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Kingofrunes wrote on 2015-09-08 00:49
So since I started working on trying to get Master of all Talents I've begun to think, which was the most unpleasant skills to have ever had the misfortune of trying to rank? Well below is my least favorite skills that I've decided to rank.
1) Sakuya Abyss - It's low training points and long cooldown, makes this one a real pain in the butt to rank. I plan on sealing this guy, just as soon as it goes on sale. Got it to r7 but now it's trying my patience
2) Smokescreen - Tediously boring, low training points per use. It requires a special kind of patience to rank this guy. I plan on sealing this guy, just as soon as it goes on sale. Got it to r6 but now it's trying my patience
3) Metallurgy - My god, the silver ore requirement was the bane of my existence. Haunted me for awhile. Somehow managed to get it to r1. With the help of 4x exp.
4) Grapple Shot - Same reason as smokescreen, just utterly grindy as heck. I don't intend on moving this past r5 for a long long time. Probably not worth using seals on.
5) Magic Crafting - The Grind! I used seals top end this one during 7th anniversary
6) Engineering - The Grind! The moment I get seals, this is also going down. After I tackle the ninja headaches
There's probably a bunch more but I've managed to get those ones out of the way or don't care enough about them
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CIRNO wrote on 2015-09-08 01:30
Snap casting.
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Esileruf wrote on 2015-09-08 02:19
1) Alchemy Mastery: The fact that I dislike alchemy to begin with makes this piece of garbage daunting with the fact that I'm 3.8k CP and I only just got access to an RC. Getting boss counts would be a nightmare outside of OA.
2)Engineering: I skipped r5+ with seals. Putting in enough that I could mine the tower and rank it from +40 points per rank. Its why I stress that engineering is far more annoying than MC. I'd much rather gather several hundred average firewood, than several thousand emerald cores.
3)Hydra Transmutation: This one is piecemeal. I actually had to train this using the first three rounds of MA for my mastery, with a red scar sword and an abysmal pot, adjusting my CP and abusing the stuck mobs and how their AI worked. Summon pet, slap them into line, slap the one with a bow twice with a pet to get them to switch, move pet out of range, and voila. The healer will contiously keep the mobs alive as the -36% damage from my hurricane with 0 stamina makes sure I never kill them. Without that, this would have been a nightmare unlike any other. Along with the 8000 hydra uses.
I haven't done Grapple, bullet, flash launcher, or the un-needed skills of ninja to properly use the skillset. I don't consider them difficult because they're just grindy as hell.
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Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-09-08 02:21
- Alchemy Mastery - Excessively high counts of training in both crafting and killing CP monsters. Has the dumb "Make crystal without magic" requirement which isn't even possible to complete anymore (even though it's not necessary).
- Meteor Strike - Back when it had its notoriously long cooldown.
- Barrier Spikes - Automatically cancels if setup fails for whatever reason.
- Frozen Blast - My current CP requires me to run around Tara and Castle and back with a tendering pot. Disregarding that, Golems are immune to it, and killing frozen mobs with party rule changes and forgetting to change them back immediately thaws the mob and leaves "Finish" above their heads.
- Crusader - No one does Girgashiy raid anymore.
- Spirit Weapon Awakening - Doesn't starve fast enough, doesn't get enough EXP from eating, too much EXP required to level up.
Quote from Esileruf:
3.8k CP. Getting boss counts would be a nightmare outside of OA.
I have 4.4k~ CP, I think you're a bit more lucky than I am when you have Corrupt Alchemists still as Strong. If Kitchen Dungeon is becoming Awful, just do Saga and hound Lorna for Tendering Pots.
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alwmiioktm wrote on 2015-09-08 02:57
engineering, even at rank A I could see the bullshit it would take to complete this, so sealed 2 win. The last few ranks of enchants on 8x were pretty tedious too and holy water intensive
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Homin wrote on 2015-09-08 04:05
My CP still 1.6k and I'm stuck at Alchemy Mastery "OTL
Also, Hilwen Engineering and Magic Craft is 2 things I'll never rank them now. Since it would take a lot of time and no CP involve.
PS. My Metallurgy at r3 right now and I'm really boring to rank them D:
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pinkkea wrote on 2015-09-08 04:20
All the music buffs :(
All of them.
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Juno wrote on 2015-09-08 04:56
Artifact Investigation.
Mainly because every time I use it, I think about how it's not worth the gold it costs.
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Avino wrote on 2015-09-08 05:18
Smash. Was the hardest Skill i've ever ranked.. fuck you crit requirements!
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ttinchung111 wrote on 2015-09-08 06:45
Puppet's Snare. I sat down to do it while doing starlet and I died inside while snaring just a ton of mongeese. I had newly obtained wounding soul so I decided to train it while doing snare. Got level 15 snare in only 2 or 3 ranks of snare. I got from rank 8 to rank 4 in two and a half grueling hours(I just really hate the menial tasks and how long the animation takes, and points are given at the end of the super long snare. Couldn't even train in alban due to the monsters being immune.. I used training potions or else I would have gone mad from three more ranks.
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Twin wrote on 2015-09-08 09:22
I'm really not fan of Smokescreen. GM Ninja now, so that's behind meh o3o
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Kysirai wrote on 2015-09-08 10:21
Bullet storm - I've been to tnn to train on zombies so many times at this point i hate even going to the place
Bash - eats my dura since i blew up my 2nd celtic sword and the skill's name says a lot. Just bash and bash and bash...
All alchemy skills - The only ones I like are the most annoying to rank (shock, frozen blast, hydra etc)
Any crafting or life skill - IT TAKES FOREVER and tbh I'm only doing it for stats at this point the disposable income would just be a bonus
Crusader - like was said early no one runs girg and since I rb'd to 10 for the weekly i haven't been able to wear my jackal wiz suit to help me train the alch skills (hell it feels like no one is running anything anymore...)
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Nakishu wrote on 2015-09-08 10:41
Quote from Kysirai;1286056:
Bullet storm - I've been to tnn to train on zombies so many times at this point i hate even going to the place
Bash - eats my dura since i blew up my 2nd celtic sword and the skill's name says a lot. Just bash and bash and bash...
Just finished ranking Bullet Storm and Shooting Rush from about rank 8 to 1 at TNN, took me over 6 hours or so. Didn't think the grind was really that bad IMO and Bash was super easy for me.
For me it's puppetry skills, I don't know why but these are the most annoying ones for me. I'm between rank 5-1 on all of them except Pierrot and Colossus which are rank A due to being useless with puppets in combat and latency makes them hard to use.
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Tropa wrote on 2015-09-08 11:24
The entirety of the Ninja and Gunslinger skill sets.
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Qnjo wrote on 2015-09-08 11:26
I think we can agree that DevCat sucks really hard at creating skill training requirements, period. At this point they should scrap them altogether and either make skills rankable as soon as one has AP for it (like in Vindictus) or have a quest for each rank - First Aid, Composition and few others work like that and those are the only ones that are fun to work on.