmed glasses are the same, and I own a F0F0F0, one of two unique pairs i'm aware of on my server.
  It required cake to break the dye restrictions and now that the cake has been eaten by C++2010Felidae, there's nothing else.
• Roflorz wrote on 2015-09-29 08:16

  Quote from Esileruf;1287662:

  Might be a forced change from outside the client itself. If the client fully handled what could be dyed then we'd be able to abuse that and dye what we pleased. Wood-rimmed glasses are the same, and I own a F0F0F0, one of two unique pairs i'm aware of on my server.
  It required cake to break the dye restrictions and now that the cake has been eaten by C++2010Felidae, there's nothing else.

  
  
  A xml edit would have been easier.
• TheDarkPaladin wrote on 2015-09-29 16:13
  Not sure if you'd be able to find anything, but is there anything about egos or the odds of , idk, getting an arbalest from the lampposts in Cobh?
• Roflorz wrote on 2015-09-30 03:17

  Quote from TheDarkPaladin;1287686:

  Not sure if you'd be able to find anything, but is there anything about egos or the odds of , idk, getting an arbalest from the lampposts in Cobh?

  
  
  Wat aboot eg0s? b3 spesiphik.
  
  did u no: u can make weapons into egos.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2015-09-30 03:31

  Quote from bishamon;1287642:

  Thanks for answering my last question! I have another: why is it that when I use the Playing Instrument skill and I hover my cursor over, let's say, an NPC, my cursor icon changes to a pointer finger as if I'm about to use healing? What's that about?

  
  
  Maybe it has to do with the Magical Music Score (sold by Briana/Tiro) that you can use to tame monsters via Playing Instrument.
  And it's just sorta... still using that icon even when you don't have that special scroll equipped.
  Maybe.
• TheDarkPaladin wrote on 2015-09-30 04:14

  Quote from Roflorz;1287710:

  Wat aboot eg0s? b3 spesiphik.
  
  did u no: u can make weapons into egos.

  
  
  idk, any specific that isnt already known, unknown growth rates or something. ik the general knowledge about them, just curious to see if there's anything that players don't know about them
• Rydian wrote on 2015-09-30 16:18

  Quote from Esileruf;1287662:

  If the client fully handled what could be dyed then we'd be able to abuse that and dye what we pleased.

  Yeah, just because the client has it doesn't mean it's used. The client and server each have the same copies of things like the item database and all that jazz, but which parts are used by which side is almost arbitrary at times.
  
  For example editing the palettes client-side does not change the colors that clothes show up with in the shops or anything, nor does it affect the dye minigame (despite appearances the minigame gives the intended results because the server does it too and then chooses the result it got over yours).
  
  
  
  

  Quote from TheDarkPaladin;1287686:

  Not sure if you'd be able to find anything, but is there anything about egos

  Level up tables and stuff for old ones, but there's not much that's not known other than... well, stat tables for the egos nobody makes. Hell, I've got an Elven Long Bow ego on NA and I had to go fill in the repair chart on the wiki myself as I proffed/damaged 'cause everybody goers for other bows instead. But it'd be annoying to make proper tables from the data, and the wiki reverts tables I put up on there when they come from this sort of thing so I really CBA.
  
  I mean there's like, feed data and growth rates from gems, but people already figured that stuff out (one way or another) and put calculators up years ago. The stats from feeding and such actually depend on the item's ID.
  
  Also the ego creation process is tied to specific weapon IDs, so there's no normal way to make an ego out of a random specific weapon that you normally can't. Wouldn't have proper stats anyways.
  
  
  

  Quote from TheDarkPaladin;1287686:

  or the odds of , idk, getting an arbalest from the lampposts in Cobh?

  Sometimes I punch those things for nails for the daily for that NPC there. Never seen one. Going rafting twice to get an Arbalest as reward would take much less time and effort.
• TheDarkPaladin wrote on 2015-10-02 01:55

  Quote from Rydian;1287733:

  Sometimes I punch those things for nails for the daily for that NPC there. Never seen one. Going rafting twice to get an Arbalest as reward would take much less time and effort.

  
  was just curious about it, i dont rly care that much to get an arbalest, id much rather get a CRC, they have far better stats, unfortunately they take forever to get the mats for too.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2015-10-02 16:25
  Speaking of punching objects for items...
  
  I remember a looooong time ago, during that ooooold title glitch, I happened to cap my luck stat and did some testing.
  
  It seems that increasing your luck stat has a direct influence on your chance to obtain an object from smacking objects.
  So ever since then, if I ever needed stuff like nails, I always tried to increase my character's luck stat before I started whacking stuff.
  But was that just a coincidence?
  
  Or is there some actual formula for the chance to obtain something from smacking objects?
  Also wondering if Rain Casting increases object item drop rate the way normal weather seems to. (it sure feels like it, but that's just a feeling)
  Or is it even possible to get definite info on that.
  
  Also, I like the sign next to Cobh's marketplace, 'cause it seems to have a chance to drop two items per single hit.
• callback wrote on 2015-10-02 16:30

  Quote from Iyasenu;1287865:

  Speaking of punching objects for items...
  
  I remember a looooong time ago, during that ooooold title glitch, I happened to cap my luck stat and did some testing.
  
  It seems that increasing your luck stat has a direct influence on your chance to obtain an object from smacking objects.
  So ever since then, if I ever needed stuff like nails, I always tried to increase my character's luck stat before I started whacking stuff.
  But was that just a coincidence?
  
  Or is there some actual formula for the chance to obtain something from smacking objects?
  Also wondering if Rain Casting increases object item drop rate the way normal weather seems to. (it sure feels like it, but that's just a feeling)
  Or is it even possible to get definite info on that.
  
  Also, I like the sign next to Cobh's marketplace, 'cause it seems to have a chance to drop two items per single hit.

  
  
  All I can say is that for nails you want the rocks in Ceann, with a pet double-punching with you, with enduring melody so the pet doesn't run out of stamina. No idea about any stats or weather on things like arbalest of cnc round shield. Try asking that in the data mines question thread, since things like cnc at least are old enough to maybe look for.
• Rydian wrote on 2015-10-02 19:29
  We don't have source for that sort of stuff, copies of some things probably exist in the client functions but as usual I can't read that stuff.
• TheDarkPaladin wrote on 2015-10-04 09:56
  i doubt you can find t out, based on what I've read on the various threads in this part of the forum, but it'd be nice to know te drop rates fr shock pages for the mobs in scathach. If you can't find out thats fine
• Roflorz wrote on 2015-10-04 10:36

  Quote from TheDarkPaladin;1287982:

  i doubt you can find t out, based on what I've read on the various threads in this part of the forum, but it'd be nice to know te drop rates fr shock pages for the mobs in scathach. If you can't find out thats fine

  
  
  Scathach came out in g16, so no.
• TheDarkPaladin wrote on 2015-10-04 10:45
  thats what i thought, can only get things from g13 and earlier right?