Weed

• Akemii wrote on 2011-01-05 16:35
  I don't care about weed, and if my friends wanna do it sure. But if all my friends want to do in their spare time is look for weed to smoke, or other drug-related shenanigans, it pisses me off. Especially when they ditch me to go somewhere where their other potsmoking friends are :/
• Mama wrote on 2011-01-05 21:05

  Quote from kingofrunes;277322:

  I'm against Weed.
  
  It's an addictive drug that causes harmful effects.
  
  Honestly though, I'm also against Alcohol due to events in my childhood with alcoholic parents.
  
  But anyways, that's just my opinion.

  
  
  lol...
  
  in my neuropsych class, they taught us about the effects of drugs. not only is weed not addictive, the worst withdrawal effect studied off of some people who did it all day every day for decades was simply a runny nose. However.. some people get extremely anxious when doing weed, so that would be the worst thing. There have been no deaths ever recorded from marijuana overdose. this is probably because after like a couple.. theyd forget why they were smoking so many in the first place, ahaha.
  
  their brain is also not adversely affected at all. I'd probably go as far as to say it's the least harmful drug. additionally, if you do weed at drive, you'll more likely get pulled over for driving at 5 MPH on the highway. There's some impaired short term memory, time distortion.. but it's all temporary, and does no neurological damage, unlike many less stigmatized drugs.
  
  Alcohol on the other hand, is the worst, worst drug, in the history of all drugs, and causes the most problems than any other drug in society combined, where it is legal. It literally accounts for 20~30% of suicides (depression premorbid, usually with barbiturates), is involved of up to 50-70% of homicides, 50% of driving deaths, not to mention alcoholics take up 20~40% of the beds in a mental ward. It's really depressing. The prohibiton of alcohol turned back all those statistics for about 10 years, but then people just started doing it hidden from the eyes of the law and the crime rates spiked dramatically again to normal levels, where they lifted the prohibition. It's really a battle you can't win. The main problem was that people making alcohol on their own was that it wasnt controlled, so people were accidentally making methyl alcohol instead of ethyl, which caused permanent blindness.
  
  the good news is, a single glass of alcohol actually is a stimulant, and makes you drive better. The problem is, no one ever stops at one glass. alcohol is a depressant after all. (it works through lifting inhibitions, inhibiting even inhibitory centres of the brain, which is why people feel more social, which is always fun. just gota moderate.)
  
  I'd argue strongly towards legalizing marijuana. Legalized drugs are monitored and quality checked, and this is a huge deal because most illegal drugs don't just contain what you want, but carcinogens, toxins, even other drugs, which will cause deaths. this is more of a problem for stuff like cocaine, though. And for something so harmless as marijuana, why should that be illegal when alcohol is not?
  
  long story short, moderation, once again, is the best thing in the world!
• Phunkie wrote on 2011-01-05 21:08
  What if someone said they wanted to try out cocaine just to see what it was like?
  
  Not that I do, but I just feel like once you start trying things, you just become really curious. And one doesn't ever wanna go down that path.
• Mama wrote on 2011-01-05 21:19

  Quote from Phunkie;277496:

  What if someone said they wanted to try out cocaine just to see what it was like?
  
  Not that I do, but I just feel like once you start trying things, you just become really curious. And one doesn't ever wanna go down that path.

  
  
  you can't stop people from being curious, and drugs are readily available. you can just educate them about the adverse effects and hope they make a good decision.
• Lan wrote on 2011-01-05 21:26
  One day I found a bag of weed in my pocket ._.
  
  Anyway I have never done it nor do I ever plan to, I'm to easily addicted to things.
• Mama wrote on 2011-01-05 21:29

  Quote from Lan;277502:

  One day I found a bag of weed in my pocket ._.
  
  Anyway I have never done it nor do I ever plan to, I'm to easily addicted to things.

  
  
  im sure you can get psychologically addicted to it, in a similar way you might be addicted to playing with your pet dog.
  that's kind of redundant tho P:
• Roy Mustang wrote on 2011-01-05 21:30
  I just have a huge disdain for drugs in general. Any evidence that is provided to me I ignore and keep to this mindset.
  
  If it was legal from the get go, I wouldn't have this mindset. However, once I get into a particular mindset, I get frozen at that point.
  
  Me and change, don't get along with political views.
• Lan wrote on 2011-01-05 21:32

  Quote from Mama;277504:

  im sure you can get psychologically addicted to it, in a similar way you might be addicted to playing with your pet dog.
  that's kind of redundant tho P:

  
  
  There are things I do that I can't stop doing ._.
• Mama wrote on 2011-01-05 21:38

  Quote from kingofrunes;277506:

  I just have a huge disdain for drugs in general. Any evidence that is provided to me I ignore and keep to this mindset.
  
  If it was legal from the get go, I wouldn't have this mindset. However, once I get into a particular mindset, I get frozen at that point.
  
  Me and change, don't get along with political views.

  
  
  it's true that we're all better off with doing no drugs at all.
  
  but, unfortunately, we do live in reality, and it's always better to know both sides.
  
  LSD was also illegal. but, they learned that small quantities helped schizophrenic patients. (still illegal, but at least they learned to modify it)
  it was illegal to be homosexual at first as well. Not a drug, but just saying how legality tends to mean little until they do the actual research.
• Phunkie wrote on 2011-01-05 21:40

  Quote from Mama;277498:

  you can't stop people from being curious, and drugs are readily available. you can just educate them about the adverse effects and hope they make a good decision.

  
  
  Yeah, that's true.
  
  You can be curious about many things. I mean, I'm curious about what it feels like to shoot myself in the head, but doing so would be really stupid, no matter how curious I am.
• Mama wrote on 2011-01-05 21:51

  Quote from Phunkie;277514:

  Yeah, that's true.
  
  You can be curious about many things. I mean, I'm curious about what it feels like to shoot myself in the head, but doing so would be really stupid, no matter how curious I am.

  
  
  yups, that is true. most people judge the pros vs the cons before doing anything illegal, and that would be only cons as i would see, unless you had depression and had no will to live anymore. I wish no one felt that way actually Q_Q
  
  learning is also a big part. you touch the stove, get burned, dont do it again, usually. the problem with addictive drugs is that, well, its addictive. At least weed isn't. ignorance about whats dangerously addictive and deadly side effects is a large reason why people smoke etc..
  
  for example smoking is a norm where I come from. they just didn't know it was bad for you, and even telling them now will brush it off and keep smoking anyways.. especially have grandparents who smoked often and lived to 90s but died of a stroke, is reason enough to say smoking isn't that bad for u.
• Phunkie wrote on 2011-01-05 21:54

  Quote from Mama;277525:

  yups, that is true. most people judge the pros vs the cons before doing anything illegal, and that would be only cons as i would see, unless you had depression and had no will to live anymore. I wish no one felt that way actually Q_Q
  
  learning is also a big part. you touch the stove, get burned, dont do it again, usually. the problem with addictive drugs is that, well, its addictive. At least weed isn't. ignorance about whats dangerously addictive and deadly side effects is a large reason why people smoke etc..
  
  for example smoking is a norm where I come from. they just didn't know it was bad for you, and even telling them now will brush it off and keep smoking anyways.. especially have grandparents who smoked often and lived to 90s but died of a stroke, is reason enough to say smoking isn't that bad for u.

  
  
  Is it worth doing weed, even though it's illegal?
  
  I just can't get past the illegal part. Maybe if it wasn't, I'd be more open-minded.
  
  But I mean, Don't Ask, Don't Tell was a law and I never agreed with it. Coming out in the Army was illegal until recently.
  
  It's a little hypocritical on my part. I dunno why I'm so scared of it.
• Mama wrote on 2011-01-05 22:04

  Quote from Phunkie;277529:

  Is it worth doing weed, even though it's illegal?
  
  I just can't get past the illegal part. Maybe if it wasn't, I'd be more open-minded.
  
  But I mean, Don't Ask, Don't Tell was a law and I never agreed with it. Coming out in the Army was illegal until recently.
  
  It's a little hypocritical on my part. I dunno why I'm so scared of it.

  
  
  legality is a big issue for your health, as i mentioned before. you take a risk when you take illegal drugs because there could be something lethal in it, as minute a chance that it is.
  
  i don't think its worth trying, because I know i wont ever do marijuana. It's more of a recreational activity that people do when they're bored and have nothing better to do. I wouldn't take any risk.
  
  I know psychadelics like mescaline, magic mushrooms (psilocybin), and LSD (all not addictive, no withdrawal or long term side effects) causes hallucinations that people claim expands your consciousness and makes you happier. (that would be the serotonin..)
  
  I know a friend of mine who tried LSD and claimed it broadened their view and made them a better person. I have no qualm with psychadelics either if done only once since tolerance is very quick.. like 4 days..
  
  i'd skip all those steps and just strive to be a good person on their own, but like i said before its really hard to stop ppl from being curious.
• Devoth wrote on 2011-01-05 22:35

  Quote from Phunkie;277529:

  Is it worth doing weed, even though it's illegal?
  
  I just can't get past the illegal part. Maybe if it wasn't, I'd be more open-minded.
  
  But I mean, Don't Ask, Don't Tell was a law and I never agreed with it. Coming out in the Army was illegal until recently.
  
  It's a little hypocritical on my part. I dunno why I'm so scared of it.

  
  
  I've smoked pot, tried cigarettes (and hated them), and drank, but I would never say that any of them are 'worth trying'. Pot can be fun, but eh.. There are far better ways to entertain yourself, and the fact that it's illegal is just more of a reason as to why you should avoid it. As for your earlier post about curiosity.. Well, if someone wants to try out cocaine, which, unlike pot, is WIDELY accepted as a very hard drug, then they're free to do so. And then when they get hooked on it, they can enjoy their life of addiction. Curiosity is a great thing, but a lot of people don't have the greatest self control. It's always good to do research beforehand. You're a smart guy for being so cautious.
• gentrone wrote on 2011-01-05 23:21

  Quote from Devoth;277563:

  I've smoked pot, tried cigarettes (and hated them), and drank, but I would never say that any of them are 'worth trying'. Pot can be fun, but eh.. There are far better ways to entertain yourself, and the fact that it's illegal is just more of a reason as to why you should avoid it. As for your earlier post about curiosity.. Well, if someone wants to try out cocaine, which, unlike pot, is WIDELY accepted as a very hard drug, then they're free to do so. And then when they get hooked on it, they can enjoy their life of addiction. Curiosity is a great thing, but a lot of people don't have the greatest self control. It's always good to do research beforehand. You're a smart guy for being so cautious.

  
  
  This.
  
  Cocaine is a different lvl man. It's like trying to enchant an Abysmal pot.