Debate: Goku vs. Superman

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Piko wrote on 2010-10-24 18:52

Goku not in Super Saiyan form = Superman.

Goku just needs to go Super Saiyan to kick his ass. Not to mention he has an extremely huge arsenal of stronger attacks that Superman does not have. Don't forget that he and another dude in heaven had a huge intergalactic fight in space just for competition when he didn't even have Super Saiyan 4.
Okitaru wrote on 2010-10-24 18:55

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Excalibur wins.
Magenera wrote on 2010-10-24 18:56

Quote from Pikablu;192736:
Goku not in Super Saiyan form = Superman.

Goku just needs to go Super Saiyan to kick his ass. Not to mention he has an extremely huge arsenal of stronger attacks that Superman does not have. I mean, he and another dude in heaven had a huge intergalactic fight in space just for competition when he didn't even have Super Saiyan 4.

In other words Goku = Superman who hasn't went all out, needs to beat him through the use of Super Sayan. So what does that equates to when Superman goes all out then?
Phunkie wrote on 2010-10-24 18:57

And Goku's faced so many strong opponents. Frickin' Cell and Kid Buu, man!

Superman's strong, but I don't think he could ever defeat Kid Buu.
Piko wrote on 2010-10-24 18:58

Quote from Magenera;192739:
In other words Goku = Superman who hasn't went all out, needs to beat him through the use of Super Sayan. So what does that equates to when Superman goes all out then?

I didn't say that. Goku = Superman would equal a stalemate. If both of them went all out, Goku would still win. From all the stuff I hear about Superman, he isn't so tough to me. They're both aliens that are born to be strong fighters, yet Superman is the only one of them who has a weakness. Not to mention Goku has more than one form of Super Saiyan. Super Saiyan 1 is enough to defeat Superman. Super Saiyan 4 would pulverize him without breaking a sweat.

Edit : Superman would be annihilated against Kid Buu. Kid Buu pulls so much sh*t out of his ass it's a total joke. He would consume Superman as a snack to become more powerful.
Chockeh wrote on 2010-10-24 19:00

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Goku won.
TA wrote on 2010-10-24 19:00

Superman is already going all out. Thus the "super."

Instant transmission + kryptonite. All your theories are moot.

Besides, Goku has friends. I'm sure Bulma could make him a Kryptonite outfit or something.

Hell, Goku could grab Superman and transport him to Krypton. Superman becomes normal human and dies in space.
Phunkie wrote on 2010-10-24 19:02

Quote from Tasha;192746:
Superman is already going all out. Thus the "super."

Instant transmission + kryptonite. All your theories are moot.

Besides, Goku has friends. I'm sure Bulma could make him a Kryptonite outfit or something.

Hell, Goku could grab Superman and transport him to Krypton. Superman becomes normal human and dies in space.

Let's forget about the Kryptonite weakness for a moment.

Just imagine these two guys going all out.
Magenera wrote on 2010-10-24 19:04

Quote from Phunkie;192741:
And Goku's faced so many strong opponents. Frickin' Cell and Kid Buu, man!

Superman's strong, but I don't think he could ever defeat Kid Buu.

Let me put it to you this way, Superman loses so he can adjust to how much strength he has to put in. Wants that happen Superman commence with beating the hell out of Kid Buu like it's nothing. I can say that Darksied is helluva lot stronger than Kid Buu, only needing to use his Omega Beams to do Kid buu in. So no Superman will win. I use to think the same thing till I gotten more information about Supes, have to give this to the man of steel.
Chockeh wrote on 2010-10-24 19:05

Wait give minute!

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Phunkie wrote on 2010-10-24 19:07

Quote from Magenera;192750:
Let me put it to you this way, Superman loses so he can adjust to how much strength he has to put in. Wants that happen Superman commence with beating the hell out of Kid Buu like it's nothing. I can say that Darksied is helluva lot stronger than Kid Buu, only needing to use his Omega Beams to do Kid buu in. So no Superman will win. I use to think the same thing till I gotten more information about Supes, have to give this to the man of steel.

How on Earth can Superman kill Kid Buu?

You can't just beat the thing to death, you gotta obliterate it to pieces. Does Superman have a move capable of that?
Magenera wrote on 2010-10-24 19:10

I put it this way.
Goku new opponent = his limit, till he gets stronger by death/training/ new skill.
Superman new opponent= Superman adjust his strength to be a bit better with out killing.

Goku has limits. Superman limit has yet to be reach.

Quote from Phunkie;192752:
How on Earth can Superman kill Kid Buu?

You can't just beat the thing to death, you gotta obliterate it to pieces. Does Superman have a move capable of that?

Yeah his laser eyes, there no joke, wiped out an army of doomsday clones easily, the said can be said to Kid Buu.
Magenera wrote on 2010-10-24 19:11

Quote from Phunkie;192752:
How on Earth can Superman kill Kid Buu?

You can't just beat the thing to death, you gotta obliterate it to pieces. Does Superman have a move capable of that?

Yeah his laser eyes, there no joke, wiped out an army of doomsday clones easily, the said can be said to Kid Buu.
Phunkie wrote on 2010-10-24 19:13

Quote from Magenera;192753:
I put it this way.
Goku new opponent = his limit, till he gets stronger by death/training/ new skill.
Superman new opponent= Superman adjust his strength to be a bit better with out killing.

Goku has limits. Superman limit has yet to be reach.

Goku's potential is limitless.

And his power grows quite exponentially.

Saiyan Saga to the Frieza Saga, for example. That boost to Super Saiyan just put him on a whole new other level. And his power kept growing while still just a Super Saiyan. In the Cell Saga, for example.

Every new SSJ transformation brings Goku to a whole new level and he still keeps on training and increasing his power.

I feel like Superman's growth in power is slower and more constant.

Also, try not to double post, haha.
TA wrote on 2010-10-24 19:16

Quote from Phunkie;192749:
Let's forget about the Kryptonite weakness for a moment.

Just imagine these two guys going all out.

By the time Goku fought Nappa & Vegeta he could already destroy planets. Roshi could vaporize moons and Goku was already 50x stronger than him at that point (judging by power level). Piccolo also destroyed the Moon with a power level of 700 with just a generic attack. And by that point Vegeta and Nappa could already easily destory planets and Goku was clearly stronger than them.

Cell claimed he could destroy the solar system. Goku wasn't even SS2 at the time. Gohan became SS2 and beat Cell. SS2, which is stronger than Cell who could destroy solar systems, is a power level about 325,000,000 (wayyyyy over 9000).

Not to mention that he goes much higher than that even... SS3 and SS4.

Quote from Magenera;192753:
Yeah his laser eyes, there no joke, wiped out an army of doomsday clones easily, the said can be said to Kid Buu.

That's not enough. Vegeta blew himself up on Buu and Buu managed to come back.

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