MABINATION SMALL QUESTIONS THREAD

• Esileruf wrote on 2015-09-07 02:51

  Quote from Fyois;1285925:

  So I'm having an issue with getting drops from the Shyllien Preserve. Basically when I show up there, the stuff drops really quickly (rabbit feet, plant parts, etc) but after a few minutes it just stops. I'm told this has something to do with anti camping. I went to another area and killed some things and came back, but the parts still won't drop. I'm trying to Master Ecology and these animals are being very uncooperative. Is there any way to fix this quickly?

  
  
  Yep, Animal drops stopping after anywhere from 40~60 is the camping penalty. I was told a while back that having a camp kit and entering+exiting will refresh the penalty, but I've never had time to test it.
• Rynn wrote on 2015-09-07 02:57
  If you kill enough mobs you may be unable to get any more drops for nearly a day no matter what you do.
  
  The solution is to p2w (aka buy premium) and you'll immediately start receiving drops again.
• Intimacy wrote on 2015-09-07 03:23
  Two questions Since ranking up talents gives you stupid amounts of ap, is there any way to really abuse this? rank up things that require 1 ap to get a free 80 lol
  
  And whats the rhyme or reason to when they give you the giant boosts to ap?
• Esileruf wrote on 2015-09-07 03:49

  Quote from Intimacy;1285933:

  Two questions Since ranking up talents gives you stupid amounts of ap, is there any way to really abuse this? rank up things that require 1 ap to get a free 80 lol
  
  And whats the rhyme or reason to when they give you the giant boosts to ap?

  
  
  Rank up the cheap skillsets for free, Rankup, reset, etc.
  Also, it is 2/5/8/11 or Novice(Immediately)/Naive(Bronze end), Advanced(Midway), Expert(Gold) for 20/30/40/80. 170 total.
  
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  Offhandedly, for the rangedgods on mabinationofnerds, whats the standard damage you have? Curious as I'm doing calcs to see if I can at least justify blading as an elf ever.
• Rynn wrote on 2015-09-07 03:58
  Bow character screen damage is around the same as lance character screen damage with 1500 stats and equivalent enchants/reforges.
  
  Difference is mainly the 9 lv of pierce vs 2 lv and 15% raw dmg. Also, dex cater is a pain compared to just buying hot chocolate and if you blade without cater the difference will be even more pronounced. You'll probably be ok though, more so with the g20 armor. Even if you're not top 2 in the lineup sometimes the last leg will get luckier with RNG and seal the deal.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-09-07 03:58

  Quote from Intimacy;1285933:

  Two questions Since ranking up talents gives you stupid amounts of ap, is there any way to really abuse this? rank up things that require 1 ap to get a free 80 lol

  
  
  You have Production Mastery, which costs 67 AP in total and can at least reach you level 5 in Smithing, Tailoring, Medicine, and Carpentry, I think. But that's as far as "really really cheap" will go.
  
  The four Life talents above probably use the least amount of AP to get them to level 11; they use two (Medicine, Carpentry), three (Tailoring) or four (Smithing) skills plus Production Mastery in their skillsets, and each skill in them costs roughly ~100 AP. Cooking probably comes close (with all its gathering skills using around 50, and Wine Making uses nearly 40), but everything else goes from hundreds (Merchant/Adventurer) to thousands (all combat-based talents and Transmutation).
  
  

  And whats the rhyme or reason to when they give you the giant boosts to ap?

  
  
  You just get a Journal notice and AP notice, that's it, not really anything amazing.
• Intimacy wrote on 2015-09-07 03:59

  Quote from Esileruf;1285935:

  Rank up the cheap skillsets for free, Rankup, reset, etc.
  Also, it is 2/5/8/11 or Novice(Immediately)/Naive(Bronze end), Advanced(Midway), Expert(Gold) for 20/30/40/80. 170 total.
  
  _______________________
  
  Offhandedly, for the rangedgods on mabinationofnerds, whats the standard damage you have? Curious as I'm doing calcs to see if I can at least justify blading as an elf ever.

  
  
  
  Okay so if i reset all my skills, rank up random shit to expert then derank i can get some nice ap from this?
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-09-07 04:11

  Quote from Esileruf;1285935:

  
  Offhandedly, for the rangedgods on mabinationofnerds, whats the standard damage you have? Curious as I'm doing calcs to see if I can at least justify blading as an elf ever.

  
  
  Not sure if I should classify as one of "the rangedgods on mabinationofnerds"... with Archer/Cul Artist/Starlet talent at 100/30, I get 820-30 max and if I bother to go 200/50, I'd sit at close to 900 max, and with catering at 1.5k dex, I assume I sit at mid-high 900s max. This is done with 51 max Bhafel, Lion Hunter's Fancy. For Elves, I'd think the CRC + Special bolts give the best damage possible, and with max damage reforges (which you should have for blade anyway), I think 1k max isn't a far off answer. Note that I don't have alban max damage totem yet either, so I think you have lots of room to work with. Granted, Humans and Giants will always be better at blading because Lances, but Elves should be able to blade pretty decently as well.
• Esileruf wrote on 2015-09-07 04:16

  Quote from Rynn;1285936:

  Bow character screen damage is around the same as lance character screen damage with 1500 stats and equivalent enchants/reforges.
  
  Difference is mainly the 9 lv of pierce vs 2 lv and 15% raw dmg. Also, dex cater is a pain compared to just buying hot chocolate and if you blade without cater the difference will be even more pronounced. You'll probably be ok though, more so with the g20 armor. Even if you're not top 2 in the lineup sometimes the last leg will get luckier with RNG and seal the deal.

  
  
  Yeah, though I'm probably going to use a CRX rather than a fhalafel. Dex caters aren't gonna be too much of an issue, I'm used to custom making caters anyways. Need to mainly find out how +10% damage fares different from 25 prot shear, and if 15% damage increase does better against 35 under prot shear. But mainly wondering as I might end up seeing how using blade over shield in nongurgle content works out.
  
  and I refuse to do support shot. Like hell if I'm wasting 10m+ on two support shot 3 accs, esp when for some reason there's twenty dorks with them in the raid team. Wonder where they came from.
  
  

  Quote from ironwoman;1285940:

  Not sure if I should classify as one of "the rangedgods on mabinationofnerds"... with Archer/Cul Artist/Starlet talent at 100/30, I get 820-30 max and if I bother to go 200/50, I'd sit at close to 900 max, and with catering at 1.5k dex, I assume I sit at mid-high 900s max. This is done with 51 max Bhafel, Lion Hunter's Fancy. For Elves, I'd think the CRC + Special bolts give the best damage possible, and with max damage reforges (which you should have for blade anyway), I think 1k max isn't a far off answer. Note that I don't have alban max damage totem yet either, so I think you have lots of room to work with. Granted, Humans and Giants will always be better at blading because Lances, but Elves should be able to blade pretty decently as well.

  
  
  Ah, Thanks. Was really needing to know for sure if 1k was breakable, wasn't coming close to it in theoretical, even stuffing in reforges. That being said, the potential to abuse reforges closes the max damage gap further, since Ranged Attack Damage Reforge on shoes, much to my surprise, isn't as worthless as I thought.
• Rynn wrote on 2015-09-07 04:28
  Like why buy support shot accs tho? they literally just modify the actual SUPPORT SHOT damage and not the following melee dmg... pls tell me no one you know actually paid 10m for that.
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-09-07 04:44
  Sadly a lot of people actually buy the accs. I have never heard of a SS 3 accessory getting sold for that much though.
  
  It's kind of like Crash Shot Projectile damage bows and accs, where some people think it affects the fragments too...
• Roflorz wrote on 2015-09-07 04:49

  Quote from Intimacy;1285938:

  Okay so if i reset all my skills, rank up random shit to expert then derank i can get some nice ap from this?

  
  
  yes.
• Twin wrote on 2015-09-07 10:27
  Does anyone know the exact percent Royal Celtic Knight Sword boost Bash by?
• Xenmas wrote on 2015-09-07 15:19

  Quote from Twin;1285963:

  Does anyone know the exact percent Royal Celtic Knight Sword boost Bash by?

  
  
  IIRC, its 15%.
  
  Question:
  
  I know Saga 2 Episode 10 made economy to inflate like a rocket, but it was nerfed few months ago so i thought everything will "mantain" its current price until the quitters and the heavy spenders burn some cash so the majority of the price of items would deflate little by little. But what ive seen is that end-game and high mid-game gears are the same or even more expensive than 4-6 months ago, lots of items go for 100m+. So my actual question, is there a new gold farming method or methods as efficient as Saga2E10 in th past for this? If so which ones?
  
  Thanks in advance.
• Rynn wrote on 2015-09-07 15:34

  Quote from Twin;1285963:

  Does anyone know the exact percent Royal Celtic Knight Sword boost Bash by?

  
  
  10%
  
  

  Quote from Xenmas;1285967:

  
  I know Saga 2 Episode 10 made economy to inflate like a rocket, but it was nerfed few months ago so i thought everything will "mantain" its current price until the quitters and the heavy spenders burn some cash so the majority of the price of items would deflate little by little. But what ive seen is that end-game and high mid-game gears are the same or even more expensive than 4-6 months ago, lots of items go for 100m+. So my actual question, is there a new gold farming method or methods as efficient as Saga2E10 in th past for this? If so which ones?

  
  
  There was another method that was even more profitable than saga 2-6 via glitched mobs in saga 1-4, and it became mainstream thanks to catchapon event so the economy only got more inflated than ever.
  
  It was only patched like a month or so ago, so it will take even more time for things to deflate... and who knows, by then some other way will come out to light.