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Iyasenu wrote on 2010-09-25 07:08
I am. :X
I'm a sucker for passive skills like this.
Even thought it'd take like 1.9 months to just earn back the AP to get to rA.
But passive is passive.
I'll try to work it up after CM and Smashes...
AP... isn't finite... is it?
I mean, it just gets slower later on, but there are some missions that will never hit 0 AP, right?
I'm a sucker for passive skills, but Meditation also sounds mystic, so I'm drawn in more. :O
Oh anyways, who else is going to get it capped?
Or isn't?
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Ruquion wrote on 2010-09-25 07:17
Not 1.9 months.
Quote from Ruquion:
Rank F Medi = 1440/58.25 = ~24.72 AP/day
Rank A Medi = 1440/50.75 = ~28.37 AP/day
Rank A Medi = 1430 AP
Time needed for Rank A Medi to pay for itself = 1430/(28.37-24.72) = ~391.43 days.
Also, opportunity cost. Taking Rank A Medi early means you don't put AP into offensive skills. In the same time it takes you to complete 4 missions, people who placed AP into offensive skills could probably do 5. Therefore they would gain more AP from missions.
I believe it was mentioned somewhere that it was 1 second for every 7 points of INT. You probably only have ~200 more INT than most people even with full INT gear. 30 seconds isn't that much.
Personally not going to get it
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eoneagle wrote on 2010-09-25 08:41
Meditation *could* be good.
Its generally not good on your main char since offensive skills are better for fighting (obviously), and you will invest more time in fights.
You can always make an alt char and max med on that. Then every 3 days, just spend 1 minute to put the AP from med into a skill of your choice. repeat for a long, long time and it will pay off big time :] (maybe. unless you take one of those long breaks and forget to use the AP. Then you're foodged)
Best to just make an alt with rank F med and do the above, but meh.
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Zid wrote on 2010-09-25 13:32
You could always try to get 700 Int on that rA Meditation character.
For 640 second (10 minutes and 40 seconds) reduction.
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Ruquion wrote on 2010-09-25 15:39
Quote from Zid;165341:
You could always try to get 700 Int on that rA Meditation character.
For 640 second (10 minutes and 40 seconds) reduction.
I think it was mentioned that 7 INT reduced the time by 1 second
700 INT - 300 INT (Most people have this) = 400 INT = 57 seconds
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Okitaru wrote on 2010-09-25 17:14
My plan is to do meditation after I run out of useful things, (even after armor masterys though, light if I use heavy still, so not top priority) just so I don't enter a AP waste when I try to do BP 100%
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Chockeh wrote on 2010-09-25 17:27
Might make a mule and try to max meditation as much as I can, who knows how long I will play.
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Cucurbita wrote on 2010-09-25 18:31
If you pour into it at the very start, it'll be worth it in the *very* long run. So yes, I am putting points into it when I'm not putting points into guard and shield mastery.
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Taycat wrote on 2010-09-25 18:44
I'm just dumping left over points into it when I don't have exactly enough for the other skills.
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Spartaaaaa wrote on 2010-09-25 22:30
ewww, meditation costs way too much AP. It'll take years for it to pay for itself if I capped it.
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Ruquion wrote on 2010-09-25 23:34
Quote from Spartaaaaa;165810:
ewww, meditation costs way too much AP. It'll take years for it to pay for itself if I capped it.
Only one year =s
BTW, when the token system is implemented, you'd only be able to play 6-7 battles a day, which should be around 2 hours.
You'd have more than enough time to play on your alts as well, so I doubt it'd be a good idea to get Meditation on them
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Okitaru wrote on 2010-09-26 01:56
Quote from Ruquion;165872:
Only one year =s
BTW, when the token system is implemented, you'd only be able to play 6-7 battles a day, which should be around 2 hours.
You'd have more than enough time to play on your alts as well, so I doubt it'd be a good idea to get Meditation on them
Uhh 6-7? 50 gets you more than that, I get 7 battles done in about 2 hours, but I dont even go far in token usage. Unless future boats will be costing 5 tokens as a start fee...
Besides we'll probably have some sort of NX item for a full free boat ride we'll all abuse for nexon to make bundles, then ruins should have AP restored daily when that update comes out too, meaning its far from a dead end, but for now it sort of does become one...
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Ruquion wrote on 2010-09-26 02:18
Quote from Chuugoku;166004:
Uhh 6-7? 50 gets you more than that, I get 7 battles done in about 2 hours, but I dont even go far in token usage. Unless future boats will be costing 5 tokens as a start fee...
Besides we'll probably have some sort of NX item for a full free boat ride we'll all abuse for nexon to make bundles, then ruins should have AP restored daily when that update comes out too, meaning its far from a dead end, but for now it sort of does become one...
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Kueh wrote on 2010-09-26 02:24
First of all, during the beta tokens reset on the hour.
Second of all, ew.
What kind of pervert plans their pleasure time like some crazy excel obsessed freak?
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Cucurbita wrote on 2010-09-26 03:37
Quote from Whyrainfalls;166032:
What kind of pervert plans their pleasure time like some crazy excel obsessed freak?
Someone has to do it or the wiki is obsolete.