Imagine if DevCat took out windmill from the game

• Juno wrote on 2010-04-14 15:02
  I rarely use it as is, smash is kind of my answer to everything. I'd stock a few more hp pots since I couldn't worm my way out of multiaggro as smoothly but I wouldn't lose any sleep on it.
• Zid wrote on 2010-04-14 15:24
  I'd actually consider a Mage/Alchemist hybrid build, seriously.
  
  And just spam Spark/Ice Spear/Blaze.
  
  I'd see more Defense/Counterattack use.
  
  If Ranged was super nerfed when WM is gone, I'd actually be happier, lol.
• MrShandavio wrote on 2010-04-14 15:51
  I don't even know if I have WM on my giant. And I've got trans.
• Kurezan wrote on 2010-04-14 17:51
  I'd invest into some hardcore defense.
• Osayidan wrote on 2010-04-14 18:02
  If they remove WM, the servers go offline. The power of the spinning motion is what powers mabinogi servers, kinda like hamsters in a wheel.
• starpaw7 wrote on 2010-04-14 18:44
  [FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="2"]If I got all my AP back I'd cry in happiness and rank up whatever the *** I want :blood:[/SIZE][/FONT]
• Tedio wrote on 2010-04-14 19:22
  I would shed a man-tear.
  
  Then just abuse giants faster loading smash...
• Moppy wrote on 2010-04-14 20:28
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  I can't imagine it. SO SCARY! But in all seriousness, I'd probably stop using my giant and become a human. Without Windmill to handle multi aggro, I'd have to be more versatile.
• Ninjam wrote on 2010-04-14 20:35
  I would destroy something (or someone, but thats not the point).
• Nevermind wrote on 2010-04-14 20:43
  Would most likely move to AR/Protective Wall abuse, with Golem Summoning in case I need the melee.
  
  Essentially I'd remake into an Elf..
• Sleet wrote on 2010-04-14 21:23

  Quote from Crimmy;2541:

  Hay. Just because we don't have decent Int or a decent range skill doesn't mean we depend solely on WM. I wasn't even able to use WM decently until R9 because of the glitch in giant's WM range.
  
  If WM were removed, I'd be disappointed, but I'd still play. Smash + charge + smash is good tact more giants should use and I'd rely on it more. Maybe we could figure out something with stomp when it becomes uncapped and y'know, usable.
  
  Then there's Wind Guard. That could sorta be a WM replacement.. sort of.

  
  
  I dare you to try, TRY soloing shadow wiz HM without windmill. It's literally impossible.
  Any character can have decent int, and to be honest I think I've dabbled in many skills giants wouldn't even touch. (I have over 350 base int).
  
  That charge combo only works for 1 v 1, which doesn't apply to most of the dungeons and shadow missions of higher difficult, not to mention one PD could entirely mess up your combo chain.
  
  Only reason I can pull through is windmill.
  
  I don't know if I could even solo shining karu without windmill without horribly abusing Life Drain.
• Majikaru wrote on 2010-04-14 22:17
  Sounds terrible. I couldn't do many things without windmill...
  So I'd probably rank blaze.
• Rei wrote on 2010-04-14 22:22
  [FONT="Century Gothic"]Imagine if they actually did take it out. All those months I spent slaving over zombies and such to rank it for squat. I'd probably crawl into a fetal position and cry myself to sleep.
  
  
  But I don't usually depend on it too much, despite it being R1. I like to play it safe, depending on other skills like defense and counter, haha. It wouldn't change my tactics too much....but I'd probably die a lot quicker from multi-aggro....[/FONT]
• Trigger wrote on 2010-04-14 22:32

  Quote from Valencia;2473:

  If they took windmill out of the game I wouldn't have a bunch of people overrating the skill breathing down my neck about it. That skill has killed me more than it has saved me. Nothing special about it. I only use it in the middle of combos, but that only works for crappy the AI most of the time.

  
  
  Your first sentence is true, and there'd be a lot less people going OMG OMG OMG THE ONLY SKILL YOU NEED IS WINDMILL.
  
  The rest is indicative of poor playing and/or poor connection. Windmill is one of the most universally useful skills in the game, and packs a massive punch if you use it properly. If you're dying a lot because of Windmill use, you need more practice or better Internet or both.
• Valencia wrote on 2010-04-14 22:45

  Quote from Trigger;3030:

  Your first sentence is true, and there'd be a lot less people going OMG OMG OMG THE ONLY SKILL YOU NEED IS WINDMILL.
  
  The rest is indicative of poor playing and/or poor connection. Windmill is one of the most universally useful skills in the game, and packs a massive punch if you use it properly. If you're dying a lot because of Windmill use, you need more practice or better Internet or both.

  
  
  Not really. Just because I've died from using it does not indicate poor connection or playing. That's just an assumption. I don't need practice. I just find myself using windmill to hit an enemy when they charge (not the skill) me instead of using counter or defense. Most of the time when I click when an enemy is in my range(when they are charging towards me), it completely ignores my command, and in half a second the enemy hits me.
  Edit: So I'm probably just using it wrong.