Guide to Weapon artisan Upgrades

• Aubog007 wrote on 2011-01-14 03:22
  Already had a slew of battle sword manuals and swords themselves saved up for when i actually got wyllow...
• Archibald wrote on 2011-01-14 03:25

  Quote from Transcendence;289676:

  Hold on a second, how did you get the damage boost from 75 to 124 max damage for Battle Swords?
  
  The Artisan upgrade (~+70 strength=+28 max damage) is only a +8 max damage over the best 5th upgrade (+20 max damage)?

  
  
  I was doing it as duel wield.
  
  +140 str = +56 max.
  
  Best 1 hand plus ego would probrably be War Swords until G14 when you can do S upgrades on Battleswords
• M wrote on 2011-01-14 03:30

  Quote from Transcendence;289676:

  Hold on a second, how did you get the damage boost from 75 to 124 max damage for Battle Swords?
  
  The Artisan upgrade (~+70 strength=+28 max damage) is only a +8 max damage over the best 5th upgrade (+20 max damage)?

  
  
  because strength is added directly to your character, so you get +140 str, not 70 (assuming dual perfect rolls) which means you get +56 damage. Let's assume 55 damage before 5th upgrade. Add 56 (from 140 str). That's 111. Now add S+6 upgrade of +31 which is 142. Now add in enchants. Boom :) Easily get 162 max.
  
  That's probably where the jump is coming from, although I'm not sure. Maybe one of our math is wrong?
  
  Edit: Oh lol slow posting :s
  
  Although I think your math is wrong. How is it 49 max increase from before and after? It should be 36
  
  I guess I'll had a little more math so this post is more meaningful:
  
  For WM and smash, the damage is figured by adding the two weapon damages together right? And then adding base damage?
  
  So if you had, for example, two of these battle swords (unenchanted) with 86 actual max (with S+6) +70 str each. That's 86+86+56(from 140 str) = 228.
  
  Then had two war swords with perfect artisan (110 max, 80+30 from perfect roll). That's 110 + 110 = 220.
  
  Then consider that single wielded battle swords are 86+56= 142 vs the war swords 110... these swords are better in every field.
  
  The only drawbacks being the 1-70 range vs 0-30. The +6 S upgrade can blow up the weapon. A battle sword with perfect rolls getting +6 are probably over 4x harder than getting a war sword to 110.
  
  In conclusion, battle swords will be the ultimate human endgame weapons of G14 (besides 1h egoes). Hopefully, maybe, that clears some things up for someone
• Herro wrote on 2011-01-14 03:47
  I thought Leather Long Bows got a max of +70 luck.
• Transcendence wrote on 2011-01-14 04:14
  Ohhhh. I get it. The +140 strength bonus applies every single time you swing a battle sword (if dual wielded). Thus, 142 weapon damage per swing.
  
  Another question, do you think Special upgrades will be available for War Swords? And while you're at it, is there any information about special upgrades for Iron Maces? xD
• gentrone wrote on 2011-01-14 04:14
  What about magic weapons... (wands)?
  
  ):
• M wrote on 2011-01-14 04:34

  Quote from Moppy;289222:

  Dragon Tooth FTW!

  
  
  Nom nom 264 max Necromancer Croc Dragon Tooth pls
  
  

  Quote from Transcendence;289803:

  
  Another question, do you think Special upgrades will be available for War Swords?

  
  
  Nope. Not as of g14
• Phanterz wrote on 2011-01-14 05:40
  Battle swords' max damage looks like a mistake -_-
  on devcat's part.
• M wrote on 2011-01-14 18:58
  It's not like WTFHAX or anything, it's not easily obtainable by any means lol. In fact I don't doubt they did it on purpose to make people pay out the butt for artisan reset pots w/NX
• Herro wrote on 2011-01-14 20:01
  honestly if you got a bow, it's kinda easy....for wands its easy as well. sword types, blunts, armors, clothing, and shields not too easy.
• Craddle wrote on 2011-01-15 00:59
  Semi off topic here, but does anyone know the min~max roll for heavy armor artisan upgrade?
• M wrote on 2011-01-15 01:16
  I was told the following:
  1-6 def
  5-10 will
  
  vs
  4 def of normal upgrade
• Craddle wrote on 2011-01-15 01:19

  Quote from Maia;290682:

  I was told the following:
  1-6 def
  5-10 will
  
  vs
  4 def of normal upgrade

  
  
  Umm... On Nexon Forums I got a reply as:
  
  

  +2~6 def +1~2 prot and some HP

  
  
  Can anyone confirm or deny either of these?
• Aubog007 wrote on 2011-01-15 01:28

  Quote from Herro;290314:

  honestly if you got a bow, it's kinda easy....for wands its easy as well. sword types, blunts, armors, clothing, and shields not too easy.

  
  
  Remember. Prof increase for g13!
• Majikaru wrote on 2011-01-15 02:22

  Quote from Craddle;290684:

  Umm... On Nexon Forums I got a reply as:
  
  
  
  Can anyone confirm or deny either of these?

  
  
  I walked past someone wearing an artisan upgraded valencia with a +2 protection roll, so I guess it'd be the one with protection?