[KR] Shop: Sealed Skill Training Seal (1+1) // 31st of August, 2015

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Esileruf wrote on 2015-09-02 00:27

Quote from ï¼£ï¼©ï¼²ï¼®ï¼¯;1285598:
[QUOTE=Kingofrunes;1285582]Mari is okay without three extra Touhou cosplayers.

:^(

Ok[/QUOTE]

I'm fairly certain at least three people on that server have done 2hu cosplays.
Kapra wrote on 2015-09-02 00:55

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:^)

But, by then, I hope the get a server merge before that first due to the low amounts of players on Ruairi, Mari and Tarlach.

I don't really think Mari or Ruairi is that low. Mari is slightly over Ruairi, but from what I hear of Tarlachians, Tarlach is really underpopulated (can't confirm that myself as I don't touch Tarlach anymore). What I'd rather see Ruairi and Tarlach only merged. Cuz right now if anything, Alexina needs to be split up, and Ruairi, Tarlach, and Mari merging into some Three Heroes server will put that server only slightly above Alexina in population (I think).

Also I don't play Touhou but I see plenty of Touhou cosplays in Ruairi and they'd be welcome.
ï¼£ï¼©ï¼²ï¼®ï¼¯ wrote on 2015-09-02 01:39

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I don't really think Mari or Ruairi is that low. Mari is slightly over Ruairi, but from what I hear of Tarlachians, Tarlach is really underpopulated (can't confirm that myself as I don't touch Tarlach anymore). What I'd rather see Ruairi and Tarlach only merged. Cuz right now if anything, Alexina needs to be split up, and Ruairi, Tarlach, and Mari merging into some Three Heroes server will put that server only slightly above Alexina in population (I think).

Also I don't play Touhou but I see plenty of Touhou cosplays in Ruairi and they'd be welcome.

Most of Ruairi's population is AFK, JIC you don't know :U
Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-09-02 01:53

Quote from ï¼£ï¼©ï¼²ï¼®ï¼¯;1285598:
:^(

Ok

Mari could always use more touhou cosplayers.
Kapra wrote on 2015-09-02 02:06

Quote from ï¼£ï¼©ï¼²ï¼®ï¼¯;1285604:
Most of Ruairi's population is AFK, JIC you don't know :U

I don't have trouble finding active people on Ruairi, that applies to friends and randomers. Maybe its the country you're from/time of day you're able to be on that makes your experience different than mine?
Zeo wrote on 2015-09-02 03:45

Quote from Kapra;1285603:
I don't really think Mari or Ruairi is that low. Mari is slightly over Ruairi, but from what I hear of Tarlachians, Tarlach is really underpopulated (can't confirm that myself as I don't touch Tarlach anymore). What I'd rather see Ruairi and Tarlach only merged. Cuz right now if anything, Alexina needs to be split up, and Ruairi, Tarlach, and Mari merging into some Three Heroes server will put that server only slightly above Alexina in population (I think).

Also I don't play Touhou but I see plenty of Touhou cosplays in Ruairi and they'd be welcome.

We are going quite off the topic here but...

If anything, I'd make it so Tarlach get merged into Ruairi server... That or make Tarlachian players move into Ruairi or Mari by their choice.

Alexina are bit overpopulated, yes, but it's NOT overpopulated enough to call for a server split though.
ï¼£ï¼©ï¼²ï¼®ï¼¯ wrote on 2015-09-02 06:20

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We are going quite off the topic here but...

If anything, I'd make it so Tarlach get merged into Ruairi server... That or make Tarlachian players move into Ruairi or Mari by their choice.

Alexina are bit overpopulated, yes, but it's NOT overpopulated enough to call for a server split though.

Yessss, force Aubog back into the lands of Ruairi, yessss...

From what I can see, the topic is pretty much done already. There isn't a lot to talk about for NX purchasable skill training seals...
Kapra wrote on 2015-09-02 07:27

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Alexina are bit overpopulated, yes, but it's NOT overpopulated enough to call for a server split though.

The server split part was a joke, I don't think that should ever actually be the case. It's the dev's fault for overshooting it. But I dont' think Alexina is entirely stable either, if Alexina becomes as stable as Ruairi or Mari, then I can see them doing a Three Heroes server merge.

Yea I don't see how much the OP topic can progress further than it already has.

I'm not sure how I feel about skill seals. I don't hate them or think they're immoral, and I do think it's stupid to dislike someone just because they paid for seals. But I do like how there are multiple objectives to get skills progressed and you don't need to do them all to get a 100% done with it. I just wish skill objectives were more varied and not just different flavors of the same attacking mechanic.
ï¼£ï¼©ï¼²ï¼®ï¼¯ wrote on 2015-09-02 07:55

Quote from Kapra;1285625:
The server split part was a joke, I don't think that should ever actually be the case. It's the dev's fault for overshooting it. But I dont' think Alexina is entirely stable either, if Alexina becomes as stable as Ruairi or Mari, then I can see them doing a Three Heroes server merge.

Yea I don't see how much the OP topic can progress further than it already has.

I'm not sure how I feel about skill seals. I don't hate them or think they're immoral, and I do think it's stupid to dislike someone just because they paid for seals. But I do like how there are multiple objectives to get skills progressed and you don't need to do them all to get a 100% done with it. I just wish skill objectives were more varied and not just different flavors of the same attacking mechanic.

Mabinogi's skill system would have been perfect... If it wasn't such a grind.

IMO what's putting me off in ranking any other skills except Magic is because of the massive amounts of investment time that I would (in the end) have to part-take just for the sake of ranking that skill up (i.e. Hillwen Engineering, Magic Crafting, Snap Casting, etc.)

I do not like it when Meteor Strike requires me to wait a few minutes before I can train it some more, and I definetly will hate getting that skill up to Master.

Furthermore, they are already willing enough to release skill training potions, which are technically specific 100% skill training seals, anyway.

I want to enjoy the game.

Grinding is a chore, not entertainment. I don't mind working a little for my skills, but when it becomes a full-time job, that's when it has to stop.

Nexon NA should set Skill Training Seals for us. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Qnjo wrote on 2015-09-02 11:24

inb4 next update is "skill training renovation" and everything is much easier to train. Nexon loves doing that.
callback wrote on 2015-09-02 14:05

Here's my main problem with the seals: Back when things were all done by hand, I decided to put my time towards ALL of the life skills, grinding the hell out of them. I made that my "thing," and got to reap the benefits of cheap stats per AP at the cost of time investment. At the same time, you guys were all off powerleveling, stockpiling WAY more AP than me, so you didn't need to worry about cheap or efficient investments, you could just brute force it and most people are much stronger than me because of it.

Instead of AP, I got my life training done. It was one or the other for my time in the game. Unless Nexon is going to release AP potions (or 2x AP potions?) alongside this in the shop, the seals are unfair to those of us who prioritized life over levels. If you get to pay to replicate my progress, I should be able to pay to replicate yours.

On the note of servers, why does everyone say Tarlach is small? You should have seen the lag at the GM bait handout event. Plus in recent months I've noticed a crapton more beginners than normal, so it's only increasing. The only thing we lack are good bladers, mostly because the people strong enough to BE our good bladers are uninterested in raids and don't feel like grinding the skills up to BECOME bladers. VHM scoreboard forever blank, with the occasional WM cheese run popping up. Hopefully g20's relaxed crusader training requirements will improve that.
ï¼£ï¼©ï¼²ï¼®ï¼¯ wrote on 2015-09-02 14:12

Quote from callback;1285633:
Here's my main problem with the seals: Back when things were all done by hand, I decided to put my time towards ALL of the life skills, grinding the hell out of them. I made that my "thing," and got to reap the benefits of cheap stats per AP at the cost of time investment. At the same time, you guys were all off powerleveling, stockpiling WAY more AP than me, so you didn't need to worry about cheap or efficient investments, you could just brute force it and most people are much stronger than me because of it.

Instead of AP, I got my life training done. It was one or the other for my time in the game. Unless Nexon is going to release AP potions (or 2x AP potions?) alongside this in the shop, the seals are unfair to those of us who prioritized life over levels. If you get to pay to replicate my progress, I should be able to pay to replicate yours.

On the note of servers, why does everyone say Tarlach is small? You should have seen the lag at the GM bait handout event. Plus in recent months I've noticed a crapton more beginners than normal, so it's only increasing. The only thing we lack are good bladers, mostly because the people strong enough to BE our good bladers are uninterested in raids and don't feel like grinding the skills up to BECOME bladers. VHM scoreboard forever blank, with the occasional WM cheese run popping up. Hopefully g20's relaxed crusader training requirements will improve that.

Nope.

I see no need for AP potions.

If you've ground all your life skills, technically, you would have hundreds, if not thousands, of AP right now, since you would be the master of a whole batch of life skills. AP potions are fine, IDGAF about them because I have like 3.5K AP in stock. Besides, you can weekly RB, AP shouldn't be a problem.

You can have all the AP potions you want, m8 :)
Ghostmonkey wrote on 2015-09-03 02:27

Well they finally made this game a pay to win game officially. No time to grind because of your overpowered job? Spend in the cash shop and become overpowered overnight... = 3=
Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-09-03 09:36

Quote from Ghostmonkey;1285684:
Well they finally made this game a pay to win game officially. No time to grind because of your overpowered job? Spend in the cash shop and become overpowered overnight... = 3=

You do realize that KR has been doing this for at least a year or two right? This isn't the first nor the last time KR sold Training Seals in the cash shop. NA has done it prior as well via the 7th Anniversary Gach.

Also it's not a perma addition, it's a temporary sale like every other past training seal sale. Chill.

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