"Dont ask dont tell."

• Time wrote on 2010-12-18 23:02

  In a historic vote for gay rights, the Senate agreed on Saturday to do away with the military’s 17-year ban on openly gay troops and sent President Barack Obama legislation to overturn the Clinton-era policy known as “don’t ask, don’t tell.”
  
  bama was expected to sign the bill into law next week, although changes to military policy probably wouldn’t take effect for at least several months. Under the bill, the president and his top military advisers must first certify that lifting the ban won’t hurt troops’ ability to fight. After that, the military would undergo a 60-day wait period.
  Repeal would mean that, for the first time in American history, gays would be openly accepted by the armed forces and could acknowledge their sexual orientation without fear of being kicked

  
  
  http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/obama-to-sign-law-ending-military-gay-ban-1.2550525?qr=1
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-12-18 23:03
  This sucks.
  I always assumed claiming to be gay would be the easiest way out of a draft.
• gentrone wrote on 2010-12-18 23:14
  It must be difficult to say you're gay once you're in, though.
• Piko wrote on 2010-12-18 23:21

  Quote from Cucurbita;252474:

  This sucks.
  I always assumed claiming to be gay would be the easiest way out of a draft.

  
  
  Looks like we gotta resort to permanent injuries.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2010-12-18 23:23
  I for one want this undone.
  
  If America ever gets in a large scale war and starts drafting, I'm going to become gay and stay home.
  
  
  

  Quote from Pikablu;252484:

  Looks like we gotta resort to permanent injuries.

  
  
  They take that now. You're just not directly in the front or anything.
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-12-18 23:27
  Hahaha.
  
  BUT DADT REPEAL MOTHA****AAAAAAAAAAAAAS!!!!
  
  YEAH!!!!!!
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-12-18 23:38
  I guess that is good news for those soldiers that are harassed or even raped, and can't report for fear of other people claiming that person is a homosexual regardless of the fact he/she actually is one or not.
• Sleeperdial wrote on 2010-12-19 00:14
  The only real problem I see with it, is that most gay people are gay for the smex. Huge distraction on the battle field. Heck, Gays period are going to result in less cooperation and more disdain in general.
• Lan wrote on 2010-12-19 00:28
  So...is this going to result in separate sleeping quarters?
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-12-19 00:28

  Quote from Sleeperdial;252552:

  The only real problem I see with it, is that most gay people are gay for the smex. Huge distraction on the battle field. Heck, Gays period are going to result in less cooperation and more disdain in general.

  
  
  Are you serious?
  
  This is completely untrue.
  
  Gay teachers aren't gay for the smex. Gay politicians aren't gay for the smex. When they get into a field, it's because they want to work in that field. It's not because they want to flirt with everyone of the same sex or have sex with them.
• Sleeperdial wrote on 2010-12-19 00:32
  Sorry, I wasn't clear. Gays period are going to result in less cooperation and more disdain in general in the army. People will look down on them. I see it everywhere. The army is no different. Hence, their fellow troops will look with disdain and not trust them as much ergo a deficiency in a battle situation.
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-12-19 00:33

  Quote from Sleeperdial;252569:

  Sorry, I wasn't clear. Gays period are going to result in less cooperation and more disdain in general in the army. People will look down on them. I see it everywhere. The army is no different. Hence, their fellow troops will look with disdain and not trust them as much ergo a deficiency in a battle situation.

  
  
  I doubt that in the middle of a battlefield you will worry at all about someone's sexuality or who they sleep with.
• Sleeperdial wrote on 2010-12-19 00:36
  You'd be surprised how low people will go.
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-12-19 00:37

  Quote from Sleeperdial;252572:

  You'd be surprised how low people will go.

  
  
  I doubt that people will be completely open about their personal lives post-DADT-repeal anyway.
  
  No one should.
  
  The point is that no one should get kicked out because you found out that person was gay.
• Sleeperdial wrote on 2010-12-19 00:44
  I agree, I'm not entirely sure why this wasn't done before. I doubt any problems would be large enough to prevent senate from doing this a lone time ago. Those were the only problems I see with it and to be honest I really don't see how it matters weather or not gays are in the army. Personally I have respect for anyone that serves our nation. I was just explaining the other side of the vote. I doubt any problems would be large enough to prevent senate from doing this a lone time ago.