[KR] GM Beilet's Review on Milletian Q&A Session, "Secret, Talk" // 6th of November,

• Qnjo wrote on 2015-12-05 19:08

  Quote from Rynn;1291223:

  please give our giants play dead.

  
  No. Playing dead is for the weak. Giants should be able to tank away practically anything. Although fixing Taunt would be required first.
• Esileruf wrote on 2015-12-07 05:55

  Quote from Rynn;1291223:

  The most commonly used method to run VHM is to glitch girgashiy's AI upon entry.
  
  Play dead is used by most players before entering VHM, so they don't draw aggro while a "lure" glitches girgashiy's AI so that it swings its staff in place and flies quickly.
  
  Since giants have no play dead and rely on crisis escape, it can be inconvenient because VHM ends in 25~30s but crisis escape's cooldown is longer than that. Also, sometimes the aggro glitch may not work and the party may end up waiting for the giant's CD to be up before re-entry.
  
  tl;dr: please give our giants play dead.

  
  
  But crisis escape lasts 20s and has a cd of 35s, and you can use crisis a little while before entering, generally immediately upon exit/before exit, and it works fine.
• Rynn wrote on 2015-12-07 06:08

  Quote from Esileruf;1291278:

  But crisis escape lasts 20s and has a cd of 35s, and you can use crisis a little while before entering, generally immediately upon exit/before exit, and it works fine.

  
  
  CD is not fast enough at the speed it dies a lot of the times, much less in g20 when people will want to go out and back in even faster than they do now. Also, because people make mistakes, every so often someone will not pd/crisis in time or leave a pet out so have to exit and re-enter which makes the crisis escape cd more noticeable.
  
  I mean, it's not a big deal and there are ways around having to use it at all, but since nothing beats the mindless and foolproof simplicity of using play dead (you don't even need to r1 playing dead for god's sake!) for gold/exp only runs it'd just be nice if they had it.
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-12-07 08:16

  Quote from Rynn;1291223:

  
  
  tl;dr: please give our giants play dead.

  
  
  Inb4 someone says "BUT THAT WOULD BE TOO OP"
  
  In all seriousness, is playing dead really relevant in current contents anymore? Besides for VHM raids?
• Keitsoru wrote on 2015-12-07 08:35

  Quote from Rynn;1291223:

  The most commonly used method to run VHM is to glitch girgashiy's AI upon entry.
  
  Play dead is used by most players before entering VHM, so they don't draw aggro while a "lure" glitches girgashiy's AI so that it swings its staff in place and flies quickly.
  
  Since giants have no play dead and rely on crisis escape, it can be inconvenient because VHM ends in 25~30s but crisis escape's cooldown is longer than that. Also, sometimes the aggro glitch may not work and the party may end up waiting for the giant's CD to be up before re-entry.
  
  tl;dr: please give our giants play dead.

  
  
  Not trying to start anything, but am I the only one who sees the irony in people complaining about a lack of challenging content, and then turning around and abusing exploits? I mean, the raids are meant to be difficult, and I get that it becomes boring to run the same thing 100 times, but if you feel you have to abuse a glitch to spam it, there you go, you can potentially say it's not too easy. I dunno, it just kinda seems contradictory to me.
• Rynn wrote on 2015-12-07 09:04
  I wouldn't know, as I like steamrolling content and never complain about challenging status of things.
  
  Besides, it's not as if not using aggro management will add any challenge to the mission I mean it's just more efficient time-wise to have it fly 5~10 seconds earlier than not if you're gonna run it 100 times in an afternoon.
  
  Players are gonna OHKO it with their blades regardless of whether it's a few seconds earlier or not, there is no challenge being adjusted in any way by using smarter aggro management than just going in #yolo.
• Syliara wrote on 2015-12-07 09:38

  Quote from Keitsoru;1291281:

  Not trying to start anything, but am I the only one who sees the irony in people complaining about a lack of challenging content, and then turning around and abusing exploits? I mean, the raids are meant to be difficult, and I get that it becomes boring to run the same thing 100 times, but if you feel you have to abuse a glitch to spam it, there you go, you can potentially say it's not too easy. I dunno, it just kinda seems contradictory to me.

  
  
  The only thing aggro manipulation does to the raid is cut down on the amount of time people spend waiting for it to fly. It adds 0 difficulty to the raid and just makes it slightly annoying to instead hop on a pet and avoid the staff swing for a few more seconds. This content is still not challenging, and is not any more challenging by removing the aggro glitch, it just makes it slightly less annoying to spam.
• Keitsoru wrote on 2015-12-07 10:05
  Ah, okay. The way things were sounding, it seemed like some glitch that broke the balance of the raid. I haven't bothered with it to know what it's actually like.