[KR] G20: Door of Sanctuary // 20th of August, 2015

• Dragoolfire wrote on 2015-09-04 14:35
  Sorry if I didn't notice this, but does Divine Link work on partners too or just pets?
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-09-04 15:37

  Quote from Dragoolfire;1285793:

  Sorry if I didn't notice this, but does Divine Link work on partners too or just pets?

  
  Just pets.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-09-05 09:32

  Quote from Darkboy132;1285417:

  If you aggro a mob with Summon Golem or Marionette, will the pet still take aggro? Even if Taunt/Act 6 is used?

  
  
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  Quote from Esileruf;1285790:

  Bone dragon is stupid tanky and when it dies COOL FREE BONE CHIPS.

  
  
  However, does it still drop bone chips when it auto revives?
• Iyasenu wrote on 2015-09-05 10:25

  Quote from Darkboy132;1285829:

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  However, does it still drop bone chips when it auto revives?

  
  
  That's a nice question, I'm wondering about that, too.
  [SIZE="1"]despite not having a bone dragon...[/SIZE]
  
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  I'm wondering, that training trick for Divine Link, the mimic-aggro one?
  Does it reduce lag if you go to Options->Game->Chat and blacklist <SKILL>?
  
  It helps for instances like training Shield/Armor Mastery and Wind Guard one huges mobs of enemies, cuz it keeps your chat log from getting clogged up with a zillion messages a second.
  
  Or is that trick even more extreme?
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-09-05 12:45

  Quote from Iyasenu;1285832:

  That's a nice question, I'm wondering about that, too.
  [SIZE="1"]despite not having a bone dragon...[/SIZE]
  
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  I'm wondering, that training trick for Divine Link, the mimic-aggro one?
  Does it reduce lag if you go to Options->Game->Chat and blacklist <SKILL>?
  
  It helps for instances like training Shield/Armor Mastery and Wind Guard one huges mobs of enemies, cuz it keeps your chat log from getting clogged up with a zillion messages a second.
  
  Or is that trick even more extreme?

  
  
  Could help. I'll test that when I get more AP to rank divine link. As for the golem/puppet one, we'll see if I feel like answering it. Right now only answering things I know the answer to right now. Too lazy to go and test more to answer these more specific questions.
  
  Also I never got the bone dragon on KR so couldn't answer that.
• Rynn wrote on 2015-09-05 13:43

  Quote from Esileruf;1285790:

  Bone Dragon or Tuan's Spirit imo. Bone dragon is stupid tanky and when it dies COOL FREE BONE CHIPS.
  Tuan's spirit is obvious. 4x duration to buff skills is invaluable.

  
  
  Or if the most logical option isn't already fixed..........
  
  [video=youtube;0HRCmVDhRIs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=44&v=0HRCmVDhRIs[/video]
• Iyasenu wrote on 2015-09-05 14:04

  Quote from Rynn;1285839:

  Or if the most logical option isn't already fixed..........
  
  *video*

  
  
  I think that's been patched (video says Aug 23 and this was the 27th), but lmao I'm glad someone was able to get a video of that.
  
  Reminds me of that Play Dead + Shock situation they patched.
  
  
  I guess otherwise, a pet with a lot of natural HP/Def/Prot would be a nice tank.
  Like the Sheeptuplet or something.
• Rynn wrote on 2015-09-05 14:10
  I still believe!
  
  Idk if anyone asked, but can partners be soul linked?
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-09-05 14:11

  Quote from Rynn;1285841:

  I still believe!
  
  Idk if anyone asked, but can partners be soul linked?

  
  
  See previous page. Answer is no.
• delight wrote on 2015-09-09 16:38
  May I ask a few questions regarding soul link?
  
  Firstly, what will happen to main character if enemies use AOE spells, such as fireball, or multi target spells such as thunders? Can caster get hit while linking to a pet?
  
  Secondly, because there is a reduction on subskill training requirments for some subskills, what will happen if a subskill is already half way done?
  
  Thirdly, are there any news on crusader skill EXP potions? Would love to know how much exp they would actually give, because currently it is very hard to optain crusader skill exp efficiently. I did a curve fitting and under current exp curve it will take about 5 years to reach LV300, if only finishing all daily and weekly Girgashiy raid quests.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-09-09 16:55

  Quote from delight;1286151:

  
  Firstly, what will happen to main character if enemies use AOE spells, such as fireball, or multi target spells such as thunders? Can caster get hit while linking to a pet?
  

  
  Normal skill rules apply. AoE's will still hit you. If you are near your pet when an enemy wacks it and has a large enough splash, you will take damage and be hit. Best policy is to keep your pet at a safe distance.
  
  

  Quote from delight;1286151:

  
  Secondly, because there is a reduction on subskill training requirments for some subskills, what will happen if a subskill is already half way done?
  

  
  
  Not sure. I can only assume that it works with how past skills have worked when training requirements were modified
  
  

  Quote from delight;1286151:

  
  Thirdly, are there any news on crusader skill EXP potions? Would love to know how much exp they would actually give, because currently it is very hard to optain crusader skill exp efficiently. I did a curve fitting and under current exp curve it will take about 5 years to reach LV300, if only finishing all daily and weekly Girgashiy raid quests.

  
  
  No further info on those at this time. I haven't managed to get a single one of those potions yet.
• delight wrote on 2015-09-09 17:38
  Thank you very much for your quick response! Also love your coverage on G20's stuff!
• Invisible wrote on 2015-09-09 18:53
  Is there any information on the new training requirements for the old crusader skills?
  
  I mainly want to know if they can be trained solo yet.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-09-09 19:32
  Right I should probably get those translated. I'll see if Teto is free, or actually.
  
  Ok scratch the english patch, apparently they added new lines so need to get the new lines translated and all that stuff.
  
  What I can say is that I managed to get r9 in all 3 crusader skills by spamming them while playing through G20. Teto did not manage the same thing so they'll say it's not possible while I think it is possible, just not sure if how I used them in G20 impacted it or not.
  
  

  Quote from Invisible;1286155:

  Is there any information on the new training requirements for the old crusader skills?
  
  I mainly want to know if they can be trained solo yet.

  
  
  Okay Kapra updated his page: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/User:Kapra/Future_Content#Judgement_Blade
  
  From what I can see is that:
  
  Judgement Blade can now be soloed to r8, previously you could only get to rD solo
  Celestial Spike can now be soloed to r8, previously you could only get it to rD solo
  Shield of Trust can now be soloed to r4, previously you could only get it to r5 solo
  
  So yes, you still need a party, but the point at which you need a party is now much later.
• Tetosan wrote on 2015-09-09 22:34
  So i've Finished the Thing XD
  
  Starting with the Main Skills:
  
  [SPOILER="Shield of Trust"]Shield of Trust
  
  Rank Novice:
  Unchanged
  
  Rank F:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 20 (5)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 10 (6)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 30 (5)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 10 (6)
  
  
  Rank E:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 12 (8)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 8 (6)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 20 (8)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 8 (6)
  
  
  Rank D:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 8 (12)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 6 (8)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 12 (12)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 6 (8)
  
  
  Rank C:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 6 (15)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 4 (10)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 10 (15)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 5 (10)
  
  
  Rank B:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 4 (20)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 2 (20)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 8 (20)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 4 (20)
  
  
  Rank A:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 3.5 (23)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 1.5 (30)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 2 (20)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 6 (23)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 2 (30)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 4 (20)
  
  
  Rank 9
  Pre:
  Use the skill 3 (25)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 1 (45)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 2 (20)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 4 (25)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 2 (45)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 3 (20)
  
  
  Rank 8:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 2.5 (30)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.8 (50)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 1.5 (25)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 3 (30)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 1 (50)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 1.5 (25)
  
  
  Rank 7:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 2 (35)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.6 (60)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 2 (20)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 2 (35)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.8 (60)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 1 (35)
  
  
  Rank 6:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 1.8 (38)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.4 (80)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.5 (50)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 1.8 (38)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.5 (80)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.9 (50)
  
  
  Rank 5:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 1.5 (45)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.3 (100)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.4 (60)
  Successfully protect 2 or more allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.5 (60)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 1.5 (45)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.4 (100)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.6 (60)
  Successfully protect 2 or more allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 1 (60)
  
  
  Rank 4:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 1 (60)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.3 (120)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.3 (75)
  Successfully protect 2 or more allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.4 (80)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 1 (60)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.3 (120)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.5 (75)
  Successfully protect 2 or more allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.6 (80)
  
  
  Rank 3:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 0.5 (100)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.2 (150)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.2 (90)
  Successfully protect 2 or more allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.3 (90)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 0.5 (100)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.2 (150)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.4 (90)
  Successfully protect 2 or more allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.5 (90)
  
  
  
  Rank 2:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 0.2 (200)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.1 (200)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.1 (150)
  Successfully protect 2 or more allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.2 (150)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 1.5 (45)
  Successfully defend Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.4 (100)
  Successfully protect allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.2 (150)
  Successfully protect 2 or more allies from Apostle's Mineral Hail skill. 0.3 (150)
  
  [/SPOILER]
  
  [SPOILER="Celestial Spikes"]Celestial Spikes
  
  Rank Novice:
  Unchanged
  
  Rank F:
  Unchanged
  
  Rank E:
  Unchanged
  
  
  Rank D:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 8 (12)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 6 (8)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 10 (12)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 8 (8)
  
  
  Rank C:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 6 (15)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 4 (10)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 8 (15)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 6 (10)
  
  
  Rank B:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 4 (20)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 2 (20)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 5 (20)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 4 (20)
  
  
  Rank A:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 3.5 (23)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 1.5 (30)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 4.5 (23)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 3 (30)
  
  
  Rank 9
  Pre:
  Use the skill 3 (25)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 1 (45)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 4 (25)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 2 (45)
  
  
  Rank 8:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 2.5 (30)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 0.8 (50)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 3 (30)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 1.5 (50)
  
  
  Rank 7:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 2 (35)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 0.6 (60)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 2.5 (35)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 1 (60)
  
  
  Rank 6:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 1.8 (38)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 0.4 (80)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 2 (38)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 0.8 (80)
  
  
  Rank 5:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 1.5 (45)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 0.3 (130)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 1.5 (45)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 0.5 (130)
  
  
  Rank 4:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 1 (60)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 0.3 (120)
  Defeat Apostle with Divine damage. 1 (50)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 1 (60)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 0.3 (120)
  Defeat Apostle with Divine damage. 1.2 (50)
  
  
  Rank 3:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 0.5 (100)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 0.2 (200)
  Defeat Apostle with Divine damage. 0.6 (100)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 0.5 (100)
  Successfully counter an Apostle's Mineral Hail attack with Celestial Spike. 0.2 (200)
  Defeat Apostle with Divine damage. 0.8 (100)[/SPOILER]
  
  [SPOILER="Judgement Blade"]Judgement Blade
  
  Rank Novice:
  Unchanged
  
  Rank F:
  Unchanged
  
  Rank E:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 10 (10)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 12 (10)
  
  Rank D:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 8 (12)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 6 (8)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 10 (12)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 8 (8)
  
  
  Rank C:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 6 (15)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 4 (10)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 8 (15)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 6 (10)
  
  
  Rank B:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 4 (20)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 2 (20)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 5 (20)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 4 (20)
  
  
  Rank A:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 3.5 (23)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 1.5 (30)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 4.5 (23)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 3 (30)
  
  
  Rank 9
  Pre:
  Use the skill 3 (25)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 1 (45)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 4 (25)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 2 (45)
  
  
  Rank 8:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 2.5 (30)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 0.8 (50)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 3 (30)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 1.5 (50)
  
  
  Rank 7:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 2 (35)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 0.6 (60)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 2.5 (35)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 1 (60)
  
  
  Rank 6:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 1.8 (38)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 0.4 (80)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 2 (38)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 0.8 (80)
  
  
  Rank 5:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 1.5 (45)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 0.3 (130)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 1.5 (45)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 0.5 (130)
  
  
  Rank 4:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 1 (60)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 0.3 (120)
  Use Judgment Blade to finish an Apostle. 1.5 (25)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 1.2 (60)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 0.3 (120)
  Use Judgment Blade to finish an Apostle. 2 (25)
  
  Rank 3:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 0.5 (100)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 0.2 (200)
  Use Judgment Blade to finish an Apostle. 1 (35)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 0.5 (100)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 0.2 (200)
  Use Judgment Blade to finish an Apostle. 1.5 (35)
  
  Rank 2:
  Pre:
  Use the skill 0.2 (200)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 0.1 (500)
  Use Judgment Blade to finish an Apostle. 0.5 (50)
  
  G20:
  Use the skill 0.2 (200)
  Smite a fully-bound Apostle after countering Mineral Hail with Celestial Spike. 0.1 (500)
  Use Judgment Blade to finish an Apostle. 0.8 (50)[/SPOILER]
  
  
  And now onto the Subskills:
  
  Giving Heart
  
  NO CHANGES
  
  [SPOILER="Healing Hands"]Only the later Ranks of this Subskill change starting at Level 7
  
  Level 7
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 2.5 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 3.125 training
  
  Level 8
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2.5 training
  
  Level 9
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  
  Level 10
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.5 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  
  Level 11
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.1 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.5 training
  
  Level 12
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.05 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.3125 training
  
  Level 13
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.04 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.2 training
  
  Level 14
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.02 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.1 training[/SPOILER]
  
  [SPOILER="Magic Dampening"]
  Only the later Ranks of this Subskill change starting at Level 7
  
  Level 7
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 2.5 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 3.125 training
  
  Level 8
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2.5 training
  
  Level 9
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  
  Level 10
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.5 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  
  Level 11
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.1 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.5 training
  
  Level 12
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.05 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.3125 training
  
  Level 13
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.04 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.2 training
  
  Level 14
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.02 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.1 training[/SPOILER]
  
  Guarded Footsteps
  
  No changes
  
  Recovering Touch
  
  No changes
  
  Deepening Trust
  
  No changes
  
  [SPOILER="Spreading Faith"]Level 1
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 20 training
  
  Level 2
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 10 training
  
  Level 3
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 10 training
  
  Level 4
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 5 training
  
  Level 5
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 5 training
  
  Level 6
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 4 training
  
  Level 7
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 4 training
  
  Level 8
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 3.125 training
  
  Level 9
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 3.125 training
  
  Level 10
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  
  Level 11
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  
  Level 12
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  
  Level 13
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  
  Level 14
  No change[/SPOILER]
  
  Wounding Soul
  
  No change
  
  [SPOILER="Weighed Conscience"]Level 1
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 20 training
  
  Level 2
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 10 training
  
  Level 3
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 10 training
  
  Level 4
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 5 training
  
  Level 5
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 5 training
  
  Level 6
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 4 training
  
  Level 7
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 4 training
  
  Level 8
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 3.125 training
  
  Level 9
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 3.125 training
  
  Level 10
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  
  Level 11
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  
  Level 12
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  
  Level 13
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  
  Level 14
  No change[/SPOILER]
  
  [SPOILER="Sinful Thorns"]Level 1
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 20 training
  
  Level 2
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 10 training
  
  Level 3
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 10 training
  
  Level 4
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 5 training
  
  Level 5
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 5 training
  
  Level 6
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 4 training
  
  Level 7
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 4 training
  
  Level 8
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 3 training
  
  Level 9
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 3 training
  
  Level 10
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  
  Level 11
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  
  Level 12
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  
  Level 13
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  
  Level 14
  No change[/SPOILER]
  
  [SPOILER="Stronger Power"]
  Level 7
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 2.5 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 3.125 training
  
  Level 8
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2.5 training
  
  Level 9
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  
  Level 10
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.5 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  
  Level 11
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.1 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.5 training
  
  Level 12
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.05 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.3125 training
  
  Level 13
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.04 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.2 training
  
  Level 14
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.02 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.1 training[/SPOILER]
  
  Binding Needle
  
  No change
  
  [SPOILER="Breaking Lies"]Level 5
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 5 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 6.25 training
  
  Level 6
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 4 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 5 training
  
  Level 7
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 4 training
  
  Level 8
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 3.125 training
  
  Level 9
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.5 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2.5 training
  
  Level 10
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.2 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 2 training
  
  Level 11
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.1 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 1 training
  
  Level 12
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.05 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.5 training
  
  Level 13
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.04 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.25 training
  
  Level 14
  Pre-G20: Each successful use gives 0.02 training
  G20: Each successful use gives 0.1 training[/SPOILER]
  
  Christening Blade
  
  No change
  
  Holy Vitality
  
  No change
  
  
  
  That should be it, i hope i didn't make a mistake but i'm a bit tired ^^''