For example, a homosexual Christian (that knowingly engaged in homosexual actions before) finding the cure to AIDS. Which should the person be judged on? The person's discovery that potentially saved millions of lives, or that the person engaged in homosexual acts?
Oh wow, more gay debates?
I'll just leave this here.
Romans 8
For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
God loves us, even if we're gay, lesbian, transgender, black, male, female, young, old, disabled, mentally ill, short, tall, Native American, Australian, non-human, human.
God loves all of his creations, equally, unconditionally.
Why would he care about who you sleep with? He doesn't.
And there is no one that can separate us from God's love.
The Bible is supposedly the Word of God, and it's stated in the Bible that any man who lies with another man is killed.
We can hypothesise how Hitler will be judged if he found the cure to AIDS and potentially saving millions of lives as much as we want and it won't make a difference. We don't know how we will be judged.
The directions provided in the Bible are simple. If you sin, repent.
God loves us, but that didn't stop him from flooding us.
God loves us, but he won't stop holocausts, disasters, wars, etc.
God loves us, but that doesn't stop him from condemning us to eternal Hell.
Whether he loves us or not does not affect his Judgement.
The Bible is supposedly the Word of God, and it's stated in the Bible that any man who lies with another man is killed.
Just get rid of religion and we have a perfect society.
Sometimes we have to ask ourselves, what would Jesus do? (Cliche I know, but true none the less.)
In John 8:1-11 we have Jesus faced with a similar dilemma-- he is presented with a woman who had committed an offense punishable by death. Yet, the woman from the encounter survives. How could this happen?
The Greek word for “condemn†is a strong one, katakrino (the prefix kata strengthens the root form). It suggests handing down a judgment, passing sentence. The Lord was informing the woman that she was not judicially sentenced. As Bloomfield observed, Jesus was simply making “a declaration that, since his kingdom was not of this world, so he would not assume the office of a temporal magistracy†(1837, 376). He was not sanctioning adultery, nor minimizing the lady’s wickedness—quite the contrary. Christ was commenting upon the legal aspect of the situation. With the accusers gone, there was no case left! The witnesses were required to throw the first stones (Deuteronomy 17:7); without them the matter could proceed no further.
Even a cursory reading of the text reveals that the Lord did not condone the woman’s sin. In fact, he said: “Go on your way; and sin no more.†The verb (“sinâ€) is a present tense form in the imperative (command) mood. The idea conveyed is: “Stop this life of sin.†Or, as William F. Beck rendered it: “Go, from now on don’t sin anymore†(1963, 181). Christ unequivocally indicated that what the woman did was sin.
The Bible is the Word of Man.
If the Bible is not the Word of God, divinely inspired by God, then there is no difference between the Bible and any other book. If the Bible is not the Word of God, its origin is earthly, not divine. And if this is so, then Christians have, as their foundation, the feeble words of fallible men. The Scriptures claim to be "able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus" (2 Tim. 3:15); yet, if they are not the words of God, but merely the words of weak, sinful men, then how can they make anyone wise unto salvation? How can anyone be certain they are trustworthy?
I highly doubt that getting rid of religion will somehow miraculously cause a society to be perfect. (seewhatididthar?)
Yes lol
There is no separation from religion from the scores of men. Religion is a tool through which humans find meaning. Even atheists are religious.
Also, what do you mean by perfect, and would you instill your version of perfectness over another's? Perfect is an ugly word because it implies imperfectness and wrongness.
We can hypothesise how Hitler will be judged if he found the cure to AIDS and potentially saving millions of lives as much as we want and it won't make a difference. We don't know how we will be judged.
The directions provided in the Bible are simple. If you sin, repent.
I'm not sure if any of those words are yours or if they are all just cut and paste. Think for a moment. He knows she is a sinner, the accusers are there, and the law is clear. Why did Jesus intervene?
That being said on perspective, I agree that we don't know how this homosexual Christian genius will be judged, as in, judged by God's decision on the person's afterlife. However, should that mean Christians (who are humans) should judge the person on what they consider is wrong (which is the homosexual part)? Judge the person on what they consider is right (which is finding the cure to AIDS)? Is there a rule to overlook what is right or wrong with a person when judging them?
Do not judge others, and you will not be judged. For you will be treated as you treat others. The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged."
None of those words are mine, they're copy and pasted. That does not change the validity of the argument, so I don't see why you're pointing that out.
It seems to me as if you haven't even bothered reading the quote.
If you read the quote, you would see why Jesus did not pass judgement on the woman right then and there. It is not his place to do so.
The quote only applies to the end of the encounter. At the beginning of the encounter, Jesus made a choice to intervene. Why? He could have said, "You have your witnesses, you know the law, have at it."
He did not intervene. The teachers of the law asked him what should be done to the woman. Jesus simply told them to do what was stated in Deuteronomy 17:7.
"The hands of the witnesses must be the first in putting that person to death"
Christians should not judge at all, but that does not mean they should allow people to continue going down the wrong path, while knowing that it's wrong.
God judges us on everything according to Ecclesiastes 12, and it's never mentioned that doing good deeds will offset doing bad ones.