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  • Arsik wrote on 2012-09-11 13:39
    I love the hypocracy in this thread. We have a good number of users complaining or mentioning of favoritism in the staff, which is true is some aspects. But you, the users, are also very much playing favorites. I'll use myself as an example.

    Last month, as many of you remember, I made a post in reply to Loopulse that was pretty much nothing but me trying to hurt his feelings and make him leave this site. I knew that what I was about to post was wrong, and I knew I would get in trouble for it, but I posted it anyways, and reported my own post, pretty much telling the staff that I just needed to say it to vent or whatever. And when I asked how many other people reported that post, I was told I was the only one to report the post. And yet, even though it was very rule breaking and should have been deleted the second a mod saw it, and given me an infraction for it, I had gotten 8 reps for that one post, just because I, a generally well loved member of this site, bashed a member that very few people here like.

    I guarantee you that if something in that equation changed, for example, I was a new member of the site who just joined to attack Loopulse, or if I as I am now attacked a different member, for example Hanna, for where she was making a new thread in Bean Rua for practically everything that was happening with her life as it was going on, similar to what people have turned Twitter into, the post would have probably seen more than just my report, and I highly doubt I would have gotten any rep from the community. So for people to come here and say that the staff is playing favorites badly, and yet not take into consideration that they themselves play favorites for pretty much the same exact issues, as seen in this thread where people asked why Brad was banned "for no reason", but forgetting that the only other person that has been banned more than he has is Jordy, a person who had a personal grudge with Fal and just took it to other members he didn't like when he was done dealing with Fal.

    So instead of just pushing all the blame for the bad behavior of the community on the staff, you guys should start doing an evaluation of how you guys are as a member of this community before you judge others.
  • Murasaki wrote on 2012-09-11 14:00
    You bring up a good point, Arsik. I didn't even think about the fact that the only person who'd reported that was you.

    There have been times when literally the last was well over a day or two ago,and yet I find people complaining that we didn't do something about x or y thing. If you can come tell us about how we miss something...why didn't you report it yourself? You can't go on thinking that someone else will, because often enough, it won't be reported. "Oh, some one else will do it." Nope, they won't. They'll probably be thinking the exact same thing you are.

    People constantly tell us how we're missing things, and yet, when I ask to be linked to the situation, or have it report it, I'll get a link maybe once. If it was reported, it's definitely getting looked at. No report goes without getting looked at for over 24 hours. If nothing's been done about it, there was no action required, or it's being very heavily discussed, or it wasn't action that was visible. Again, aside from someone getting banned, most infractions don't do anything people would actually notice.
  • Valkyrio wrote on 2012-09-11 16:33
    Quote from Osayidan;949796:
    Keep in mind that mabination has been 16+ for quite some time now, although I haven't really pushed it very much. When we switch to the new forum system however the 16+ aspect will be made much more clear.


    Being 16+ doesn't necessarily mean that you have to allow nudity or inappropriate content. I think that you should really rethink it if you want to allow nudity so long as genitals aren't showing (because going off this thread, it doesn't really look like many people are in agreement with that decision.)
  • Cynic wrote on 2012-09-11 17:49
    Quote from Valkyrio;949858:
    Being 16+ doesn't necessarily mean that you have to allow nudity or inappropriate content. I think that you should really rethink it if you want to allow nudity so long as genitals aren't showing (because going off this thread, it doesn't really look like many people are in agreement with that decision.)


    You'd be surprised. Though in all honesty, I don't see why disallowing it completely when we all know that 16+ is very likely to have some potentially "sexual" (though not overly so) content either way is a better option as opposed to someone simply blocking or disabling sigs/avis if they're browsing Mabination in a place where such content is deemed inappropriate.

    That's like saying "well I don't like pictures of flowers and some places I use the computer at don't like or allow it either, so nobody should be allowed to show pictures of flowers". It forces it to become a group issue when in reality it's just a single issue.
  • Juno wrote on 2012-09-11 17:56
    Quote from Cynic;949871:
    You'd be surprised. Though in all honesty, I don't see why disallowing it completely when we all know that 16+ is very likely to have some potentially "sexual" (though not overly so) content either way is a better option as opposed to someone simply blocking or disabling sigs/avis if they're browsing Mabination in a place where such content is deemed inappropriate.

    That's like saying "well I don't like pictures of flowers and some places I use the computer at don't like or allow it either, so nobody should be allowed to show pictures of flowers". It forces it to become a group issue when in reality it's just a single issue.


    If enough single people in the group have the issue, it becomes a group issue. This thread alone isn't a good enough measure, but it suggests that we have a lot of such-minded singles.
  • Valkyrio wrote on 2012-09-11 18:26
    Quote from Cynic;949871:
    You'd be surprised. Though in all honesty, I don't see why disallowing it completely when we all know that 16+ is very likely to have some potentially "sexual" (though not overly so) content either way is a better option as opposed to someone simply blocking or disabling sigs/avis if they're browsing Mabination in a place where such content is deemed inappropriate.


    We're not talking about one person's opinions, or one subject matter (such as "flowers.") This is actually a much broader issue, one that affects pretty much everyone. Some people aren't okay with nudity, regardless of whether they're at home or not. Others might have to share a computer (I'm sure there's 16 year olds who still have to use their computer in a family/living/shared room.) Saying "oh just block sigs/individual elements" isn't the right way to go about it when it's a group issue, as Juno said. On top of that, nation is primarily a game forum, right? I don't understand why we HAVE to allow nudity simply because the forums themselves are 16+.
  • Murasaki wrote on 2012-09-11 18:46
    Using flowers as a comparison for this doesn't really work because there's no real social stigma against them. No one's going to think something "else" if a person is caught looking at flowers. The real issue comes with the stigma against nudity, whether it's meant to be pornographic or not.