Request & Question Thread

• Iyasenu wrote on 2015-10-04 11:07
  This is kind of dumb, but I've always wondered about Potion Poisoning.
  
  I mean, how is the stat loss from severe poisoning calculated?
  Or how are the different stages of poisoning calculated?
  The wiki has the list of potions and their Toxicity level, for the most part, and some approx numbers of 30pt potions on how many it takes to reach different levels of poisoning, but...
  
  What're the exact amounts of stats you lose?
  Or how is it calculated?
  Like, wiki shows HP30 having a Toxicity of 0.3 and an HP300 of having a Toxicity of 0.2, but those 300s can get you poisoned SO much faster.
  
  So is it like... based on something like potion strength multiplied by potion toxicity or... something?
  
  Also, Poisonous Mushroom stew has a weird effect of lowering your potion poisoning severity.
  Wiki says by "4 points", but... what is that 4 points. Certainly not equal to 20 HP300s.
• Rydian wrote on 2015-10-04 21:51

  Quote from TheDarkPaladin;1287984:

  thats what i thought, can only get things from g13 and earlier right?

  Well there's also lots of modern info that can be gotten from packet logs and straight-up testing and RAM search and junk, like I can see the speed bonuses of the sheep-cloud pets and junk and other results... but it seems most people are interested in percents and formula (which come before the results are given) which we can't read.
  
  
  

  Quote from Iyasenu;1287987:

  This is kind of dumb, but I've always wondered about Potion Poisoning.

  There's multiple aspects to potion poisoning, the first one just determines how deep into general potion poisoning you are, then the actual stat losses are different based on how deep into that you are. Think of the first value as a multiplier for stat loss, and it starts at 0 and doesn't rise past 0 until like stage 3 or whatever.
  
  I can't find a visible value for this in the player structure, in general I just read the on-screen messages and look at my stats to see if I'm in it deep yet.
  
  I think the toxicity of a potion might be the per-point values, which would explain the discrepancy. Drinking HP 300s (toxicity total 60?) my Int was modified as such per potion.
  -0.4011993408
  -7.53279829
  -25.66419601
  -54.68199158
  -99.52178955
  -143.9275818
  -205.1293793
  
  So the amount of stats I lost upon drinking each potion are...
  0.4011993408
  7.1315989492
  18.13139772
  29.01779557
  44.83979797
  61.2017975
  
  So accounting for the drain, the multiplier would be roughly...
  0.00668
  0.11885
  0.30218
  0.48362
  0.74732
  1.02002
  
  -----------------------------------------
  
  Testing with HP 100s (toxicity 20) results in a more gradual loss, this.
  -0.4307995439
  -2.100598812
  -5.013598442
  -9.169797897
  -14.56499672
  -21.20339584
  -26.28499413
  -33.6139946
  -42.19039536
  -52.0141983
  -63.61399841
  -76.94779968
  -92.05760193
  -108.9434052
  
  Again the stat loss per potion is...
  0.4307995439
  1.6697992681
  2.91299963
  4.156199455
  5.395198823
  6.638399123
  5.08159829 //wut
  7.32900047
  8.57640076
  9.82380294
  11.59980011
  13.33380127
  15.10980225
  16.88580327
  
  And again the multiplier looks like it increases as such.
  0.02153
  0.08348
  0.14564
  0.20780
  0.26975
  0.33191
  0.25407 //?
  0.36645
  0.42882
  0.49119
  0.57999
  0.66669
  0.75549
  0.84429
  
  So it's definitely less of a ramp up with less total toxicity, but I don't do enough math to outline what's going on here.
  
  By the way, when you go into potion poisoning, the "Toxic STR" and whatever values are decreased (made negative). It then adds these to your current stats. The values are signed though and actually stored negative, this means that if you could manage to get negative potion poisoning somehow, they'd actually be a stat increase since minus a negative is a positive.
  
  ... and since this is a double negative they never accounted for, the stat increases from a theoretical negative potion poisoning will actually ignore the stat caps, at least client-side.
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/JxtMTtI.png]
• TheDarkPaladin wrote on 2015-10-04 23:37
  lol, i wonder if anything would even be able to challenge a player if they had those kinds of stats
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-10-07 15:24
  Hey Rydian, I recall long ago you had a picture of Hillwen Mines Hitbox detection area that there was a hole in you could use to get behind the rocks? Can you send me that picture or post it here, I can't remember where it was :(
• Daakun wrote on 2015-10-07 16:46
  Apologies if it was asked already, but I searched "holy water" here and it didn't turn up, so.
  How exactly does holy water change the repair rate? Been using the "halves fail rate" rule of thumb for ages, would be neat to see if that's actually true.
• Rydian wrote on 2015-10-07 19:08
  For hitboxes, Mabi uses either event areas or actual collision boxes depending on the area. Step found the functions to patch to make the boxes show up, but as far as I know there's no way in-game to make event areas show up (though the Aura team has event viewing outside of the game in the region data). As far as I'm aware, getting into that part of the mine actually involves summoning a pet until it's partially into the wall or something and then mounting it. May also involve repeatedly logging (which rounds your coordinates).
  
  [video=youtube;stZ59AYjfmA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stZ59AYjfmA[/video]
  
  
  
  
  For repair, according to Blade, one of the functions states, in general...
  if (isBlessed) { repairRate = 100 - ((100 - repairRate) / 2); }
  
  So holy water halves the fail for a repair.
• Chihaya wrote on 2015-10-10 23:10
  Hello~ I was wondering if there are any information regarding the rarity of the Rosemary Patterns.
  
  I just know it's "extremely rare", obtainable at Avon, and that's pretty much it. I also know some people obtain it within hours while others fish continuously for months without any luck.
  I've obtained a 100% auto fishing success rate, but it would be really nice if there was a general estimate on the rarity of this pattern.
• Rynn wrote on 2015-10-10 23:13
  There's an actual % on the data mines section, I forget which thread.
• Chihaya wrote on 2015-10-10 23:15

  Quote from Rynn;1288345:

  There's an actual % on the data mines section, I forget which thread.

  
  
  I'll do some searching then, thanks for the heads-up
  
  EDIT: Should've done some searching first before I made this post. Here it is
• bob wrote on 2015-10-12 05:49
  lf>32 person squad glitch. thx
• Roflorz wrote on 2015-10-12 06:10

  Quote from bob;1288386:

  lf>32 person squad glitch. thx

  
  
  option 1: pake
  option 2: new mod
• TheDarkPaladin wrote on 2015-11-11 20:48
  theres 2 unused doors in the Rath Castle 2nd Floor, do those show any signs of having been planned for something? or are they just dead space with no indication of ever being used for something?
• Rydian wrote on 2015-11-11 21:59

  Quote from TheDarkPaladin;1289843:

  theres 2 unused doors in the Rath Castle 2nd Floor, do those show any signs of having been planned for something? or are they just dead space with no indication of ever being used for something?

  There's no indication that there's anything there, though if they wanted to add something it wouldn't be difficult since the entrances are just clickable whatevers in front of the doors.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2015-11-11 22:19
  I've been wondering, what determines when a Fomor Command Scroll will drop?
  Or from which enemy it'll drop from.
• TheDarkPaladin wrote on 2015-11-11 23:09

  Quote from Rydian;1289847:

  There's no indication that there's anything there, though if they wanted to add something it wouldn't be difficult since the entrances are just clickable whatevers in front of the doors.

  
  
  hmm, well, it'
  d be interesting if they'd add stuff there, as it is atm it kinda bothers me that those two have nothing while all the other doors lead places, then again, large parts of rath royal castle server little to no purpose atm, and im sure they could find ways to make them useful